Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #5

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Whom cried out “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

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BroRando

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Again . . . to exist, not to come into existence.

Jesus created all that was created, and was not Himself created.



Maybe time for a break?

:eek:

Much love!

HELPS Word-studies
1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

Jesus is the "to be' as in 'to become' or to be begotten... Read (John 3:16). You will learn much if accept the (I am) words of truth.. All the angels existed before Abraham was.... Notice Jesus never claims to be the I am who I am...

Firstborn of ALL CREATION (Colossians 1:15)
the Beginning of the creation (Revelation 3:14)
In the Beginning was the Word (John 1:1)

The one who claims to know that I am does not know the I am. "Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will." (Matthew 7:21)

You reject the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ and refuse to do the Father's Will.. so (Mathew 7:21) will come to bite you for lying.

If you're lying... you're dying...
 

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Jesus is the "to be' as in 'to become' or to be begotten... Read (John 3:16). You will learn much if accept the (I am) words of truth.. All the angels existed before Abraham was.... Notice Jesus never claims to be the I am who I am...

Different words there. eimi, and ginomai. To exist, and to cause to exist.

Before Abraham was (past), I AM (present). Jesus is not a created angel. Jesus is eternal. I AM.

John 3:13 KJV
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Eternal God.

Much love!
 

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Different words there. eimi, and ginomai. To exist, and to cause to exist.

Before Abraham was (past), I AM (present). Jesus is not a created angel. Jesus is eternal. I AM.

John 3:13 KJV
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Eternal God.

Much love!

TO BE or Not to be, that is the Question... Jesus came into existence "to be" which is the actual meaning of eimi.
HELPS Word-studies 1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

Since Jesus was an angel... he had to be given Life in himself 'to become' eternal.... "For just as the Father has life in himself, so HE has granted also to the Son to have life in himself." (John 5:26)

"Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will." (Matthew 7:21)

Anyways, Jesus hands the Kingdom back to his God and Father at the end of the 1,000 years. "Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power." (1 Cor 15:24)

Zippy Dee Do Dah!
 

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TO BE or Not to be, that is the Question... Jesus came into existence "to be" which is the actual meaning of eimi.
HELPS Word-studies 1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")
I think you've convinced me, and that's not an easy thing to do!

But I am becoming increasingly convinced that you actually do know what these words mean, but choose to present them the way you do regardless of that.

Much love!
 

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I think you've convinced me, and that's not an easy thing to do!

But I am becoming increasingly convinced that you actually do know what these words mean, but choose to present them the way you do regardless of that.

Much love!

Wanna know a secret?
 

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Since Jesus was an angel...
Jesus created all that was created. Plain and simple. The Creator God. Jesus Christ. Creator God. The One with Whom you have to do. The One before Whom you shall bow, on your knees to declare, Jesus Christ is . . . LORD.

Much love!
 

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You don't tempt me for a moment.

Much love!

Preach! "For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, You Will Be Saved." (Romans 10:9)

Problem with that is that
I am alone in sharing the good news to you, but you don't believe it and teach another gospel...
 

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Isaiah 45:22-25 KJV
22) Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23) I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
24) Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
25) In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

Philippians 2:9-11 KJV
9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Acts 2:21 KJV
21) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 4:11-12 KJV
11) This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 4:10 KJV
10) Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Much love!
 

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I made some Corrections for you since you're a novice at sharing scripture.

Philippians 2:9-11 KJV
9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Acts 4:11-12 KJV
11) This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 4:10 KJV
10) Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

You'e Welcome. :)

 

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Jesus created all that was created. Plain and simple. The Creator God. Jesus Christ. Creator God. The One with Whom you have to do. The One before Whom you shall bow, on your knees to declare, Jesus Christ is . . . LORD.

Much love!

Jehovah is LORD (God and Father)
Jesus is Lord (Christ or Anointed One)

Father and Son... like Sanford and Son
The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father.

The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. (John 3:35)
Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. (Matthew 28:18)

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)
 

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I made some Corrections for you since you're a novice at sharing scripture.

Philippians 2:9-11 KJV
9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Acts 4:11-12 KJV
11) This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 4:10 KJV
10) Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

I agree with these. Salvation is in YHWH only! There is No other Name give, only JESUS!

Much love!
 

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I agree with these. Salvation is in YHWH only! There is No other Name give, only JESUS!

Much love!

Are you gaining any understanding yet? Those who come between the Father and the Son, the Bible calls the Antichrist. Claiming Jesus is God, then not only does one deny the Father but also the anointed one of God whom is the Christ.

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)

Keep searching for the Christ... otherwise all is lost.
 

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Isaiah 45:22-25 KJV
22) Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23) I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
24) Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
25) In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

Philippians 2:9-11 KJV
9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Acts 2:21 KJV
21) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 4:11-12 KJV
11) This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 4:10 KJV
10) Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Much love!
 

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According to scripture Jesus only became better than the angels because of the Name he inherited. Don't get it twisted.

So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs. (Hebrews 1:4)
 
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You are myopic

You can call me whatever you want. The fact is, considering the Bible in its entirety, it is all written by monotheist Jews who reject the trinity to this day. This explains why the trinity is not in the Bible. The doctrine of the trinity is so important, not one of the 66 books spells out the trinity doctrine once!

you are so narrow focused on a few verses you can't see ho wmyopic you are!

Projecting much?

So funny coming from the guy who incessantly posts the figurative John 1:1, while ignoring the same Gospel has Jesus explicitly identify his father has the one true God in 17:3 and has not gone to his God yet in 20:17 or that John's entire Gospel is written to prove Jesus is the Messiah in 20:31. This logically means you cannot use 1:1 to proof anything else. Then there are the explicitly damning verses in Acts which say God - in his unitarian nature - chose Jesus and raised him from the dead.

Then there is every single epistle which identifies the Father, as God alone. By contrast, not one time in all of the Bible is "God the Son" or 'God the Holy Spirit' mentioned. But this means naught.

In your estimation, it's better to ignore all that, use the figurative John 1:1 in violation of 20:31 to prove whatever you want and call me myopic. Your done, you say but have not once acknowledged the compelling verses in Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About. Instead criticize me. Nice!

Make a blessed day.
 
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Well when you decide what is literal versus allegorical- there is no sense in talking to you. Every verse that declares Jesus is just as divine as HisFather you call figurative or allegorical. We will let God be the judge and He will tell us who is right and who has been deceived.

God has already told us. His word is written. Nowhere is the doctrine of the trinity.

There is no verse that declares Jesus is just as divine as His Father, who alone is God. Jesus himself says God is greater than him, knows more than him, sent him, told him what to say and referred to his God. This means nothing to you.

And, of course, you overlook the central fact of the New Testament that proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that Jesus is not divine; Jesus died.


But You are the same, You will never change;
Your years will never come to an end

Psalm 102:27 (VOICE)
 

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It shows how desperate Trinitarians are to continue to invoke a passage having nothing to do with the subject of the thread, Jesus or the Book of Acts. Did you ever watch the vid I posted dozens of times on John's prologue?

OMG I remember this guy peddling his heresies years ago on CARM. He didn't last very long over there lol. Its the same exact antibiblical doctrines he was pushing back then and was refuted. But hey if you want to be deceived then by all means stay on that broad road the leads to destruction by rejecting the One and Only Person who can save you from your sins- Our Great God and Savior of the world- Jesus Christ- Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, 2 Peter 1:11

hope this helps!!!
 

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if you want to be deceived then by all means stay on that broad road the leads to destruction by rejecting the One and Only Person who can save you from your sins

No one said anything about rejecting Jesus as our Savior and master. It is just that the only God is Jesus' God as Jesus himself said at John 17:3. What do you say about that?