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Joyful

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Jesus talks about fruitless fig tree saying if His followers don't produce fruit they will be cut down and burned. Does this sound like OSAS?????
 

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That would depend upon what you mean by Osas. I have never heard of this word before, and it is not in the dictionary.
 

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Writer...Osas it's not a word. It is a abbreviation for "Once Saved Always Saved".(Faithful1)
Jesus talks about fruitless fig tree saying if His followers don't produce fruit they will be cut down and burned. Does this sound like OSAS?????
To me, yes it does, cause the people that believes OSAS drops their guard down.
 

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Give the passage that you are referring to and I will take a look at it and hopefully be able to give some thought on what is being said here. When we are saved we are always saved, or as you put it, OSAS. Romans 8:1 and John 10:30 (or31) is proof of this.
 

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Give the passage that you are referring to and I will take a look at it and hopefully be able to give some thought on what is being said here. When we are saved we are always saved, or as you put it, OSAS. Romans 8:1 and John 10:30 (or31) is proof of this.
Have you been reading New Testament? If we are saved no matter what, then why does Jesus give us so many warnings?
 

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Jesus talks about fruitless fig tree saying if His followers don't produce fruit they will be cut down and burned. Does this sound like OSAS?????
Which passage do you have in mind? I can think of more than one fig tree incident, and I wonder if you were actually thinking of an incident that involves trees, but not fig trees exactly. Here would be my best guess as to which one you mean, but the context is that of false prophets:
Mat 7:18 "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits.
If not this one, then this fig tree one here, which reminds me of those specifically in Jesus' day:
Luke 13:7 "And he said to the vineyard-keeper, 'Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. Cut it down! Why does it even use up the ground?' 8 "And he answered and said to him, 'Let it alone, sir, for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer; 9 and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not, cut it down.'"
 

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Thank you for your input B,
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If I remember correctly how I understand about Jesus' fig tree in the parable is that He is talking about our fruit of Christianity. We all have responsibliblity according to the gift God gave us. According to Jesus we will be cut down if we dont produce fruit according to the gift God gave us.
 

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Thank you for your input B,
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If I remember correctly how I understand about Jesus' fig tree in the parable is that He is talking about our fruit of Christianity. We all have responsibliblity according to the gift God gave us. According to Jesus we will be cut down if we dont produce fruit according to the gift God gave us.
Faithful I think you may be confusing the good fig bad fig with the parable of the fig tree.The parable of the fig tree has to do with timing of end time generation not producing good fruit. You can do a search of Parable of the fig tree here to read it.
 

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Faithful I think you may be confusing the good fig bad fig with the parable of the fig tree.The parable of the fig tree has to do with timing of end time generation not producing good fruit. You can do a search of Parable of the fig tree here to read it.
We have to agree to disgree. Thank you for your input.
 

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Are you speaking of the time Christ cursed the fig tree because it had no fruit and it whithered ? It is MARK 11:13 and Matthew 21:19 ... I agree with you that many who are "saved" will not be accepted into the kingdom... the time of the antichrist will find many who fall for his lies and will worship him ...they are those who are in the churches today , who listen to the teachings of foolish men who tell them the "traditional stories" rather than the truth... the Word says in Revelation 20:4 speaks of the 1000 year reign of Christ in the Messianic Age and there is described the number of those who will be living with Christ, it is a remnant... America is supposedly a Christian nation with 85% of her people claiming to be "Christian" this is not a remnant... a remnant by defintion is rem·nant : –noun 1. a remaining, usually small part, quantity, number, or the like. 2. a fragment or scrap. 3. a small, unsold or unused piece of cloth, lace, etc., as at the end of a bolt. 4. a trace; vestige: remnants of former greatness. So how can you say OSAS.... and come up with a fraction of redeemed a the end of this age?
 

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Are you speaking of the time Christ cursed the fig tree because it had no fruit and it whithered ? It is MARK 11:13 and Matthew 21:19
Yes....
I agree with you that many who are "saved" will not be accepted into the kingdom... the time of the antichrist will find many who fall for his lies and will worship him ...they are those who are in the churches today , who listen to the teachings of foolish men who tell them the "traditional stories" rather than the truth...
Exactly!
the Word says in Revelation 20:4 speaks of the 1000 year reign of Christ in the Messianic Age and there is described the number of those who will be living with Christ, it is a remnant... America is supposedly a Christian nation with 85% of her people claiming to be "Christian" this is not a remnant... a remnant by defintion is
Satan wants everyone to believe America is Christian nation
rem·nant : –noun 1. a remaining, usually small part, quantity, number, or the like. 2. a fragment or scrap. 3. a small, unsold or unused piece of cloth, lace, etc., as at the end of a bolt. 4. a trace; vestige: remnants of former greatness. So how can you say OSAS.... and come up with a fraction of redeemed a the end of this age?
OSAS is not biblical. Jesus is warning His followers in many ways to be faithful until the end. The best ones are in the book of Revlation to the seven churches telling them to be faithful until the end; if we don't, we will be blotted out from the Book of life.
 

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Kriss, I also realize that the verse you are refering to is different meaning. Sorry for another miscommunication.
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So many warnings such as what? And what do you do with the passages I just gave to you?
Habakkuk 2:1-4, 7-8 “For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.”
 

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Are you kidding me writer? Who says it wasn't for Christians? Are you telling us that we only follow the New Testament? The New Testament is full of Old Testament quotes...Old Testament is New Testament concealed and New Testament is Old Testament revealed...Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
 

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This was written in the Old Testament and is not addressed to Christians.
Then why did Jesus preach from it? Why did he quote it? Why did he expand on it? This statement is pure nonsense. John 5:39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Doesn't apply to Christians, eh? II Timothy 3:15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
 
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