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A spiritual Christian is one who is a temple of God where no sin exists.

(Romans 6: 1-2)What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?



(1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him”



A person who claim to be a Christian and continues to sin is at best a baby Christian.

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”
 

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A spiritual Christian is one who is a temple of God where no sin exists.
(Romans 6: 1-2)What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
(1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him”
A person who claim to be a Christian and continues to sin is at best a baby Christian.
(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”
I believe this to be a fair assessment of what The Lord was saying through His servant Paul.

How many times in John's letters did Jesus say that if we truly loved Him we would follow His Commands.
John 14:15
John 14:21
John 14:23-24
John 15:12-14
 

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A spiritual Christian is one who is a temple of God where no sin exists.

(Romans 6: 1-2)What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?



(1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him”



A person who claim to be a Christian and continues to sin is at best a baby Christian.

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”

Be careful; The Bible says.......
1 John 1:8
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

If you say that you have “no sin”, you are in danger of deceiving yourselve!
 

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Thankful doesn't practice what he preaches. I've caught him in a lie before.

The question is if he actually BELIEVES you must be sinless or not. That's justification by works, my friends- and not the gospel.
If he BELIEVES in salvation by faith alone, then he may yet be saved. However, Paul says you will be cursed by God for preaching a gospel other than the one given.

Last I checked, cursed people are in the same room as Satan, and won't ever see the Kingdom of Heaven.
 

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A spiritual Christian is one who is a temple of God where no sin exists.

(Romans 6: 1-2)What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?



(1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him”



A person who claim to be a Christian and continues to sin is at best a baby Christian.

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”

Be careful; The Bible says.......
1 John 1:8
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

If you say that you have “no sin”, you are in danger of deceiving yourselve!

This is true. All people, no matter who they are (unless it's Jesus, of course), no one is without sin. We cannot be as perfect as Jesus. However, we need to do everything in our power to be as much like Him as we can.

Thankful doesn't practice what he preaches. I've caught him in a lie before.

The question is if he actually BELIEVES you must be sinless or not. That's justification by works, my friends- and not the gospel.
If he BELIEVES in salvation by faith alone, then he may yet be saved. However, Paul says you will be cursed by God for preaching a gospel other than the one given.

Last I checked, cursed people are in the same room as Satan, and won't ever see the Kingdom of Heaven.

We are all saved by asking for forgiveness of our sins, and allowingGod into our hearts. This is true enough. However, as this passage clearly states, faithwithout works is dead.

Bible said:
James 2:14-26

[sup]14[/sup] What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? [sup]15[/sup] If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, [sup]16[/sup]and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,”but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, whatdoes it profit? [sup]17[/sup] Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
[sup]18[/sup] But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your[sup][a][/sup] works, and I will show you my faith by my[sup][b][/sup] works. [sup]19[/sup] You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! [sup]20[/sup] But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[sup][c][/sup] [sup]21[/sup] Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? [sup]22[/sup] Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? [sup]23[/sup] And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[sup][d][/sup] And he was called the friend of God. [sup]24[/sup] You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
[sup]25[/sup] Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
[sup]26[/sup] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

If we have faith, but don't do anything with it, what's the point in our faith at all...? To escape the flames of hell? I'm not saying that people shouldn't want to escape that. However, our purpose should also be bringing others to God. This is what Jesus Himself did, and we're supposed to model ourselves after Him as closely as we can.

For people to be able to perfectly "practice what they preach", they would have to be as perfect as God. Again, no one is perfect; we're all liars, thieves, adulterers, etc., because that is our human nature. HUMAN nature comes easily. Sometimes we say things that we shouldn't or we don't do enough research before stating what we think we know.

But, we have to strive to be Christ-like, even if we're saved, and that, of course, requires works. You can be what you consider a "good person", but if you see someone in need, and don't do something about it, you're in the wrong. This goes both for physical state AND spiritual state. If people are deprived of knowledge they need to strengthen their spiritual state, you help them in whatever way they need to be helped, by speaking God's Word to them, and if they're in need of clothes, food, etc. you're supposed to help them with these things, too. This shows that we truly have God in our lives, and when people see that, they potentially want to seek out the Lord for themselves.
 

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We are all saved by asking for forgiveness of our sins, and allowingGod into our hearts. This is true enough. However, as this passage clearly states, faithwithout works is dead.
Absolutely right- I won't discount that.

But Thankful believes a perfect life is MANDATORY for Heaven.

I don't disagree, we should live the best live we can.


 

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Ok, as long as we're all on the same page about it. :D

Nope, perfect life is impossible; trying our best (through prayer and serving God) is the best a human can do, that's for certain. If we had to be perfect to be saved, we'd all be cast straight into hell.
 

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I used to have some friends that went to a church where the pastor taught the kids they were supposed to be sinless... and I'm not saying being sinless wouldn't be awesome... nor am I condoning sin... but being real... we all fall short...

So anyways I role with them to the guys church and the guy must have assumed I was their friend who didn't know the Lord yet because he pointed at me in front of the whole congregation and started yelling at me, "I know where you've been and what you've been doing" haha... I just started laughing at the guy... afterwards I went up to him and introduced myself and let him know that I was already a believer and that I worked at a church... haha... the sad thing was the guy eventually got rolled for committing adultry and lost his church business and most of my friends who went there ended up really confused and kind of unsure about the Lord because they were all trusting in their own righteousness and that of their pastor instead of the righteousness of the Lord...

I would love nothing more than to be sinless... but I'm not... so all honor and glory to the Lord who is my righteousness... until the morning star rises fully in my heart... can't wait!!!
 

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Be careful; The Bible says.......
1 John 1:8
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

If you say that you have “no sin”, you are in danger of deceiving yourselve!

(1 John 1: 8-10)[sup] “[/sup]If we claim to bewithout sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess oursins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us fromall unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in ourlives.”



You need to see John was saying ifone says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars.



If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they notthen sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless?



John later says:



(1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertainsthis hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law,because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that inHim there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sinshas never seen Him or known Him. My children do notlet anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He isholy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was asinner from the beginning. It was toundo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins:because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begottenby God.”



(1 John 3:8) “Hewho does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinningfrom the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy thedevil's work”



Johntold us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and wereforgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin.



Scripture goes on to say that if aperson who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person.



(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we shoulddeliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice forthem. There is left only the dreadfulprospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyonewho disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of twowitnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son ofGod, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if itwere not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a farseverer punishment. We are all awarewho it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into thehands of the living God.”



(Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into thelight, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit,and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come andyet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed asecond time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of Godand openly mocked Him.”
 

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I used to have some friends that went to a church where the pastor taught the kids they were supposed to be sinless... and I'm not saying being sinless wouldn't be awesome... nor am I condoning sin... but being real... we all fall short...

So anyways I role with them to the guys church and the guy must have assumed I was their friend who didn't know the Lord yet because he pointed at me in front of the whole congregation and started yelling at me, "I know where you've been and what you've been doing" haha... I just started laughing at the guy... afterwards I went up to him and introduced myself and let him know that I was already a believer and that I worked at a church... haha... the sad thing was the guy eventually got rolled for committing adultry and lost his church business and most of my friends who went there ended up really confused and kind of unsure about the Lord because they were all trusting in their own righteousness and that of their pastor instead of the righteousness of the Lord...

I would love nothing more than to be sinless... but I'm not... so all honor and glory to the Lord who is my righteousness... until the morning star rises fully in my heart... can't wait!!!
Excellent post.
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Excellent post.
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That is an old story, told in today’s language. We have a scripture story that tells us about the same thing.



(Acts 5:1-11) “There was another man, however, called Ananias. He and his wife, Sapphira, agreed to sell a property; but with his wife’s connivance he kept back part of the proceeds, and brought the rest and presented it to the apostles. Ananias, Peter said ‘now can Satan have so possessed you that you should lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the money from the land? While you still owned the land, wasn’t it yours to keep, and after you had sold it wasn’t the money yours to do with as you liked? What put this scheme into your mind? It is not to men that you have lied, but to God. When he heard this Ananias fell down dead. This made a profound impression on everyone present. The younger men got up, wrapped the body in a sheet, carried it out and buried it.



About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had taken place. Peter challenged her, ‘Tell me was this the price you sold the land for? ‘Yes,’ she said ‘that was the price.’ Peter then said, ‘So you and your husband have agreed to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test! What made you do it? You hear those footsteps? They have just been to bury your husband; they will carry you out, too.’ Instantly she dropped dead at his feet. When the young men came in they found she was dead, and they carried her out and buried her by the side of her husband. This made a profound impression on the whole Church and on all who heard it.”
 

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Um, that's not about the same thing.

That's, "Let me BS my way into pushing my agenda".
 

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Um, that's not about the same thing.

That's, "Let me BS my way into pushing my agenda".


Any one can make up a story of people who fail God. When sinners want to be thought of as righteous they need to pant everyone else as sinners.



A sinner is a slave of Satan. So a sinner will say and do what ever Satan asks of him or her. Why would any Christian listen to a sinner?
 

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All people sin, Christians and atheists alike.

Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God...

This statement includes everyone; the world as a whole. All people living in it are victims of sin, whether inside Christianity or outside.

1 John 1:8-10 - If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not inus. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us oursins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have notsinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

We're all sinners, and every time we sin, we're to repent of the sin. Pray to God and ask for His forgiveness. Yes, we are then forgiven, but just because we have forgiveness when we ask God for it doesn't actually make the sin RIGHT. It means that Jesus took the sin from us. At no point are we absolute perfect people, because we ended up sinning in the first place.

Acts 3:19 - Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out...
Acts 8:22 - Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lordthat, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you.

We must repent and turn away from sin every time we encounter it. We aren't perfect people, so this is the only thing we can do.
 

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All people sin, Christians and atheists alike.

Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God...

This statement includes everyone; the world as a whole. All people living in it are victims of sin, whether inside Christianity or outside.

1 John 1:8-10 - If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not inus. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us oursins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have notsinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

We're all sinners, and every time we sin, we're to repent of the sin. Pray to God and ask for His forgiveness. Yes, we are then forgiven, but just because we have forgiveness when we ask God for it doesn't actually make the sin RIGHT. It means that Jesus took the sin from us. At no point are we absolute perfect people, because we ended up sinning in the first place.

Acts 3:19 - Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out...
Acts 8:22 - Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lordthat, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you.

We must repent and turn away from sin every time we encounter it. We aren't perfect people, so this is the only thing we can do.




(1 John 3: 3 - 9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray; to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy; to lead a sinful life is to belong to the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”
 

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Reading other translations of the same piece of scripture brings a different light to the subject, however. :)

1 John 3:3-9 (ESV)
3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

1 John 3:3-9 (NASB)
3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 3:3-9 (Common English Bible)
3 And everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself even as he is pure. 4 Every person who practices sin commits an act of rebellion, and sin is rebellion. 5 You know that he appeared to take away sins, and there is no sin in him. 6 Every person who remains in relationship to him does not sin. Any person who sins has not seen him or known him.
7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you. The person who practices righteousness is righteous, in the same way that Jesus is righteous. 8 The person who practices sin belongs to the devil, because the devil has been sinning since the beginning. God’s Son appeared for this purpose: to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those born from God don’t practice sin because God’s DNA remains in them. They can’t sin because they are born from God.

From Merriam Webster -
Definition of PRACTICE
transitive verb
1 a : carry out, apply <practice what you preach> b : to do or perform often, customarily, or habitually <practice politeness> c : to be professionally engaged in <practice medicine>
2 a : to perform or work at repeatedly so as to become proficient <practice the act> b : to train by repeated exercises <practice pupils in penmanship>

All of these reveal that it means those who willingly practice sin are the people who don’t know God. In both instances, whether to practice sin or to practice righteousness, it takes being willing to do one or the other. We are to practice righteousness to come away from sin as best as we possibly can (through prayer, of course :) ), and as I said before, we must repent of all sins that are incurred along the way. :)
 

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A spiritual Christian is one who is a temple of God where no sin exists.

(Romans 6: 1-2)What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

(1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him”

Hi Thankful1!

So..in essence, you are saying that you have never sinned, never been dishonest or said something to someone that you should not have?

The bible says that only Jesus was sinless, that is why he was the ultimate sacrifice for sin on our behalf...salvation is a free gift but sanctification is a process in which all believers are being transformed into the likeness of God with the aide of the Holy Spirit. Even Paul understood this when he said:

Philippians 3
[sup]7[/sup] But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. [sup]8[/sup] What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ [sup]9[/sup] and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. [sup]10[/sup] I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, [sup]11[/sup] and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead. [sup]12[/sup] Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. [sup]13[/sup] Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, [sup]14[/sup] I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.


Blessings!!! :)

 

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Hi Thankful1!

So..in essence, you are saying that you have never sinned, never been dishonest or said something to someone that you should not have?

The bible says that only Jesus was sinless, that is why he was the ultimate sacrifice for sin on our behalf...salvation is a free gift but sanctification is a process in which all believers are being transformed into the likeness of God with the aide of the Holy Spirit. Even Paul understood this when he said:

Philippians 3
[sup]7[/sup] But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. [sup]8[/sup] What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ [sup]9[/sup] and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. [sup]10[/sup] I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, [sup]11[/sup] and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead. [sup]12[/sup] Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. [sup]13[/sup] Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, [sup]14[/sup] I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.


Blessings!!! :)


First of all I did not say that I have never sinned. I will witness that after God made his home in me, and I was made clean, that I have not deliberately committed a sin. That has been over thirty years ago.

Jesus called us to be perfect, and when onehas been taught to not even commit a sin not leading to death, then one will be perfect.


(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”



(1 John 5:17) “Every kind of wrongdoing is sin, but not all sin is deadly.”

Reading other translations of the same piece of scripture brings a different light to the subject, however. :)

1 John 3:3-9 (ESV)
3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

1 John 3:3-9 (NASB)
3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 3:3-9 (Common English Bible)
3 And everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself even as he is pure. 4 Every person who practices sin commits an act of rebellion, and sin is rebellion. 5 You know that he appeared to take away sins, and there is no sin in him. 6 Every person who remains in relationship to him does not sin. Any person who sins has not seen him or known him.
7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you. The person who practices righteousness is righteous, in the same way that Jesus is righteous. 8 The person who practices sin belongs to the devil, because the devil has been sinning since the beginning. God’s Son appeared for this purpose: to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those born from God don’t practice sin because God’s DNA remains in them. They can’t sin because they are born from God.

From Merriam Webster -
Definition of PRACTICE
transitive verb
1 a : carry out, apply <practice what you preach> b : to do or perform often, customarily, or habitually <practice politeness> c : to be professionally engaged in <practice medicine>
2 a : to perform or work at repeatedly so as to become proficient <practice the act> b : to train by repeated exercises <practice pupils in penmanship>

All of these reveal that it means those who willingly practice sin are the people who don’t know God. In both instances, whether to practice sin or to practice righteousness, it takes being willing to do one or the other. We are to practice righteousness to come away from sin as best as we possibly can (through prayer, of course :) ), and as I said before, we must repent of all sins that are incurred along the way. :)

I would like to share some of the tools people use to twist the written Word of God.



The tool often used is the Greek Word.

I believe the Holy Spirit was much involved with thepeople that translated the Greek scripture to the English version. I also believe they understood the Greek aswell or better than the people who try to make people believe the Englishversion is not accurate.



Whata con and an elitist act it is to use a study of a language to try and convinceothers he or she is right because they have some special knowledge of a language.



Thereare any numbers of translations of the bible, and all tend to slant the Word to read such as to verify one theology or another



Hyperboleis also used a lot. Jesus did not mean that it is just an exaggeration. Then people will go on and tell one what he really meant. Tell me how does anyone know unless Jesus told him or her? If Jesus told them he will tell us also right?



Metaphorically Is used much the same way as hyperbole, and the people who use this tool are of course the experts who can tell one just what Jesus meant. Wow they must be really intelligent, like us simple people can’t read,and understand.



Another tool often used is that part ofthe written Word is not talking to us. People don’t like what a letter is saying, so then if it is not speakingto them it can be ignored. They want usto believe that the bible is like our history books.



Separating our spirit from our bodies,as if one is not part of the other. This tool is used to make our actions not accountable. Our spirit don’t sin so only the body is held accountable. What is so unbelievable is many people buy into that garbage.



After all these tools have been exposed as such, then the last tool isto denigrate, defame, malign, and vilify the person who has exposed thetwisting tools.
 

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First of all I did not say that I have never sinned. I will witness that after God made his home in me, and I was made clean, that I have not deliberately committed a sin. That has been over thirty years ago.

Jesus called us to be perfect, and when onehas been taught to not even commit a sin not leading to death, then one will be perfect.


(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”



(1 John 5:17) “Every kind of wrongdoing is sin, but not all sin is deadly.”



I would like to share some of the tools people use to twist the written Word of God.



The tool often used is the Greek Word.

I believe the Holy Spirit was much involved with thepeople that translated the Greek scripture to the English version. I also believe they understood the Greek aswell or better than the people who try to make people believe the Englishversion is not accurate.



Whata con and an elitist act it is to use a study of a language to try and convinceothers he or she is right because they have some special knowledge of a language.



Thereare any numbers of translations of the bible, and all tend to slant the Word to read such as to verify one theology or another



Hyperboleis also used a lot. Jesus did not mean that it is just an exaggeration. Then people will go on and tell one what he really meant. Tell me how does anyone know unless Jesus told him or her? If Jesus told them he will tell us also right?



Metaphorically Is used much the same way as hyperbole, and the people who use this tool are of course the experts who can tell one just what Jesus meant. Wow they must be really intelligent, like us simple people can’t read,and understand.



Another tool often used is that part ofthe written Word is not talking to us. People don’t like what a letter is saying, so then if it is not speakingto them it can be ignored. They want usto believe that the bible is like our history books.



Separating our spirit from our bodies,as if one is not part of the other. This tool is used to make our actions not accountable. Our spirit don’t sin so only the body is held accountable. What is so unbelievable is many people buy into that garbage.



After all these tools have been exposed as such, then the last tool isto denigrate, defame, malign, and vilify the person who has exposed thetwisting tools.

Do you apply this to all English translations and translators?
 

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Do you apply this to all English translations and translators?


Personally I only use about six different English versions of the bible, so would not know what all bibles are like.
I generalized because it was to make a point that one could never be sure of the biases of the translators.
When Jesus/Holy Spirit is leading one, he or she does not need to be concerned about what version of the bible is correct. Jesus/Holy Spirit will guide one to the truth.