Israel, the Church, and the Rapture

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Davy

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Darby didn't invent pre rapture mate

Never said he did. So by that is that supposed to mean what Darby taught is written in God's Word, or something?

Darby actually got the idea from the Edward Irving Church in 1830's Great Britain, and Darby admitted it. But Darby later separated from that church because of some of the weird manifestations going on there, which they claimed was of The Holy Spirit.
 

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I start everyone out at 100%. Right now, you are about 60%, based on your vain statements to me.

Anger does not produce the righteousness if God, my friend.

I will disengage you now.
 

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You assert that James was writing to "Those Of The 12 Tribes"

Yes you assert that "Those" are ethnic Jews, and not the entire Church of both Jew/Gentile, and post #58 shows your suggestion is in error

The Church represents James 12 tribes scattered abroad, of both Jew and Gentile

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"You are using his address to define the church as Israel, by pointing to his addressing the 12 tribes. I'm suggesting that he may have actually been writing to those of the 12 tribes who were scattered abroad. Have you considered that?"
This is very interesting! I have been coming to see this myself. The Israel that went into captivity was scattered, per curse of Deut. Throughout the old testament there are prophecys about them being scattered. I believe most Israelites were made up of Hebrews and Jews but my point is Hosea 8:8 along with many verses in Ezek talk about them being scattered. By the blindness the gospel came to gentiles and gentiles were added (but when the fullness of gentiles comes in then their eyes will start being opened) this is how the world is blessed and the children become as the stars. I do believe you are correct that we are counted as tribes. In acts Paul says it is a hope of the 12 tribes, also when Jesus told the Pharisees he was going away they ask him "are you going to the dispersed among the gentiles?" Samaritans were a mixed race and he went to those. In REV we see the 12 tribes again. Look at REV 20! Do you want to see the Lambs wife? then read on about the 12 gates! Then there is EZEK and the measuring of New Jerusalem. Read the end of Ezek 47- the strangers they begot children with also come