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satan is not currently bound, if he were we would now be in our spiritual bodies, and there would not be one single evil spirit on this earth or anywhere else as they all die the moment Christ hits this earth ,all but satan whom is in the pit.

Isaiah 14:16 "They that see thee shall shall narrowly look upon the, and consider thee, saying. "Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;"

Have you looked at him from the above verse ,have you even seen him yet ?
Your claim is false, satan is currently bound by the 6th vial, and he can't deceive the nations to the final battle as Revelation 20:1-8 teaches

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.


Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 
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Your claim is false, satan is currently bound by the 6th vial, and he can't deceive the nations to the final battle as Revelation 20:1-8 teaches

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.


Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

satan is not bound until after Christ returns
 

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satan is not bound until after Christ returns
Satan is "Currently" bound by the 6th vial in Revelation 16:12, and he cant (Deceive The Nations To Battle) until this 6th vial is poured out

It's that simple, (Deceive The Nations) in Revelation 20:3 is to battle, and not general deception or evil in the world, as many falsely claim
 

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Why does Jesus have to return if an afterlife ALREADY exists??

o_O Who said there was an "afterlife"? You only get one life.

(Hebrews 9:27-28) "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: {28} So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
 
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Satan is "Currently" bound by the 6th vial in Revelation 16:12, and he cant (Deceive The Nations To Battle) until this 6th vial is poured out

It's that simple, (Deceive The Nations) in Revelation 20:3 is to battle, and not general deception or evil in the world, as many falsely claim

satan arrives on this earth at the 6th seal 6th vial and 6th trump
Christ returns at 777
that's when satan gets bound

then he is set loose for a short season
 

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satan arrives on this earth at the 6th seal 6th vial and 6th trump
Christ returns at 777
that's when satan gets bound

then he is set loose for a short season
We Will Disagree

Satan is "Currently" bound by the 6th vial in Revelation 16:12, and he cant (Deceive The Nations To Battle) until this 6th vial is poured out

It's that simple, (Deceive The Nations) in Revelation 20:3 is to battle, and not general deception or evil in the world, as many falsely claim
 

n2thelight

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We Will Disagree

Satan is "Currently" bound by the 6th vial in Revelation 16:12, and he cant (Deceive The Nations To Battle) until this 6th vial is poured out

It's that simple, (Deceive The Nations) in Revelation 20:3 is to battle, and not general deception or evil in the world, as many falsely claim

Ephesians 6:11 "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil."

Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh ad blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

As per the above satan is not currently bound

he has yet to pull off the greatest deception in the history of mankind ,since the Garden
 

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Ephesians 1:v.3-4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:


GOD the Almighty has planted two heavens, but both were corrupted because Satan worked freely within the two heavens.

Matthew 13:27-28
27 The servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this.


The New Heaven - the Third Heaven

In fact, Satan was not cast down from heaven to the earth yet, but will be from now on, and GOD will PLANT the third heaven, and Satan will not have any chance to enter in the third heaven that will be established by the Most High GOD from now on, or rather, in this new millennium that has started.


JESUS said: Luke 20:v.35-36
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world-the Kingdom of GOD-the third heavenly place in Christ- , and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

By the way, the duration of the FIRST heavenly place in Christ was around 1.500 years;

The duration of the second heavenly place it is around 2.000 years;

The duration of the third heavenly place, that is the next heaven, the third, I repeat, will be around 1.000 years;

The heaven of the heavens that will be established after the current millennium will be for ever and ever, for everlasting times.


There will be two destinations from now on: Heaven or Hell;

Where will you spend Eternity? Heaven or hell? God knows where it will be.



There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to
destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt.10:v.26-28
 

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If satan was bound you wouldn't be deceived right now ,as you would have the WORD Himself teaching you....
Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle


Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.
 

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Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle


Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.
Truth7t7 I think your rational and interpretation is so far off course you have lost yourself in the fantasy. Anyway, I'm not expecting you to accept this view but I needed to say it.
God will not withhold insight providing people don't insist on plastering their opinion over his words and direction.
 

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Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle


Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

One of us by virtue of not agreeing is deceived , so take a look at the below

Revelation 20:3 "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

When were the 1000 years fulfilled ?
 

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Truth7t7 I think your rational and interpretation is so far off course you have lost yourself in the fantasy. Anyway, I'm not expecting you to accept this view but I needed to say it.
God will not withhold insight providing people don't insist on plastering their opinion over his words and direction.
Opinion void of scriptural argument, Please respond to the claims regarding interpretation of (DeceiveThe Nations) below, "Waiting"?

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.


Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to
deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
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One of us by virtue of not agreeing is deceived , so take a look at the below

Revelation 20:3 "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

When were the 1000 years fulfilled ?
I have clearly shown you "numerous times" as seen in post #78 above, satan is "currently" bound by the 6th vial in Rev 16:12 from (Deceiving The Nations To Battle), it must be poured out and he will be loosed

Your interpretation of (Deceive The Nations) in Rev 20:3 apparently has you bound, this doesn't represent satan's evil in this world presently, but is specifically the present binding for one specific purpose (Deceive The Nations To Battle)

Jesus Is The Lord, In Love
 
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Why does Jesus have to return if an afterlife ALREADY exists??
Because the resurrection of the dead body when it is raised a spiritual body is an integral part of the gospel, and it will occur for those who died believing in Christ when He returns to gather His elect, and those who are still alive when He returns will be changed in form (from a flesh body to a spiritual body) and meet the Lord in the air with the others (1 Thessalonians 4:14-18).

If you want a list of all the verses talking about the resurrection of the dead when Christ returns, go here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gYTKhO_bxFBrxHaXEWaQYlgXBYyfPAkD/view