Job's friends failed him in his hour of need

The book of Job is so easily misleading...
what I mean is, when you are quoting from it, you have to know who is speaking.
Were his friends speaking truth, truth mixed with lies, false witnessing?
So when your quoting from it, you have to know if it's Job, or his friends, or that young one who came out from the whirlwind..
Job is a fascinating book. Testimony even.

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Michiah-Imla said:

But Elihu, the “smart alec” (as you say), isn’t accused by God of any error in this matter.

"And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job. So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD also accepted Job." (Job 42:7-9)

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Jobs three friends…but there is a forth.
Job 33:6-7 Behold, I am according to thy wish in God's stead: I also am formed out of the clay. (Romans 8:3) [7] Behold, my terror shall not make thee afraid, neither shall my hand be heavy upon thee.

My terror shall not make you afraid….
2 Corinthians 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Neither shall my hand be heavy upon thee.
Matthew 11:28-30 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.


Daniel 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Psalm 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

DPMartin said:

hence the Word of God declarers Job righteous. now we know nothing can turn back the Word of God

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I’ve never considered that. Wow! “Hence the Word of God declares Job righteous.”

DPMartin said:

so once the Lord said Job is righteous Job was righteous no matter what

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John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Enoch111 said:

Yes. Smart Alec Elihu got a free pass. Probably because he was not regarded as a friend of Job. Could have been a visitor. But his errors are obvious.

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Elihu’s errors are not obvious. There aren’t any errors on Elihu’s part. God is a just God and he would not have given anyone a free pass on errors. Your judgment of Elihu is flawed. And to go so far as to lay an insulting remark on him shows your lack of respect and reverence in the word of God. Elihu did just what God did; God rebuked Job as well!

"Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job." (Job 32:2-3)

@Enoch111

Job’s reply to God shows Job’s own error in the matter:

"Then Job answered the LORD, and said, Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further." (Job 40:3-5)

Michiah-Imla said:

Elihu’s errors are not obvious. There aren’t any errors on Elihu’s part. God is a just God and he would not have given anyone a free pass on errors. Your judgment of Elihu is flawed. And to go so far as to lay an insulting remark on him shows your lack of respect and reverence in the word of God. Elihu did just what God did; God rebuked Job as well!

"Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job." (Job 32:2-3)

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I don’t see all the errors neither. As far as wrath kindled against Job and his friends it makes me think of Elijah. Do we call Elijah a smart Alec? Seems Elihu and Paul agree on one thing Job 36:8-13 And if they be bound in fetters, and be holden in cords of affliction; [9] Then he sheweth them their work, and their transgressions that they have exceeded.

Romans 7:10-14 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. [11] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. [12] Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. [13] Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. [14] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Michiah-Imla said:

@Enoch111

Job’s reply to God shows Job’s own error in the matter:

"Then Job answered the LORD, and said, Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further." (Job 40:3-5)

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Philippians 3:20-21 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Hi @VictoryinJesus I was thinking also, the theme of patience is associated with Job; and this ties in with Romans 8.24.-25:

"24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.)

farouk said:

Hi @VictoryinJesus I was thinking also, the theme of patience is associated with Job; and this ties in with Romans 8.24.-25:

"24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.)

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wow what a good reminder this morning @farouk. Thank you! James 1:3-4 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. [4] But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

James 2:20-24 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? [22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? [23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. [24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
…that the trying of your faith worketh patience. [4] But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

VictoryinJesus said:

I’ve never considered that. Wow! “Hence the Word of God declares Job righteous.”



John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

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well its simple the Word of God is "the" Truth, therefore it must come to pass. when God said let there be Light, there will be Light. one could ponder the possibilities in no matter what you say must come to pass. which is the place of the Word of God in God's creation. sovereign forever, all of creation knows it's Maker through His Word.

Enoch111 said:

We'll let the record speak and show the lies of Elihu:

FALLACY #1. JOB WAS NOT STRIVING AGAINST GOD
Why dost thou strive against him? for he giveth not account of any of his matters. (33:13)
FALLACY #2. JOB WAS NOT DRINKING UP SCORNING LIKE WATER
What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water? (34:7)
FALLACY #3. JOB WAS NOT WALKING WITH WICKED MEN
Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men. (34:8)
FALLACY #4. JOB DID NOT SAY THAT DELIGHTING IN GOD WAS UNPROFITABLE
For he hath said, It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself with God. (34:9)
FALLACY #5. GOD DID LAY UPON JOB MORE THAN HE DESERVED
For he will not lay upon man more than right; that he should enter into judgment with God. (34:23)
FALLACY #6. JOB'S WORDS WERE NOT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OR WISDOM
Job hath spoken without knowledge, and his words were without wisdom. (34:35)
FALLACY #7. JOB WAS NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF WICKED MEN
My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end because of his answers for wicked men.(34:36)
FALLACY #8. JOB WAS NOT SINNING OR ADDING TO HIS REBELLION
For he addeth rebellion unto his sin, he clappeth his hands among us, and multiplieth his words against God. (34:37)

I could add many more wicked lies from Elihu, but this should suffice to show that Elihu had no clue about Job's predicament, but was simply trying to be a Smart Alec and condemning Job without reason.

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God has spoken in the matter and the case is closed.

Elihu was not accused of any error by God.

Why you insist on pursuing a case against a man in whom God found no fault with is beyond comprehension.