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In the second chapter of the book of Daniel is told the story of
Nebuchadnezzar's dream. He demanded his wise men to tell him the
interpretation of the dream but withheld the dream's details; without which
they could not answer.

But God had observed the king's dream; and revealed its details, along with
its interpretation, to Daniel.

Prior to the invention of radio and television, it was likely thought entirely
miraculous that God is able to observe the brain's imaginations, but now I'm
not so sure. Modern technology has led me to suspect that the human brain
broadcasts signals that can, with appropriate equipment, be received and
processed into sound and pictures that can then be observed and/or
recorded like episodes of Murder She Wrote and the Good Witch.

Modern technology has actually helped to make God's ability to observe
dreams far more believable than ever before. Plus, if the brain is sending
signals, then it can likely receive them too, so that God can send a dream,
or an imagination, or a vision, or a bright idea to your head with little more
difficulty than your cell phone sending a video to friends on vacation in Hawaii.

Don't laugh. There was a time when it was thought impossible to fly to the
moon; that is until the Russians successfully launched the first Sputnik back
in October of 1957.

Pop Clock Update: 3,388 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 186,665,248 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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According to Ps 19:1-4, Rom 1:19-20, and Rom 2:14-15; those billions are
required to act upon surprisingly very little in order to be spared the wrath
of God.

1» The conscience intuitively knows there is a supreme being.
2» The cosmos is the result of intelligent design.
3» The designer deserves respect and admiration
4» The designer is someone to fear.

So then the cosmos and the conscience, become the basis upon which God
judges people who've somehow gone through life without ever hearing the
Bible taught or preached. And seeing as how the justice of God is described
as righteous (Rom 2:5) then no doubt their punishment will be quite a bit
more lenient than the punishment in store for the gospel's detractors. (cf.
Luke 2:47-48 and Heb 10:29)
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Where are these billions of people as they act upon surprisingly very little in order to be spared the wrath of God?
 

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According to Ps 19:1-4, Rom 1:19-20, and Rom 2:14-15; those billions are
required to act upon surprisingly very little in order to be spared the wrath
of God.

1» The conscience intuitively knows there is a supreme being.
2» The cosmos is the result of intelligent design.
3» The designer deserves respect and admiration
4» The designer is someone to fear.

So then the cosmos and the conscience, become the basis upon which God
judges people who've somehow gone through life without ever hearing the
Bible taught or preached. And seeing as how the justice of God is described
as righteous (Rom 2:5) then no doubt their punishment will be quite a bit
more lenient than the punishment in store for the gospel's detractors. (cf.
Luke 2:47-48 and Heb 10:29)
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What form are these billions of people as they act upon surprisingly very little in order to be spared the wrath of God. Do they have bodies of flesh and bone or are they just in a spirit form?
 

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Where are these billions of people as they act upon surprisingly very little
in order to be spared the wrath of God?

I don't know.


What form are these billions of people as they act upon surprisingly very
little in order to be spared the wrath of God. Do they have bodies of flesh
and bone or are they just in a spirit form?

I don't know.
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I don't know.




I don't know.
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Sounds like you are not too interested in these billions of people that have never heard the name of Jesus? Where did they go after death? What form were they in just after death and at the present?
 

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Luke 17:20-21 . . And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the
kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of
God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The Greek word translated "within" is a bit ambiguous. It can also be
translated "midst" i.e. among you instead of within you.

There has always been a number of people on earth who are, and who were,
citizens of the kingdom before they passed on. For example:

Col 1:13 . . For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and
brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves.

All the holy people in the Old Testament were citizens of the kingdom, and
there were quite a few in the Israel of Jesus' day who were citizens too.

However, the Pharisees were correct to expect a literal realm (Acts 1:6-7)
but they were somehow unaware that much of the realm's population is
selected in this life rather than the next. The business of selecting folk, and
transferring them into the kingdom, goes on all the time right under the
world's nose; all around them.

» The Pharisees were a bit of an enigma. They were better educated than
most folks in Jesus' day, but for some reason didn't really know the Bible all
that well. In point of fact; upon completing a discussion of regeneration with
one of the Pharisees at John 3:1-10, Jesus inquired: Are you the teacher of
Israel, and do not understand these things?

It goes to show that anybody can read the Bible, and anybody can parrot the
Bible; but not just anybody can explain it.

Pop Clock Update: 3,391 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 186,830,536 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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First of all, hell is the holding cell for the damned awaiting judgment - it’s not their permanent address, which will be the lake of fire.
 

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The Bible's hells are penal colonies where people exist in conscious afterlife
suffering in flame and perpetual dehydration.




There are two hells revealed in the Bible: a hell that's now, and a hell that's
later on. People are being held in the now hell only until the Great White
Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 at which time the dead will be
transferred from the now hell to face the music and afterwards be cast into a
reservoir of liquefied flame; which is labeled a "second" death. Since there is
only one resurrection allotted per person (Dan 12:2, John 5:29) then nobody
is coming back from that reservoir because they will have used up their one
resurrection in order to appear at the Throne; viz: the dead's incarceration in
the reservoir will be permanent.




There's quite a bit of information located in post #5. But, I've yet to mention
a couple of rather grim details. The dead will die in the reservoir of liquefied
flame. However; according to Isa 66:23-24 and Mrk 9:47-48, their corpses
will be preserved as nourishment for a curious species of supernatural worm

Mtt 10:28 reveals another rather grim detail. The permanent hell is capable
of destroying bodies and souls; however, its fire isn't formulated to destroy
spirits. I know that's true because the Devil is a spirit, and according to Rev
20:10 he will suffer in the final hell; but not die there. What I'm saying is:
though people's bodies and souls will die in the reservoir, they will continue
to exist in conscious suffering because humans consist of not just body and
soul, but also spirit. (1Ths 5:23, Heb 4:12)




According to Luke 16:19-31 and 1Pet 3:18-20, people are in the temporary
hell right now even as we speak; but to my knowledge, none as yet are in the
permanent hell.

Cliff
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If you don’t like hell, don’t go there.

God’s done a lot to make heaven available- sent Jesus to die on that cross in our place, so whosoever believes on Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

Faith and repentance gets you to heaven

And those who never heard of Jesus will be judged by what they did in light of what knowledge they had.

But if you’ve heard the gospel and reject it, and reject the spirit of God drawing you to believe and accept that gospel, then you are doomed to the lake of fire - and you got there LITERALLY over Jesus’ dead body.

Shalom Aleichem
 

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I just hope the percentages are nowhere close to Noah's day where 8 were saved.

The number of people that will suffer is scary. But we must not be unsettled by it. God is not dumb / retarded or partial. Everybody going to hell... had equal opportunity to accept or reject Christ. God is just, not unjust. We can know that God tried His absolute best to win them over. Nobodies salvation is on our head. God / Holy Spirit take full responsibility...that's why God is the judge.

Can you imagine if God was a Calvinist / 5 pt Calvinism was true. Boy would people in hell have a valid gripe with God. I would feel disgusted to be in heaven whilst others are in hell. Calvinism really does make me feel so sick inside. Unconditional election :rolleyes:.

Absolutely. Calvinism is an insult to the character and nature, of God - making Him into a sadistic monster - so that every soul in the lake of fire, is there because God wanted them there, from the founding of the world.
 

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Sounds like you are not too interested in these billions of people that have never heard the name of Jesus? Where did they go after death? What form were they in just after death and at the present?

No need to be concerned about billions of people, one does not know.
From the first man called Adam, billions of men have known of, heard of, the heavenly God, heard teaching of His word... and if by happenstance anyone has not heard...
* There is always, Gods marvelous asset;
God is all knowing. God knows what all men
Would freely, willingly choose to believe, "IF" they had heard.
* God IS JUST. Everyone, will receive, What the true thought of their Heart is....or God Being all knowing....what the true thought of their Heart "would choose", had they heard.
* God IS JUST... If one is adamently Against God...He'll help you along on that journey.
If one is adamently For God...He'll help you along on that journey.

Men look at the outside appearences, behaviors, gossip, and judge according to what they see and hear.

God looks at the inside. The heart, where a mans spirit and truth are, and judges accordingly.

1 Sam 16:
[7] But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.
 

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†. John 10:28 . . I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no
one will grab them out of my hand.


Webster's defines "never" as: not ever, at no time, not in any degree, not
under any condition


When people question the reliability of Jesus' statement, they are not only
opposing Webster's definition of "never" but worse: casting a vote of no
confidence in the Lord's competence as a good shepherd.


NOTE: since John 10:28 is an element of the gospel; then those who refuse
to believe Jesus' statement is true, are already destined for hell-- no delay,
and no waiting period.


†. John 3:18 . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever
disbelieves stands condemned already


FYI: eternal life is a quality of life that's impervious to time, decay, death,
and the aging process. Therefore; the sheep to whom Jesus has given
eternal life are impervious to the wages of sin.


†. Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life.

Since eternal life is impervious to the wages of sin; then people who insist
that Jesus' sheep are vulnerable to perishing due to sin are in opposition to
the statement below:


†. John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe
in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for
their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.


†. Rom 8:2 . .The law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and
death.


Pop Clock Update: 580 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 31,955,680 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Apr 12, 2012.


Buen Camino
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No one can forcibly snatch anyone from His hand - but the lukewarm He puts in His mouth and spews them out - Revelation 3:16 - and He warned that same Church at Sardis, they were DEAD, but they thought they were alive. He warned them to repent and be overcomers, or He’d blot their names out of the book of life.

Jesus obviously never got the OSAS memo.
 

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Hell's Population Clock
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Worldly Approx. 385,000 born daily
Worldly Approx. 164,000 die daily

Daily estimation - 164,000 living souls are being
Either
Escorted to Heaven
Or
Sent to Hell.

For decades people have discounted Scriptural taught urgency for men to Choose....Because the World (as we know it) has not "ended".
Yet Daily, thousand of individuals, "to whom the urgency was taught"...THEY became Deceased, and many ignored "the urgency" to Choose their souls destination.

It is urgent, men get the affair of their souls destination in Order.
* Peace, Comfort and Joy...PARADISE
or
* Chaos, Torments and Misery...HELL

Glory to God,
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God pities the world's deplorable spiritual condition and offers a remedy for
it; but that shouldn't be construed to mean that He likes the world. In point
of fact, God regrets its creation. (Gen 6:6)


FAQ: Doesn't God know the future?

A: Yes.

FAQ: God knew in advance that He would regret creating mankind?

A: Yes.

FAQ: Knowing in advance that He would regret it; God went ahead and
created mankind anyway?!


A: Yes.

FAQ: You mean to tell me that the hundreds and thousands of people on a
road to the fiery section of Hades could've been prevented, i.e. nipped in the
bud?


A: Yes.

FAQ: And that makes sense to you?

A: No.

FAQ: How can you possibly believe in a supreme being that makes no sense
to you?


A: My better judgment reasons that the Bible's God is a fantasy, i.e. a myth.
But my intuition is far more persuasive than my better judgment.

For example; when I look up at the starry sky on a clear night, and consider
the complexity of the celestial mechanics holding it all up there and making
it behave the way it does; I cannot help but strongly suspect it's all the
result of intelligent design.

The possibility that the designer might be a deranged genius fails to
moderate my suspicions.

Pop Clock Update: 3,394 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 186,995,824 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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God could have saved everybody if He wanted to.

Proverbs 16:4 (NKJV)
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
 

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God could have saved everybody if He wanted to.

Proverbs 16:4 (NKJV)
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
We have different Gods.

My God is the God who loves the world, who is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance , and sent Jesus to be the propitiation for the sins OF THE WHOLE WORLD, who says that whosoever will, may come, and whosoever believes in Gods son, should not perish, but have everlasting life - who gives to every man a measure of faith, then said by grace we are saved THROUGH faith, then tells us through Stephen in Acts, that the Holy Spirit is resistible, so we have free will to reject the faith that is given us when we hear the word of God preached.

Your God apparently creates pre-damned people, who burn in hell just because your God enjoys predestining them to go there.
 

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We have different Gods.

My God is the God who loves the world, who is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance , and sent Jesus to be the propitiation for the sins OF THE WHOLE WORLD, who says that whosoever will, may come, and whosoever believes in Gods son, should not perish, but have everlasting life - who gives to every man a measure of faith, then said by grace we are saved THROUGH faith, then tells us through Stephen in Acts, that the Holy Spirit is resistible, so we have free will to reject the faith that is given us when we hear the word of God preached.

Your God apparently creates pre-damned people, who burn in hell just because your God enjoys predestining them to go there.
So your god didn't drown all but 8 on Earth and burn Sodom alive "making them an example"? My God Jesus did!

2 Peter 2:5-6 (NKJV)
5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;


Your god didn't say: Hebrews 10:31 (NKJV)
31 "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."? Then who / what is your god? My God is God of the Bible. Do you even believe in the everlasting fire that Jesus warned us about? You can't remove the parts of the Bible you don't like!

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.



 
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There is a significant difference between an atheist and an agnostic. The
former resolutely refuses to accept the existence of a supreme being,
whereas the agnostic at least agrees to the possibility of one out there.

I'm very tolerant of agnostics because those I've encountered are typically
critical thinkers, i.e. they're objective, viz: they neither deny nor affirm the
existence of a supreme being.

Their position is based upon what they consider to be a lack of sufficient
empirical evidence to prove one way or the other. In other words; they
aren't unreasonable, they're simply not convinced.

Pop Clock Update: 3,397 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 186,995,824 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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We have different Gods.

My God is the God who loves the world, who is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance , and sent Jesus to be the propitiation for the sins OF THE WHOLE WORLD, who says that whosoever will, may come, and whosoever believes in Gods son, should not perish, but have everlasting life - who gives to every man a measure of faith, then said by grace we are saved THROUGH faith, then tells us through Stephen in Acts, that the Holy Spirit is resistible, so we have free will to reject the faith that is given us when we hear the word of God preached.

Your God apparently creates pre-damned people, who burn in hell just because your God enjoys predestining them to go there.
I guess you have a different God than God of the Bible! But who/what would that be? I don't think you know.

Psalm 111:10 (NKJV)
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;
 

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I guess you have a different God than God of the Bible! But who/what would that be? I don't think you know.

Psalm 111:10 (NKJV)
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;

One of us has the wrong God, for sure.

The God of Calvinism is a sadistic monster who predestined most of mankind to hell, by making it impossible for them to believe, then damns them for their unbelief.

It actually is worse than that:

The God of Augustine and John Calvin decrees every event that happens, without exception, per the good ole Westminster confession, meaning God commanded Adam to avoid eating the forbidden fruit, then decreed he would eat it, and so is He the author of sin, not Satan.

Maranatha
 

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One of us has the wrong God, for sure.

The God of Calvinism is a sadistic monster who predestined most of mankind to hell, by making it impossible for them to believe, then damns them for their unbelief.

It actually is worse than that:

The God of Augustine and John Calvin decrees every event that happens, without exception, per the good ole Westminster confession, meaning God commanded Adam to avoid eating the forbidden fruit, then decreed he would eat it, and so is He the author of sin, not Satan.

Maranatha
Do you fear God?

Psalm 111:10 (NKJV)
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;