Methuselah - When did he die and why at that particular time
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David in NJ
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faithful servants of God did not produce a monstrous offspring that so was defiled/corrupted spiritually and genetically that God had only one option - to wipe clean the earth with the Flood.
Had God not preserved Noah and his wife spiritually and genetically, satan would of been successful in preventing God's prophecy upon the Seed of the Woman and His crushing the Serpent's head (satan).
Satan would of Won.
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amigo de christo
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Be encouraged my friend . Let us really look at the example in noahs days .
Once the door of the ark was closed ...............there was no second chance . Same with the days of lott . Once lott and his family
got out of sodom , there was no second chance for those trapped inside its walls .
Neither will there be at the coming of the LORD . IF one is not already in that ark , then they shall perish under the wrath of GOD .
This is why its dire important that JESUS is pointed too . There was no second ark brought in later to pick up some stragglers
GOD really will abandon the generation of His wrath , THOUGH HE was SO longsuffering and Had desired none to perish .
amigo de christo
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Be ye ready and watching for you know not the hour the LORD shall appear .
Lest coming suddenly He find you sleeping . JESUS said this , AS HE DID ALL THINGS , for our good and all His reminders
will truly work to the good of the hearer and the doer of them .
Thus let us observe all His teachings and all the apostels taught . That pattern is a blessing .
Of course it is , JESUS gave it and later , by the SPIRIT the apostles would teach it . WE must DO the same .
Let all that has breath praise and thank and rejoice in the glorious LORD . HIS EVERY WORD works good unto the soul of a lamb .
Lest coming suddenly He find you sleeping . JESUS said this , AS HE DID ALL THINGS , for our good and all His reminders
will truly work to the good of the hearer and the doer of them .
Thus let us observe all His teachings and all the apostels taught . That pattern is a blessing .
Of course it is , JESUS gave it and later , by the SPIRIT the apostles would teach it . WE must DO the same .
Let all that has breath praise and thank and rejoice in the glorious LORD . HIS EVERY WORD works good unto the soul of a lamb .
amigo de christo
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Have you ever wondered why the unclean beasts were by twos and the clean by sevens .
Why is their an extra bird left over . It was so that noah could make sacrfice . Which he did as we read in genesis .
But the unclean was never allowed to be used as a sacrfice . Thus it was the two . the one and his mate .
This is why noah had that extra bird and etc to make sacrfice to GOD . It was why it was seven .
Such are men in their beastly way or even as the beasts that they are. Reading history and about the religions of men [not only directly tied to Christianity it may seem] often men who knew not Joseph, men who knew not Jesus, men who knew not Jehovah God, have engaged in some ways or beliefs or customs, which are similar to God's message through Jesus and the prophets. Lots of mixtures.
One mixture easy to see is found in the Samaritans many sent from pagan lands and ways to replaced the exiled sons of Jacob/Israel in the north, but then having problems it was decided to return a priest of the sons of Aaronic from captivity to teach them something about the ways of God. No renewal done, but the addition or mixture of God's ways to the pagan ways of men...
"Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast removed, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the manner of the God of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the manner of the God of the land.
Then the king of Assyria commanded, saying, Carry thither one of the priests whom ye brought from thence; and let them go and dwell there, and let him teach them the manner of the God of the land.
Then one of the priests whom they had carried away from Samaria came and dwelt in Bethel, and taught them how they should fear the LORD.
Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt." II Kings 17:26-29
"They feared the LORD, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations whom they carried away from thence." II Kings 17:33
Desire Of All Nations
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No one knows where the real book of Jasher is, so the widely distributed version is obviously fraudulent. The Bible only mentions one God-ordained priest who existed before the establishment of the Levitical priesthood, and that is Melchizedek. By process of elimination, it's safe to doubt that there is any truth to what those 2 fraudulent books say.
Josephus says Methuselah was a minister of God before the task eventually fell to Noah, so we can deduce that he certainly had a good relationship with God. From what i see, there was more to tell about Noah than Methuselah because God's warning work started with Noah. It seems Methuselah's work probably only consisted of teaching people God's way of life and being a living witness of the fact that the people around him were being immoral.
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That's why scripture showing the generations is important, as many put cains seed with Seth's . And notice most have similar names
David in NJ
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Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose. So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever,a for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.
Genesis 6:1-4
Brakelite
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All men by comparison to our stature after 5000 years of declining health and vitality, were giants. What your quote says is that they were still on earth during that time, both before and after the apostasy. Some of their descendants survived even to Noah's day. Throwbacks through DNA are still possible even after all this time, even to today.
David in NJ
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Your first part is incorrect according to Scripture - your second, ending part is correct according to Scripture.
Triumph1300
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He was picked by God because he was a great carpenter and knew how to built a boat.
( Sorry, I could not resist to post this.
)Anyways....continue, I am watching.
Brakelite
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And the theory that angels can procreate with women, is first am assumption that all angels are male, and second, that they have the prerequisite equipment. The entire theory is built on fabrications.
David in NJ
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Angels do not reproduce -
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Matt 22:30
The sons of God that took for themselves wives from the daughters of men were not humans.
They were a select group of fallen angels on special mission to STOP the Gospel Preached by God to satan, Adam and Eve in the Garden.
If you remember God prophesied to satan saying: the Seed of the woman will crush your head - Seed = Isaac = Yeshua/Jesus
"But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called." Gen 21:12 and Romans 9:6 and Galatians 3:16
Satan attempted to prevent this Promised Seed - the only begotten Son of God, Jesus the Christ
The sons of God from Genesis left their spiritual domain and came to earth. When they left their domain they took on flesh form.
They genetically polluted humankind made in the Image of God. They altered God's creation of man and thus came within 8 Souls of stopping God and a complete takeover.
Scripture cannot lie - the evidence is in Scripture
Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.
In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
Jude 1: 6-8
Brakelite
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Mmm. So in order to fit the popular myth, sons of God are fallen angels. Right. And that threat fallen angels left their first estate (in heaven) God still considers them His children.
And they took on flesh form... That must be scriptural right? I mean, you wouldn't just say that expecting people to believe it without scripture saying so would you?
And although angels don't procreate with one another, they can do so by working a miracle upon their very nature and changing their species from one thing to another. I would imagine that is scriptural also of course. And naturally, if they didn't do it to themselves, then God did, right? Right?
David in NJ
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i guess you either missed this or you missed this
Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.
In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
Jude 1: 6-8
Scripture cannot lie
Brakelite
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I know precisely the point that the popular storytellers theorize regarding this topic. It's fanciful. It's gripping drama. It would make a terrific movie. And it's nonsense.
David in NJ
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i can't help your unbelief and arrogance but keep going - do you need a bigger shovel?
David in NJ
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Scripture cannot lie
Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.
In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
Jude 1: 6-8
Scripture cannot lie
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