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I had several over the years. Doesn't matter now. Matt Slick, and Diane and their sycophantic cronies cannot handle open and public rebuttal of their stated positions. I'll return there once again as time allows. Why not ask for the evidence they erased instead on the subject, and many others?
Oh I see you were banned numerous times.
 
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Interesting. Where is this in the Bible?
Read this very carefully:

Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:​

Do not be confused by the word "likeness" in context of Romans 8:3, as for instance see Philippians 2:7-8; Romans 5:14 (similitude, sameness), 6:5. His flesh nature was nailed "to His cross" (Colossians 2:14).

The very flesh (nature) of Jesus (not his Deity nature, Philippians 2:6) is given in His flesh (nature) lineage, from fallen flesh Adam (Luke 3:23-38), and fallen flesh Abraham (Matthew 1:2-18; Hebrews 2:16), and fallen flesh David (Matthew 1:6-18; Acts 2:29-30; Romans 1:3) and fallen flesh of Mary, for His flesh was made under the law of flesh (nature) inheritance (Galatians 4:4), in other words his very flesh (nature) DNA came from fallen Adam, through Abraham, through David, through Mary (thus His flesh (nature) was "made of a woman", see "a body" Hebrews 10:5; Psalms 40:6), was of His own people (Revelation 12:4).

He did not taken upon Himself the unfallen flesh nature of angelic beings (like Gabriel; 1 Corinthians 15:38-41), but of the flesh nature, the "seed" of Abraham (Hebrews 2:14,16-17). He was tempted in all points by that flesh (nature; Hebrews 4:15), yet committed no sin while in that fallen sinful flesh (Hebrews 4:15, 7:26; Exodus 12:5; Matthew 26:60, 27:4,18-19,23-24; Luke 23:4,14-15,22,41,47; John 15:10, 16:33, 18:38, 19:4-5; Romans 5:19; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 9:4; 1 Peter 2:22; 1 John 3:5; Revelation 3:21), because He was born in the spirit of the Holy Ghost/Spirit (Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:35; John 3:6; Acts 4:27,30; 1 Corinthians 15:45; Philippians 2:5-6).

Do not ever confuse the two, [1] flesh/body nature and [2] spirit/mind/heart (John 3:6). For Jesus, bearing in His own body, His own flesh (nature) our sins (John 1:14, 3:6; Acts 2:26,31; Romans 6:6, 7:4, 8:3; 1 Timothy 3:16 (1 Corinthians 15:38,47); 2 Corinthians 5:16; Galatians 5:24; Ephesians 5:30; Philippians 3:21; Colossians 1:22; Hebrews 5:7, 10:10,20; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1, 4:2-3; 2 John 1:7), and yet lived without committing sin (1 John 3:4), was able to condemn all sin, therefore sin is without excuse, even in the fallen sinful flesh (nature) we have, for we can be born of the Holy Ghost/Spirit (John 1:12-13, 3:1-21; Galatians 4:29; 1 Peter 1:23; 1 John 2:29, 3:9, 5:4,18), and walk even as He (Jesus) walked (1 John 2:6) in the here and now, victorious over all transgression (whether of satan, sin and self; Revelation 2:7,11,17,26, 3:5,12,21, 21:7).

We ought never teach what the Pharisees taught (John 9:34), for in that way lies Roman Catholicism (AntiChrist; 1 John 4:2-3; 2 John 1:7) and "another gospel" (Galatians 1:6), one that cannot ever bring salvation, for it teaches there can be no lasting victory over sin in the here and now, for they teach that to have fallen flesh nature is itself sin, without having committed any transgression of the Law of God. In other words, their theology teaches ("Original Sin" Dogma) that to simply exist in the fallen flesh nature we have is to be a sinner (which is why they must remove Christ Jesus' fallen flesh nature from Him, and invented the "Impeccability", and "Immaculate Conception" (of Mary) Dogmas, so that He is not a sinner by simply existing in the same flesh nature we have (fallen, sinful), and make Him to exist in the unfallen flesh nature of Adam before Adam sinned). We could only have victory through a change of flesh nature.

This video presentation may be of assistance. (PS, I was in the audience for this taping (it was my original home church base for some time); center row 'pie', not on camera, and brother Mike (from Chicago) is a good friend in Christ Jesus, whom I know personally. He still ministers/serves with Amazing Facts (like I used to)).

Restoration, The Last Generation:
 
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Thanks for that. So, what is the SDA Differentia; the significance of the name? I can't recall if it was you but someone said that, alone, is a whole sermon.
 

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Thanks for that. So, what is the SDA Differentia; the significance of the name? I can't recall if it was you but someone said that, alone, is a whole sermon.
Yes, I said that.

Seventh-day ~~~ Adventist.

This name, is a rebuking sermon to those who transgress God's Law (Exodus 20:1-17, especially Exodus 20:8-11), and a hopeful one (see below), for many today do not even believe Jesus (the same Jesus) will really return again a He left, and have effectually become spiritual Deists.

Seventh-day ties us to the Creator.
Adventist ties us to the Redeemer.

Seventh-day ties us to Creation.
Adventist ties us to Consummation/Redemption.

Seventh-day ties us to the Alpha (Aleph).
Adventist ties us to the Omega (Tav).

Seventh-day ties us to the Beginning.
Adventist ties us to the Ending.

Seventh-day ties us to the First.
Adventist ties us to the Last.

Seventh-day ties us to the Author of our Faith (He which began a good work in us).
Adventist ties us to the Finisher of our Faith (He will bring it to completion).

Seventh-day ties us the Rest with God when there was no sin on earth.
Adventist ties to the Rest with God when there will be again no sin, and sin destroyed forever.

Seventh-day ties us to the relationship mankind has with God, in love (God walked with man in fellowship sweet).
Adventist ties us to the reuniting and complete healing of that broken relationship due to sin (God walks again with mankind, with nothing between, no more separation)

Seventh-day ties us to the cycle begun.
Adventist ties us to the cycle ended, or returning once again.

Seventh-day ties us to God's finished work (it is why first-day Christians who do not knowingly repent and keep holy God's day, the Lord's day, the 7th day the sabbath, will never be "completed", "finished" Christians, but always remain just in the beginning stages of their experience, and remain unformed, and unfilled, incomplete and unfulfilled).
Adventist ties us to God's reclamation of His finished work in us (for Christ Jesus, by the Holy Ghost/Spirit through the word of God, comes into us first before His coming in the clouds of Heaven).

Seventh-day ties us to the Eden home (once lost).
Adventist ties us to the Eden home restored (now found).

Seventh-day ties us to the Gardener enjoying the fruit of His labour (rejoicing in the man He created), eating of the "trees" of mankind and the fruit of the Spirit in them.
Adventist ties us to that blessed Hope - Jesus Christ (and His return), which Hope begins in us (for He is found in us again, His Garden).

It ties us to all history of God and His people between.
 
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I like it but don't understand how Adventist ties us to the Redeemer?
Advent, means 'the coming or arrival' (of Jesus Christ, the Redeemer from this world of sin, see John 14:1-4). Before any of that, He must "arrive in the heart".
 
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I can't understand what the DRAW is to keeping laws.... Jesus fulfilled the law...once and for all... He was is and will forever more BE the PERFECT... and totally FULFILLED SACRIFICE.... It is DONE and finished.... Christ died on the cross and paid DEARLY for our sins... yet... we
continue to SLAP HIM across the face with our DO GOOD and BE GOOD attitudes... as if our filthy "do gooding" even means anything.

Do you all realize that GOD is ALMIGHTY?? HE is ALL POWERFUL... ALL SEEING and ALL KNOWING?? Do you believe for one second that you can do ANYTHING to add to the already finished work on the cross?? Do you think being extra good on Saturday is accomplishing ANYTHING?? and... Do you realize that if you desire to follow the LAW... you are then bound to keep ALL of them??

Jesus set us free from all that... His sacrifice was PLEASING to GOD... WE are called to LOVE GOD with all our hearts... All these doctrines of WORKS.... they are nothing but dirty rags... It is CHRIST that is GOOD.... ONLY CHRIST who is GOOD.

People seem to have an affinity for slavery... as though it makes them feel safe and comfortable somehow.

Where the spirit of the Lord is... there is FREEDOM.... OH how I LOVE my FREEDOM... I am able to simply focus all my energy on HIM rather than on me.. and what I NEED to do to remain obedient and saved. It's all so exhausting.

Edit... and for those wondering WHY Addy showed up here... I was invited by the person who started this thread to have a look.
Your entire life is governed by law. Gravity. Traffick laws. Dietary laws. ( Yes, if you don't eat, you die). Jesus spoke of some laws such as affecting all of humanity....it's more blessed to give than receive... Give, and it shall be given unto you... Government directives and laws... Local council by laws... There's law in music, engineering, architecture, aerodynamics, physics, mathematics and science. We learn about many of these in school, some of us went on to university and higher places of learning to earn degrees that we may teach these laws to others. Out entire existence friend upon these laws, many of which were established by God at creation in order that human beings and all nature could exist in the universe.
But why is it that the moment we talk about God's moral laws, we are more willing to cast them aside and pretend they don't matter and are no more applicable to every day life? Shall God establish governments and rulers for the benefit of a well ordered society, but last aside the very laws those governments were founded on? Shall God establish law that governs this temporal existence, but dispense with those laws that govern out eternal lives? Shall God establish temporary carnal laws but do away with eternal spiritual law,?
 

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I can't understand what the DRAW is to keeping laws.... Jesus fulfilled the law...once and for all... He was is and will forever more BE the PERFECT... and totally FULFILLED SACRIFICE.... It is DONE and finished.... Christ died on the cross and paid DEARLY for our sins... yet... we
continue to SLAP HIM across the face with our DO GOOD and BE GOOD attitudes... as if our filthy "do gooding" even means anything.

Do you all realize that GOD is ALMIGHTY?? HE is ALL POWERFUL... ALL SEEING and ALL KNOWING?? Do you believe for one second that you can do ANYTHING to add to the already finished work on the cross?? Do you think being extra good on Saturday is accomplishing ANYTHING?? and... Do you realize that if you desire to follow the LAW... you are then bound to keep ALL of them??

Jesus set us free from all that... His sacrifice was PLEASING to GOD... WE are called to LOVE GOD with all our hearts... All these doctrines of WORKS.... they are nothing but dirty rags... It is CHRIST that is GOOD.... ONLY CHRIST who is GOOD.

People seem to have an affinity for slavery... as though it makes them feel safe and comfortable somehow.

Where the spirit of the Lord is... there is FREEDOM.... OH how I LOVE my FREEDOM... I am able to simply focus all my energy on HIM rather than on me.. and what I NEED to do to remain obedient and saved. It's all so exhausting.

Edit... and for those wondering WHY Addy showed up here... I was invited by the person who started this thread to have a look.
Addy, when you've used the bathroom you clean yourself if you want to keep smelling nice....that's a law. Of course if you are indifferent to smelling nice you don't need to clean up.....pretty soon there's going to be a reaction of some sorts from those you mix with.....that's a law also. You don't believe me?...try it.
God's Laws are designed for us to smell nice, so to speak....I think you get my drift!
 

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Your entire life is governed by law. Gravity. Traffick laws. Dietary laws. ( Yes, if you don't eat, you die). Jesus spoke of some laws such as affecting all of humanity....it's more blessed to give than receive... Give, and it shall be given unto you... Government directives and laws... Local council by laws... There's law in music, engineering, architecture, aerodynamics, physics, mathematics and science. We learn about many of these in school, some of us went on to university and higher places of learning to earn degrees that we may teach these laws to others. Out entire existence friend upon these laws, many of which were established by God at creation in order that human beings and all nature could exist in the universe.
But why is it that the moment we talk about God's moral laws, we are more willing to cast them aside and pretend they don't matter and are no more applicable to every day life? Shall God establish governments and rulers for the benefit of a well ordered society, but last aside the very laws those governments were founded on? Shall God establish law that governs this temporal existence, but dispense with those laws that govern out eternal lives? Shall God establish temporary carnal laws but do away with eternal spiritual law,?

I am a recluse... a modern day hermit... I live alone... I do not work... and the laws I must follow are far and few between.
If I looked at life the way you have just expressed... I would die of horror.

My entire day from the moment I wake to the moment I go to bed is set on the FACT that GOD is my CREATOR.... every single day is a NEW day to CELEBRATE and PRAISE GOD.... Every day is the Sabbath for me... I understand that most people have to work and integrate themselves in society.... but I don't.... and so I use all the extra time I have to seek God...

I have been so blessed to be spending a lot of time at the lake... from the wee hours of the morning to early afternoon... simply marvelling at the wonder of God.... and so... when I say FREEDOM... this is what I mean....

Obsessing about one day of the week over another... with the attitude of I'm right and they're wrong is foreign to me... I don't understand... Saturday or Sunday.... either or... pick one... pick all 7 days to have an amazing relationship with the Lord.

As far as the dietary stuff... making rules about what one eats is simply mind boggling to me... YES of course... eat healthy.... and once in a while... don't eat healthy.... all in THANKSGIVING to CHRIST. Everything in moderation.

Anyways... it's all good... You don't need my approval to live as you see fit.
 

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Read this very carefully:

Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:​

Do not be confused by the word "likeness" in context of Romans 8:3, as for instance see Philippians 2:7-8; Romans 5:14 (similitude, sameness), 6:5. His flesh nature was nailed "to His cross" (Colossians 2:14).

The very flesh (nature) of Jesus (not his Deity nature, Philippians 2:6) is given in His flesh (nature) lineage, from fallen flesh Adam (Luke 3:23-38), and fallen flesh Abraham (Matthew 1:2-18; Hebrews 2:16), and fallen flesh David (Matthew 1:6-18; Acts 2:29-30; Romans 1:3) and fallen flesh of Mary, for His flesh was made under the law of flesh (nature) inheritance (Galatians 4:4), in other words his very flesh (nature) DNA came from fallen Adam, through Abraham, through David, through Mary (thus His flesh (nature) was "made of a woman", see "a body" Hebrews 10:5; Psalms 40:6), was of His own people (Revelation 12:4).

He did not taken upon Himself the unfallen flesh nature of angelic beings (like Gabriel; 1 Corinthians 15:38-41), but of the flesh nature, the "seed" of Abraham (Hebrews 2:14,16-17). He was tempted in all points by that flesh (nature; Hebrews 4:15), yet committed no sin while in that fallen sinful flesh (Hebrews 4:15, 7:26; Exodus 12:5; Matthew 26:60, 27:4,18-19,23-24; Luke 23:4,14-15,22,41,47; John 15:10, 16:33, 18:38, 19:4-5; Romans 5:19; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 9:4; 1 Peter 2:22; 1 John 3:5; Revelation 3:21), because He was born in the spirit of the Holy Ghost/Spirit (Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:35; John 3:6; Acts 4:27,30; 1 Corinthians 15:45; Philippians 2:5-6).

Do not ever confuse the two, [1] flesh/body nature and [2] spirit/mind/heart (John 3:6). For Jesus, bearing in His own body, His own flesh (nature) our sins (John 1:14, 3:6; Acts 2:26,31; Romans 6:6, 7:4, 8:3; 1 Timothy 3:16 (1 Corinthians 15:38,47); 2 Corinthians 5:16; Galatians 5:24; Ephesians 5:30; Philippians 3:21; Colossians 1:22; Hebrews 5:7, 10:10,20; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1, 4:2-3; 2 John 1:7), and yet lived without committing sin (1 John 3:4), was able to condemn all sin, therefore sin is without excuse, even in the fallen sinful flesh (nature) we have, for we can be born of the Holy Ghost/Spirit (John 1:12-13, 3:1-21; Galatians 4:29; 1 Peter 1:23; 1 John 2:29, 3:9, 5:4,18), and walk even as He (Jesus) walked (1 John 2:6) in the here and now, victorious over all transgression (whether of satan, sin and self; Revelation 2:7,11,17,26, 3:5,12,21, 21:7).

We ought never teach what the Pharisees taught (John 9:34), for in that way lies Roman Catholicism (AntiChrist; 1 John 4:2-3; 2 John 1:7) and "another gospel" (Galatians 1:6), one that cannot ever bring salvation, for it teaches there can be no lasting victory over sin in the here and now, for they teach that to have fallen flesh nature is itself sin, without having committed any transgression of the Law of God. In other words, their theology teaches ("Original Sin" Dogma) that to simply exist in the fallen flesh nature we have is to be a sinner (which is why they must remove Christ Jesus' fallen flesh nature from Him, and invented the "Impeccability", and "Immaculate Conception" (of Mary) Dogmas, so that He is not a sinner by simply existing in the same flesh nature we have (fallen, sinful), and make Him to exist in the unfallen flesh nature of Adam before Adam sinned). We could only have victory through a change of flesh nature.

This video presentation may be of assistance. (PS, I was in the audience for this taping (it was my original home church base for some time); center row 'pie', not on camera, and brother Mike (from Chicago) is a good friend in Christ Jesus, whom I know personally. He still ministers/serves with Amazing Facts (like I used to)).

Restoration, The Last Generation:
Here is what your buddy in the video said which contradicts your false teaching on Jesus having a sin nature.

" The human nature of Christ: Jesus Christ possessed a sinless human nature with no inclination or propensities toward sin. In that sense, Christ’s human nature was like that of Adam’s before the Fall "

BTW- are Ellen Whites writings inspired ? yes or no

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Sin nature, or fallen flesh nature. There is a difference.
SDA's believe the following from Dennis Priebe website.

"The human nature of Christ: Jesus Christ possessed a human nature that not only was weakened by sin, but had propensities toward sin itself. His nature was like that of Adam after the Fall. "

That is a sin nature no matter how you want to slice it.
 

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SDA's believe the following from Dennis Priebe website.

"The human nature of Christ: Jesus Christ possessed a human nature that not only was weakened by sin, but had propensities toward sin itself. His nature was like that of Adam after the Fall. "

That is a sin nature no matter how you want to slice it.
Rechoired would answer you far better than I, but the way I see it is this. Jesus was born of a woman who inherited the same nature as David and Abraham and Adam. The Catholic alternative that creates a sinless Mary in order that Jesus could be born sinless is a far worse proposition. Think about that in relation to the human possibility of overcoming sin in our lives.
 

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BTW- are Ellen Whites writings inspired ? yes or no
The correct answer is "Absolutely not!" Her doctrines were a mixture of truth and error. But she has been deified by the SDA church, and nothing she wrote can be discarded. And it all began with improper date-setting. The Second Coming of Christ (called "the Advent", hence "Adventists") was supposed to happen on October 22, 1844. And when that failed some new and bizarre doctrines had to be created. The SDA's are an offshoot of the Millerites.
 
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The correct answer is "Absolutely not!" Her doctrines were a mixture of truth and error. But she has been deified by the SDA church, and nothing she wrote can be discarded. And it all began began with improper date-setting. The Second Coming of Christ (called "the Advent", hence "Adventists") was supposed to happen on October 22, 1844. And when that failed some new and bizarre doctrines had to be created. The SDA's are an offshoot of the Millerites.
Agree 100%
 

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Post# 70
Jesus Christ possessed a sinless human nature with no inclination or propensities toward sin

This scripture contradicts this notion:

"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)
 

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Here is what your buddy in the video said which contradicts your false teaching on Jesus having a sin nature.

" The human nature of Christ: Jesus Christ possessed a sinless human nature with no inclination or propensities toward sin. In that sense, Christ’s human nature was like that of Adam’s before the Fall "
No Christophany, Dennis Priebe never said that statement in belief. Anyone can watch the entire video, and you will never find Dennis Priebe making that statement. It is the reason why you did not provide any time indexes from the video.

You got that citation from Dennis Priebe's website, here:

"... To be completely fair with the evidence, we need to ask an Evangelical what is meant by the term “evangelical." Kenneth Samples has written some very fair and objective articles about what he has seen happening in the Adventist Church. but what I am most interested in is his statement of the differences between evangelical and traditional Adventism.

By the mid 1970’s, two distinct factions had emerged within SDA. Traditional Adventism, which defended many pre-1950 Adventist positions, and Evangelical Adventism, which emphasized the Reformation understanding of righteousness by faith. This controversy soon gave way to a full-blown internal crisis which severely fragmented the denomination...

The major doctrinal issues which united this group [Evangelical Adventism] were:

1) Righteousness by faith: This group accepted the Reformation understanding of righteousness by faith (according to which righteousness by faith included justification only, and is a judicial act of God whereby He declares sinners to be just on the basis of Christ’s own righteousness). Our standing before God rests in the imputed righteousness of Christ, which we receive through faith alone. Sanctification is the accompanying fruit and not the root of salvation.

2) The human nature of Christ: Jesus Christ possessed a sinless human nature with no inclination or propensities toward sin. In that sense, Christ’s human nature was like that of Adam’s before the Fall....

3) The events of 1844: Jesus Christ entered into the most holy place (heaven itself) at His ascension; the sanctuary doctrine and the investigative judgment (traditional literalism and perfectionism) have no basis in Scripture.

4) Assurance of salvation: Our standing and assurance before God rest solely in Christ’s imputed righteousness; sinless perfection is not possible this side of heaven...

5) Authority of Ellen G. White: Ellen White was a genuine Christian who possessed a gift of prophecy. However, neither she nor her writings are infallible, and they should not be used as a doctrinal authority...." - Evangelicals And Adventists Together? - Dennis Priebe

Did you see what you just did Christophany? You took a statement, not from the video material presented, and not from Dennis Priebe himself, and attributed it to him, by taking it completely out of context.

The statement you provided was made by those of "evangelical" (defined in the article itself) persuasion, which is contrary to the Scripture, Everlasting Gospel, and Dennis Priebe's material and belief in the video, and on his website. In other words, it is error to make that statement.

You are in great error here. Will you repent and publicly apologize for your mistake Christophany?

Here is what Dennis Priebe stated in the video, with time indexes provided:

00:51:00 - 00:51:02 -- "... I believe Jesus took fallen nature. ..."

00:55:06 - 00:55:48 -- "... So, in summary what I believe, is that Jesus Christ, when he came down to this earth, took the same fallen heredity that you and I have. His fallen heredity is our, ~ the same as ours. The difference, and there is a difference, is from the moment of His birth there is a difference between Him and us. For us, we develop sinful propensities, or habits, of sin very quickly. Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit. You say, "That gives Jesus an advantage." Can you have the same advantage in the New Birth? Can you be born of the Holy Spirit? And so, once the New Birth is in place Jesus is the same as us. His Holy Spirit power can be your Holy Spirit power, and you can have victory over all ..."

01:08:52 - 01:08:58 -- "... Jesus Christ took our fallen nature, because He wasn't a sinner by accepting our fallen nature. ..."

01:18:45 - 01:19:15 -- "... Now here's the question. Can the Law be kept by someone in a fallen nature? That's satan's charge. The Law can't be kept by fallen human beings. Who has disproved that? Has any of you disproved that yet? Satan's charge: The Law can't be kept by someone in a fallen nature. Who's the only one who has disproved that? Jesus Christ, but only if He took a fallen nature. If He took an unfallen nature, no one to this day has disproved satan in his charge ..."​

I watched the whole video again, just to double check. It seems you did not watch all of it. You did not follow the scripture counsel.

BTW- are Ellen Whites writings inspired ? yes or no
It will depend on what you mean by "writings" and "inspired".

All things are "inspired" by one Spirit (true) or another spirit (false).

The "Testimonies" and the "Spirit of Prophecy" are inspired of God. So in that sense, the answer to your question is "Yes" (unequivocally).

Some materials are a combination of things, such as the book The Great Controversy, or even The Desire of Ages (etc) (which are neither Testimonies, or Spirit of Prophecy completely, but has some in each), which contain some quoted and sourced historical material which is not of sister White herself. If you read the preface, you will understand that aspect. So the historical material is given therein is not a direct revelation from God, but a summary that sister White utilized to help others understand what she herself was shown directly. Some of the history is not a perfect representation of that, but a general idea to get the point across about what took place. For instance, the Desire of Ages utilizes many scripture quotes. Those are inspired of God. Yet there are also historical uses which are from historians, that were guided by God generally (remember, everything is inspired in one way or another).

hope this helps !!!
hope this helps !!!
 
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...yet without sin.
Here's the key. Tempted yet immune to temptations. Temptations are always external. Response to temptations is always first internal. Since God cannot be tempted, and Christ is God, Satan could throw a thousand temptations His way, and they would simply roll off -- like water off a duck's back. The temptations would be real but the response would be zero.

Take a mundane example. Let's say you were an addicted smoker and you were delivered from your addiction. After that one could throw a carton of cigarettes at you and you would simply dump them in the garbage. The temptation was external but had absolutely no effect on you.
 

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Yes, it is what scripture says:

1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body [PLEASE NOTE: the text does NOT say "spirit body", which is a contradiction in terms, Luke 24:39 KJB]. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.​

Angels, like Gabriel, are called "ministering spirits", and one ministers with the feet, hands, et, their bodies/persons/beings/souls which is directed by their spirit/mind/heart, under the influence of the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Notice that the context of 1 Corinthians 15:38-49 is the resurrection and the glorified body, just as Jesus' own glorified flesh and bone body:

Php_3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Luk_24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.​

Now, notice, what scripture says of the resurrection and of the present state of angelic nature:

Mat_22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mar_12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.​

I have many more texts which substantiates this. Lucifer (a fallen angel, now satan) himself once wore glorious gems, and precious stones, see Ezekiel 28:13. Angels are not (and never have been) wispy aether. They are solid tangible flesh and bone beings, having a "spiritual body" (a celestial (Heavenly materials, not earthly materials) body under the control of the Holy Ghost, or their own minds a Lucifer/Satan and the fallen hosts).

Paul draws a comparison to from the Sun, Moon and varying stars, all made up of celestial (Heavenly) elements, and differing from one another to those of terrestrial (earthly) elements. Angels are made of higher (Heavenly) materials. They are normally glorious beings, but they can veil their glory when needful (see Genesis 17-19, etc).

PS. that will directly affect the doctrine of "possession", which has nothing to do with the hollywood like mindset that is prevalent today.

You will find wheat and tares, sheep and goats, wise and foolish amidst any congregation of those who take upon themselves the name Seventh-day Adventist. So it will depend upon the doorstep and elders you come into/unto these days. Some could care less, but they do so at their own peril and defiance of the very material written in Scripture and SoP/ToJ.

The Bible (KJB) and the Spirit of Prophecy, or Testimony of Jesus (aka, that which also came by sister White from God's inspiration) teaches Health (reform), more than it does what people call "vegetarianism", or "veganism" (which are names derived from other religious movements). Many use those names, but they do not quite line up with scripture. For instance, a "vegan" is allowed to drink alcohol, while it is forbidden in scripture (Proverbs 20:1, etc). A "vegan" won't eat honey, but the Bible allows it to be eaten in temperance, lest too much and one vomit it out. "Vegetarianism" is more of a cultural thing. So while those words are often used, the real term that should be used is "Health Reformers", or "Health Gospellers", or one might even use "Plant-based diet" or Garden of Eden diet, etc.

You might consider this presentation by this palagi:

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God is concerned with body and mind:

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.​

3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.​

The Body is the Temple of the Holy Ghost, and it cannot accept the unclean and abomination in the diet and remain holy and undefiled. God will not accept it as a "living" "sacrifice".

The sanctuary of Heaven (Hebrews 8:2, etc) itself teaches the health laws of God are eternal.

God warns, very strongly, about those who make their belly their god, thinking that they can eat/drink anything they want outside of the true God's health law:

1Co_6:13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

Php_3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

1Co_3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1Co_10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.​

Go read, 1 Corinthians 10; Psalms 78 and Numbers 11. In that order. Read very carefully.

God means what He says:

Isa_66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
I like your questions. Good, simple questions. Feel free to ask anything, really.

Thanks for the detailed responses.

What about things like marriage?

What are the general views about SDAs marrying a Christian from a different denomination?

Is it widely accepted so long as the other person is a Christian or is it usually frowned upon? Or are SDAs expected to marry SDAs?

And some other questions

What is the main SDA view about celebrating Christmas and Easter?

Do SDAs do communion in the same way as most other protestant churches? Or do they do it differently?

And a totally different one, why do SDAs place a lot of emphasis on USA for end time prophecy?
 

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Since God cannot be tempted, and Christ is God, Satan could throw a thousand temptations His way, and they would simply roll off

The scriptures say that Christ was tempted just like we are. You cannot explain that away my friend.

At the same time we, who are in Christ, can resist sin just like Christ did as well:

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also" (John 14:12)
 
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