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Ah. I am especially interested in the version of the fig tree story from Mark. Here, Jesus curses the fig tree when he finds no figs upon it, even though it expressly is not the season for figs. Your use of the words cut down and burned made me figure you had to mean a different fig tree story, since this one withers. I find the parable you had in mind daunting. I tend to think about bearing fruit in the light of things like the very first Psalm, where is says,
Psalm 1:1 How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers! 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD, And in His law he meditates day and night. 3 He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water, Which yields its fruit in its season And its leaf does not wither; And in whatever he does, he prospers. 4 The wicked are not so...
Bearing fruit in due season is a less daunting concept. But, of course, it is a terrible idea to think one can sit around until a few years from now and then start to walk. Now is the time. The correct response is, “Here I am, Lord.”
 

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Ah. I am especially interested in the version of the fig tree story from Mark. Here, Jesus curses the fig tree when he finds no figs upon it, even though it expressly is not the season for figs. Your use of the words cut down and burned made me figure you had to mean a different fig tree story, since this one withers. I find the parable you had in mind daunting. I tend to think about bearing fruit in the light of things like the very first Psalm, where is says, Bearing fruit in due season is a less daunting concept. But, of course, it is a terrible idea to think one can sit around until a few years from now and then start to walk. Now is the time. The correct response is, “Here I am, Lord.”
I realize that I mixed up two fig tree parables. what exactly I had in mind was in Luke 13:6-7. You are right; this parable is saying to cut down fruitless tree and not mentioning anything about the burning. I am sure you can find it for me.:angel9: I apologize for my mixed up goofy quote.
 

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what exactly I had in mind was in Luke 13:6-7.
I mixed up something you said to Betchevy.
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Anyhoo, there sure are some good parables about fruit and figs and trees. All of them are instructive! Here is one about a vineyard (OT, though, not quite the same topic):
Isaiah 4:3 And now, inhabitants of Jerusalem and people of Judah, judge between me and my vineyard. 4 What more was there to do for my vineyard that I have not done in it? When I expected it to yield grapes, why did it yield wild grapes? 5 And now I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard. I will remove its hedge, and it shall be devoured; I will break down its wall, and it shall be trampled down.
 

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What I mean by stating that Habbakkuk was written in the Old Testament and not to the Christians is plainly this: When one studies the word of God, they must keep in mind that each book was written for a specific purpose during a specific time and to a specific people. This is better known as that c word everybody likes to avoid: Context. Specific purpose: Habbakkuk was written to show the coming judgment that God would bring upon Judah for her wickedness. Habbakkuk was questioning God how He could use a far more wicked nation to punish His people, God responds by saying that He will judge the Chaldeans as well, and the dialogue continues. Specific Time: The people that Habbakkuk was writing about were under the Old Testament Law.Specific People: This was written concerning and for the people of Judah, to warn them of the coming Judgment upon their wickedness. We would not read about sacrifices of the Old Testament and say that they are for us today, why? Because we are in a different time than they were, Biblically speaking. While there is much to be gained from the Old Testament, we must take it in context.
 

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I mixed up something you said to Betchevy.
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Anyhoo, there sure are some good parables about fruit and figs and trees. All of them are instructive! Here is one about a vineyard (OT, though, not quite the same topic):
I haven't delved into OT prophetic books. I am still studying a book of Revlation.:pray3:
 

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I do not wish for anyone to think that I am ignoring them... I am done with this thread, but if you want me to see anything within it, shoot me a PM, and I will check it out. Thanks!
 

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It is so strange that OSAS is getting confronted in this forum. It usually is the other way around every where. I was so sure that this forum would not be any different from others where I have been to. Is this your first Christian forum, writer? Am I the only one who has been to many other forums?:eek:
 

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No, it is not my first Christian forum. I have been on forums for about 6 years now, some Christian, some not.
then I bet you are surprised like I am that you have been confronted so badly in this forum. Am I right?
 

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No, not particularly. I have been in a number of debates such as these. Once with my English teacher in Highschool; a Lutheran Pastor (when I was 17); and a Catholic Priest (when I was 17 as well). Not all on the same issues, but debates nonetheless. Several times against Mormonism and once against Islam, each with members of those particular faiths. Along with Jehovah Witnesses, etc. I have been in debates with Baptist pastors as well, believe it or not, and one time it ended with me being asked to leave the Church there.So, no, I am not suprised.
 

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No, not particularly. I have been in a number of debates such as these. Once with my English teacher in Highschool; a Lutheran Pastor (when I was 17); and a Catholic Priest (when I was 17 as well). Not all on the same issues, but debates nonetheless. Several times against Mormonism and once against Islam, each with members of those particular faiths. Along with Jehovah Witnesses, etc. I have been in debates with Baptist pastors as well, believe it or not, and one time it ended with me being asked to leave the Church there.So, no, I am not suprised.
Still, the way minstreams are practicing and behaving, they seem to believe they are saved no matter what as long as they claim to be christian and "have Jesus in their heart". My husband is Lutheran, BTW.
 

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Still, the way minstreams are practicing and behaving, they seem to believe they are saved no matter what as long as they claim to be christian and "have Jesus in their heart". My husband is Lutheran, BTW.
very true words faithful1
 

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It belief in Jesus that saves an individual, not their denomination.
when we argue with denominations, we can understand where they are coming from. All denominations have their way of interpreting and many of them don't even read the Bible and just follow their churches' interpretation.
 

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Yes, that is true. But you still have to take the individual into account, and more importantly, what is being said about and from the Word of God by the individual.
 

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Yes, that is true. But you still have to take the individual into account, and more importantly, what is being said about and from the Word of God by the individual.
This is my observation from your posts that you are studying the bible following your church guidance like most of the mainstreams. I truly feel sorry for mainstreams that they are paying so much respect to their denominational interpretations rather than studying directly from the Bible.
 
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