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I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in here. I don't know Glen Beck...I've heard of him of course, but have never actually heard him talk, or read any of his stuff. So I can't comment on whether what he says is right or not.

But perhaps consider this....

[50] But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.”
(Luke 9:50 ESV)

If Glen Beck stands up and professes Christ, can't we consider him a brother? Even if we do not agree with what he says can it truly be a good thing to insult him? Would we want the same thing from those who differ in opinion from us?

I just think that as Christians we sling insults around too easily, when in truth we should band together. Then when we cry "wolf" people won't think we're crying wolf!! (If that makes sense!) Because lets face it, there are many, many false teachers out there, who are leading people astray. Do we want to focus on the perhaps silly, or the deadly?

Sorry if you think I'm sticking my nose in where it's not wanted, but I truly don't want you guys fighting! It's not Glen Beck we follow, after all, it's Jesus!

George Soros is a good example of behind the scenes wealth that has it's own world plans. They remind us of "Babylon the great" in revelation.

Though people criticize Beck, he rarely makes a statement without providing video or audio of the person or organization is claiming.

He also encourages people not to take his word on it but investigate for themselves.

Please note that the majority of people who complain about Beck call him names....but are extremely short on specifics.

They say "he is crazy" or "he is a liar" or "he's a nut"....but when you ask for specifics to support that opinion, they got nothin'.

He is not perfect. No one is. But the difference with him is that when it is pointed out that he is wrong, or he discovers himself that he is wrong, he comes out immediately and says he is wrong and apologizes.

The recent issue with George Soros and Media Matters is not a figment of his imagination. He has provided video, audio, press releases from MM, etc. where they state specifically what their goals are.

He provided video of the SEIU leader Stephen Lerner and his calls for 'economic terrorism."

Lerners own words showed the call for intentionally calling issues that could "bring down" banks, government organizations, and the stock market. He calls for people to intentionally not pay their mortgages to make banks insolvent among other things.

Video doesn't lie. They can't refute the video and the spin is utterly comical so the name callings toward Beck begins.

Normally, when people call Beck names, the are easily stopped short when you ask them for specifics as to why they feel this way.

Rach said:

I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in here. I don't know Glen Beck...I've heard of him of course, but have never actually heard him talk, or read any of his stuff. So I can't comment on whether what he says is right or not.

But perhaps consider this....

[50] But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.”
(Luke 9:50 ESV)

If Glen Beck stands up and professes Christ, can't we consider him a brother? Even if we do not agree with what he says can it truly be a good thing to insult him? Would we want the same thing from those who differ in opinion from us?

I just think that as Christians we sling insults around too easily, when in truth we should band together. Then when we cry "wolf" people won't think we're crying wolf!! (If that makes sense!) Because lets face it, there are many, many false teachers out there, who are leading people astray. Do we want to focus on the perhaps silly, or the deadly?

Sorry if you think I'm sticking my nose in where it's not wanted, but I truly don't want you guys fighting! It's not Glen Beck we follow, after all, it's Jesus!

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Your nose is welcome. Jump in and join the fun. There's no charge.

Onward and upward............that's an interesting scripture verse you quoted to support Mr. Beck.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Right?
Wrong !
Mr. Beck has quoted this same phrase himself and spent many hours disproving it's veracity.

You have a point that insults are cast about too freely. Your post is calling for cooler heads to prevail, but the chief problem is Mr. Beck's head in the first place. His program is advertised as "the fusion of entertainment and information".

Remember first and foremost that this means SHOW BIZ. Mr. Beck, as well as every other pundit and pseudo-newsman, must garner an audience to make his point public. He does that by means of fear mongering. No one can watch his program for long without noticing the little shots that are taken at one's comfort zone.

He's good, though. I'll give him that much. He mostly proves his point as stated above by other posts. He also causes persons of note to react to his accusations or to the light he sheds on their activities. Nobody likes that sort of thing, especially powerful men.

I'm surprised Mr. Beck is still alive!

I have noticed that certain subjects and entitites are left out of his narrative. The omission results in holes in his deductive logic. Since his focus is primarily on current events with the occasional historic background, he is able to render an effective narrative on each issue. But there are still holes. Holes that influence national and international events on a grand scale. Holes that, if filled, might have a permanent effect on Beck's career if not his very life.

I don't always agree with Glenn Beck's analysis, but neither do I think he's an idiot or nut job.
He knows exactly what he's doing.

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I don't always agree with Glenn Beck's analysis, but neither do I think he's an idiot or nut job.
He knows exactly what he's doing.

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I agree. He is very informed. He knows there's a lot of underhanded dealings and treason in government. Is he Mormon?

In my opinion, the focus of thread shouldn't be Glen Beck; but rather should be the words of Stephen Lerner himself and the conspiracy of financial terror that he and his accessories are openly planning against America. Will there be arrests? Doubtful, as our president appears to be on the side of these anti-American, Anti-Christian, anti-freedom radical communists.

God is righteous and only by His righteous judgements do we have such leaders who wish to enslave and destroy us. As a people, we have brought these judgements down upon ourselves.

Hopefully during our upcoming trouble, many will realise why this is happening and repent of the kind of things that brought/brings God's judgement against us.

-Robert

Duckybill said:

I agree. He is very informed. He knows there's a lot of underhanded dealings and treason in government. Is he Mormon?

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Yes, Glenn Beck is Mormon. I've been watching on and off since 2010 and have never heard him make either direct or indirect references to Mormon ideology.

Every religion and every denomination has certain buzz words or phrases. A person will use them during casual conversation and provide clues as to their ideological orientation. Beck has always been professional, at least as far as the use of religious buzz words is concerned. He is politely generic with regard to Christian ideology and uses buzz words and phrases that are generally accepted by any Christian.

Once upon a time in America, most politicans, journalists and even Hollywood movie stars used buzz words and phrases that were respectful of Christians in general and morality in particular. Today, most public figures in America no longer do so. America today is spiritually dead. The conversation that reaches our ears is a testimony to that fact.

I have a few disagreements with Mr. Beck, but none of them includes his religious background, his use of religious terms or his (positive) religious bias. He is respectful, and I wish I heard more like it.

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Your nose is welcome. Jump in and join the fun. There's no charge.

Onward and upward............that's an interesting scripture verse you quoted to support Mr. Beck.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Right?
Wrong !
Mr. Beck has quoted this same phrase himself and spent many hours disproving it's veracity.

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that wasn't my exact meaning with that passage. I more meant that if Mr Beck preaches Jesus, if he brings others to Jesus, do we mind how? I spent ages trying to find the passge (failing!!), but remember when Paul was talking about those who spread the gospel, but in a spiteful way because they didn't like Paul? Paul was like...as long as people are hearing about Jesus, I don't care!
I dunno...in one sense I believe thats true, but if he's actually a mormon...well! We want people coming to Jesus true, but what kind of heresy would a mormon be teaching them? That kind of blows my point out of the water, doesn't it?!
I think my point was that every Christian has different ideas, and that's not necessarily heresy. And if it's not, we should disagree without anger and insult.

[15] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
(1 Peter 3:15 ESV)

Rach said:

that wasn't my exact meaning with that passage. I more meant that if Mr Beck preaches Jesus, if he brings others to Jesus, do we mind how?

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My question would be, is Beck's Jesus the Jesus/Almighty God of the Bible? If not, then how can he lead anyone to the real Jesus/God?

Duckybill said:

My question would be, is Beck's Jesus the Jesus/Almighty God of the Bible? If not, then how can he lead anyone to the real Jesus/God?

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Yeah, that would be the question. If he's a mormon, then his 'Jesus' probably isn't the true one we know. That makes what he's doing both sad and outrageous....people are probably so busy being distraced by all the stuff (which to an extent may all be true) he's showing them, that they never fully realised that they haven't heard the gospel truth.

whirlwind said:

He isn't standing at a pulpit teaching about the gospel. He isn't asking you to become a Mormon. He clearly believes in Jesus but what he is teaching is about the nefarious locusts swarming...trying to destroy America as we know it...not only America but the world. Be aware, see what you're being shown and prepare. Pray for him because he is the only one bringing these proven facts to our attention. Is he sent by God? I think so.

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I'm not judging, I simply don't know enough about him or what he teaches. My point was that if he is in fact a mormon, then that should be of concern to us. The mormons have teachings about Jesus that don't just differ from Christian beliefs, they call into question everything about who Jesus was, and the work that He accomplished. That can be very dangerous.
I'm all for keeping an eye on current world events...not just news headlines, but the things that are just as important but tend to happen behind the scenes...but there are other sources to get them from.
So, If Beck isn't a mormon, then I suppose I go back to my original idea, which was - differences of opinions aside, he's our brother. If he is a mormon, I'm only cautioning people to really test what he says against scripture, which, let's face it, we need to do for everyone!

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He clearly believes in Jesus

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But which Jesus? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Mormons have a severely warped version of Jesus?

but what he is teaching is about the nefarious locusts swarming...trying to destroy America as we know it...not only America but the world. Be aware, see what you're being shown and prepare. Pray for him because he is the only one bringing these proven facts to our attention. Is he sent by God? I think so.

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The World Government is coming soon. Nothing can stop it. We are to warn all we can, not try to stop it.

Revelation 13:7 (NKJV)
[sup]7 [/sup]It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

It appears that this thread has diverted to the topic of Glenn Beck so I will share some thoughts that I have about the information presented on his program.

I watch his program regularly and believe that God is using him to inform those who have eyes to see and ears to hear to give them insight on what is taking place.

On the other hand; his show is constantly promoting the idea of a Muslim Antichrist; which could be a very dangerous doctrine that, if followed, could likely lead to deception.

I do not believe that The Antichrist will be Muslim or present Islam as his religion. Firstly, antichrist means instead of Jesus Christ. Secondly, we know that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.Jesus Christ, of couse, being the Light.

Who would be deceived by an Islamic Messiah coming in the name of a dark and bloody religion?

Could there be a fake/staged antichrist who is Muslim whom the actual False Christ will subdue? Possibly, in my opinion.

Christ tells us in Mark 13 that false Christ's would come and if possible would seduce His Elect. I do not believe that is possible but it is a good indication of the kinds of miraculous signs and wonders that this false Christ and his accomplices will be able to perform.

Clearly, in Mark 13, Christ is warning His disciples THREE TIMES for emphasis that false Christs and false prophets would be coming in HIS name and to be ready for that to happen. Are you ready?

In summary, I feel that Glenn Beck's program is doing some good for some, but I feel that a portion of what he is promoting may cause some to stumble.

Could Islam usher in their own fake version of a Jesus Christ who agrees with Islam?

It is looking like this may be. In any case, any Christ who agrees with Islam is most certainly a fake.

Any Islam-only messiah is obviously a fake, so how is it that many professed Christians will be deceived?

When reading the Bible it says that he will sit in the temple of God claiming to be God.

Doesn't that to a Christian reading the Bible mean that he will be claiming to be Jesus Christ in Jerusalem?

Maybe he will claim to be Christ and the Madhi and other gods as well, all in one filthy abomination.

It appears to me that this will be coming upon us very quickly.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Robert

whirlwind said:

I watch him regularly too...and I have learned a great deal. I feel confident in what I have learned as Beck uses their own words to prove what he is warning us of. And, as far as I know...he is the only one showing these things. As you stated, those with eyes and ears pay attention.


But, I don't watch him to learn about God, although I do believe he is a Godly man. Nor do I take the word of any man about our Father without....

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
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I am very glad you are with us Person....very glad indeed. Welcome.


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Why I watch Beck...occasionally.

I also consult the major news forums on the planet. Everything from The Jerusalem Post to Aljeezera to the BBC, the Drudge Report, Pravda and so on.
The major news outlets in the united States are extremely biased and tend to tell us what to think rather than report it. I find their patronizing attitude insulting.

FOX is the only one I know of that is openly right wing, the other uS outlets are leftist - ALL are militarist.
(If there's another that leans to the right I'd like to add it to my list....please let me know).

The truth seems to pop up in unlikely places here and there all over the planet. Everybody is lying to some extent and some more than others. American news outlets seem to lie nearly as much as the repressive regimes. As a result most Americans seem to have withdrawn into fantasy news; more interested in what celebrities or sport figures are doing rather than their legislative process or congressional activity (or lack of it).

Sooooo I watch Beck too. He's got a few things to say to keep one informed. Not all the truth, but some will do.

GLENN BECK is off the air !
A statement posted on Beck's site THE BLAZE as well as THE NEW YORK TIMES and THE DRUDGE REPORT revealed Beck's imminent departure from regular television appearances. His radio show remains on the air......for now.

The initial reasons stated were the withdrawal of sponsorship wherein said sponsors shifted their support to other programs on FOX.

Beck bit off a little more than he and his sponsors could chew. He isn't the first person to suffer censorship from those who have much more political influence.

The problem with good performers is that they tend to get too buried in their parts and end up believing that the delivery of a line is at the center of the universe. It isn't.

Make no mistake, Mr. Beck is a pretty good performer. If he wasn't a Mormon he could start a mega church somewhere. I'm sure he'd do well. .... and then he'd be back on TV in no time.

As for my daily dose of invective from FOX via GB, I'll miss it.

Washington has become too corrupt to be funny, the late night talk shows have become too filthy to watch and the NFL is too paralyzed to give me hope of relief this season.

Time to read a book I suppose. Any suggestions?