Spiritual Warfare

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 4, 2011

Have you noticed all the discussion on these pages about the Holy Spirit, about the person and nature of Christ and even one or two about the Trinity? Somewhere there's a line or two about human eternal destiny too, but what about the incursion of eternity into human experience?

Is there a 'war of spirits' going on within us and around us or is it just Hollywood hype and psychotic mental episodes mistaken for ghostly apparitions?

Psychologists are often employed by TV producers to debunk spiritual experiences, manifestations and even sound Biblical teaching. (Which is why I don't watch the shows any more...) They never mention the psychologists' atheistic predispositions.

Ben Stein, in his documentary Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed provided evidence of the atheistic bias in American academia. Given that this is true, how much intellectual explanation of spiritual activity can we really accept? If our educators and specialists are biased against even a consideration that there is a spiritual influence upon our lives, where can we find authoritative answers and solutions?

The Bible is the obvious answer, but much of it's advice is shrouded in what St. Paul called unbearable meat ( 1Co 3:1&2 ). Many Christian churches barely preach the need for salvation if they do it at all. The most popular messages are situational ethics, the prosperity gospel and personal improvement. Spiritual warfare, healing and the like are subjects relegated to the unhinged and unbalanced. Few address the subject from the pulpit.

What's really going on out there?

Thankful 1 · Apr 4, 2011

[email protected] said:
Have you noticed all the discussion on these pages about the Holy Spirit, about the person and nature of Christ and even one or two about the Trinity? Somewhere there's a line or two about human eternal destiny too, but what about the incursion of eternity into human experience?

Is there a 'war of spirits' going on within us and around us or is it just Hollywood hype and psychotic mental episodes mistaken for ghostly apparitions?

Psychologists are often employed by TV producers to debunk spiritual experiences, manifestations and even sound Biblical teaching. (Which is why I don't watch the shows any more...) They never mention the psychologists' atheistic predispositions.

Ben Stein, in his documentary Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed provided evidence of the atheistic bias in American academia. Given that this is true, how much intellectual explanation of spiritual activity can we really accept? If our educators and specialists are biased against even a consideration that there is a spiritual influence upon our lives, where can we find authoritative answers and solutions?

The Bible is the obvious answer, but much of it's advice is shrouded in what St. Paul called unbearable meat ( 1Co 3:1&2 ). Many Christian churches barely preach the need for salvation if they do it at all. The most popular messages are situational ethics, the prosperity gospel and personal improvement. Spiritual warfare, healing and the like are subjects relegated to the unhinged and unbalanced. Few address the subject from the pulpit.

What's really going on out there?

My job is to give a word, and Jesus has not given memuch insight into why most people don’t listen to him.

Personally I searched and prayed every day for yearsbefore Jesus showed himself to me. Atthe beginning of my ministry, my thinking was that I was in the minority. I believed most people knew God and were ina place that I was only trying to obtain. Over the years I have found very fewthat know God at all.

I heard that in the last times an evil spirit oferror would blind people to the truth. I truly believe that is what is happening at this time.

I know what Jesus has taught me is truth, but only a few can grasp thetruth. People listen to man’s teaching aboutGod and keep being led farther and farther away for God.

Miss Hepburn · Apr 4, 2011

[email protected] said:
What's really going on out there?

I don't know, but I saw Braco.
And there sure is alot of spiritual activity out there.
Don't know him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzMn10Wjm4o

whitestone · Apr 5, 2011

What do you mean by "war of spirits"?
Can you give a scriptural example?

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 7, 2011

whitestone said:
What do you mean by "war of spirits"?
Can you give a scriptural example?

Under the generic subject of 'spiritual warfare', most people focus upon themselves or some sort of spiritual manifestation perceived by humans, but there is a great deal more going on than that.
The Bible is the only western source of material that gives specific and accurate accounts about conflict between spirits.
Along the way, humanity got involved simply because the war came our way.

To begin one must know the playing field. There are three heavens.
The third heaven is the inner sanctum, the dwelling place of God and the throne of the almighty.
The second heaven is the dwelling place of the angels and humans justified before God.
The first heaven is partly spiritual and partly physical. It is that place where the physical universe and eternity co-mingle.
We call it earth, the physical, and the land of the living.

To reference the Biblical pattern for this please study the layout of the tabneracle and the temple in the O.T.
The Holy of Holies is the pattern for the place of the throne of God.
The court of the tabernacle/temple is the place of worship populated by the people of God.
Beyond the main curtain of the tabernacle and the wall of the temple is the outer world. Those who are not God's people are not permitted to the inner (2nd) level and only know of God by rumor and testimony.
To reference the numbering system see (2 Cor 2:12) where St. Paul refers to the highest heaven as #3.

It is important to keep this spiritual geography in mind when discussing and studying spiritual matters such as interactions between the purely spirit and the partly spirit. C.S. Lewis once said that humanity is really a sort of spiritual amphibian, living in the physical world and the spiritual world at the same time.

The great war of the spirits began in either the second or third heaven - sources are not specific and scholars differ on their opinions. Most have determined by logic and observation that it began in the second heaven.

Because of the nature of eternity vs. time the events are not recorded in chronological order in scripture.

For the purposes of our brief discussion the general order of events is as follows:
A great war was fought in a higher heaven.
Satan attempts to seize the throne and authority of the Almighty, but loses - taking approximately 1/3 of the angels with it.
Isaiah 14:9-14 is generally accepted as a description of the motivations of the losers in the spiritual war. Pride.

Revelation 12:7-12 describes the warfare, who was involved, and what happened to the losers.
Satan falls to earth in an aborted attempt to seize the throne of the Almighty.

In Luke 10:18 Jesus says that He witnessed satan being cast out of heaven and falling to earth in an instant - like "lightning" He said.

The book of Revelation narrates a declaration by spiritual entities in a higher heaven. They declare that because satan has fallen to earth there would be a hard time for the living. The war would continue on earth - the first heaven.

The book of Genesis describes the appearance of satan upon earth and it's first theft of human authority. At this point the Biblical narration picks up the involvement of humans in the spiritual war.

The primary motive of satan is to seize power and to be worshipped. It does this by stealing the authority given to man.
Deprived of all authority, humanity then finds itself subject to the whims of entities other than its own will. The human experience of anger and frustration begins because the root cause of these emotions are violation of the will.

Satan, having no authority of its own, begins to rule the earth by means of human authority, which it has stolen.
The ironic thing about all this is that satan is using the very same authority that was given to humanity, and uses it against us.

Battles between spirits are then engaged on our level (the first heaven).
The book of Daniel (Dan 10:1-13) contains a narration on the part of an angelic entity regarding a purely spiritual battle.
The book of Job records several discussions between satan and the Most High.

It's all about authority.

Generally speaking God has all authority, but like all good leaders He chooses to assign or apportion parts of His authority to others; conditionally.

As a general rule, in the physical world God retains all authority over history. Not for nothing is Jesus called the Kings of Kings unconditionally.

As a general rule, man was given authority over nature and himself. When the spiritual war came to earth, humanity lost it's authority over both nature and itself by the usurpation of satan. See the book of Genesis and the garden narration.

God took flesh and appeared upon the earth to engage satan directly and to provide a way to return individual liberty and authority over nature to humanity; conditionally.

The rest of the tale is about what is called the plan of salvation and sanctification; active human participation in the continuing spiritual war upon earth.

The Bible states that there will be a final, but not complete, end of the rule of satan upon the earth at the time of the second coming. Judgment it seems is handed out in sections or pieces, while God delegates authority to angels and man to continue His work in the spaces between His acts of judgment.

....and the struggle goes on....

whitestone · Apr 7, 2011

[email protected] said:
Under the generic subject of 'spiritual warfare', most people focus upon themselves or some sort of spiritual manifestation perceived by humans, but there is a great deal more going on than that.
The Bible is the only western source of material that gives specific and accurate accounts about conflict between spirits.
Along the way, humanity got involved simply because the war came our way.

To begin one must know the playing field. There are three heavens.
The third heaven is the inner sanctum, the dwelling place of God and the throne of the almighty.
The second heaven is the dwelling place of the angels and humans justified before God.
The first heaven is partly spiritual and partly physical. It is that place where the physical universe and eternity co-mingle.
We call it earth, the physical, and the land of the living.

To reference the Biblical pattern for this please study the layout of the tabneracle and the temple in the O.T.
The Holy of Holies is the pattern for the place of the throne of God.
The court of the tabernacle/temple is the place of worship populated by the people of God.
Beyond the main curtain of the tabernacle and the wall of the temple is the outer world. Those who are not God's people are not permitted to the inner (2nd) level and only know of God by rumor and testimony.
To reference the numbering system see (2 Cor 2:12) where St. Paul refers to the highest heaven as #3.

It is important to keep this spiritual geography in mind when discussing and studying spiritual matters such as interactions between the purely spirit and the partly spirit. C.S. Lewis once said that humanity is really a sort of spiritual amphibian, living in the physical world and the spiritual world at the same time.

The great war of the spirits began in either the second or third heaven - sources are not specific and scholars differ on their opinions. Most have determined by logic and observation that it began in the second heaven.

Because of the nature of eternity vs. time the events are not recorded in chronological order in scripture.

For the purposes of our brief discussion the general order of events is as follows:
A great war was fought in a higher heaven.
Satan attempts to seize the throne and authority of the Almighty, but loses - taking approximately 1/3 of the angels with it.
Isaiah 14:9-14 is generally accepted as a description of the motivations of the losers in the spiritual war. Pride.

Revelation 12:7-12 describes the warfare, who was involved, and what happened to the losers.
Satan falls to earth in an aborted attempt to seize the throne of the Almighty.

In Luke 10:18 Jesus says that He witnessed satan being cast out of heaven and falling to earth in an instant - like "lightning" He said.

The book of Revelation narrates a declaration by spiritual entities in a higher heaven. They declare that because satan has fallen to earth there would be a hard time for the living. The war would continue on earth - the first heaven.

The book of Genesis describes the appearance of satan upon earth and it's first theft of human authority. At this point the Biblical narration picks up the involvement of humans in the spiritual war.

The primary motive of satan is to seize power and to be worshipped. It does this by stealing the authority given to man.
Deprived of all authority, humanity then finds itself subject to the whims of entities other than its own will. The human experience of anger and frustration begins because the root cause of these emotions are violation of the will.

Satan, having no authority of its own, begins to rule the earth by means of human authority, which it has stolen.
The ironic thing about all this is that satan is using the very same authority that was given to humanity, and uses it against us.

Battles between spirits are then engaged on our level (the first heaven).
The book of Daniel (Dan 10:1-13) contains a narration on the part of an angelic entity regarding a purely spiritual battle.
The book of Job records several discussions between satan and the Most High.

It's all about authority.

Generally speaking God has all authority, but like all good leaders He chooses to assign or apportion parts of His authority to others; conditionally.

As a general rule, in the physical world God retains all authority over history. Not for nothing is Jesus called the Kings of Kings unconditionally.

As a general rule, man was given authority over nature and himself. When the spiritual war came to earth, humanity lost it's authority over both nature and itself by the usurpation of satan. See the book of Genesis and the garden narration.

God took flesh and appeared upon the earth to engage satan directly and to provide a way to return individual liberty and authority over nature to humanity; conditionally.

The rest of the tale is about what is called the plan of salvation and sanctification; active human participation in the continuing spiritual war upon earth.

The Bible states that there will be a final, but not complete, end of the rule of satan upon the earth at the time of the second coming. Judgment it seems is handed out in sections or pieces, while God delegates authority to angels and man to continue His work in the spaces between His acts of judgment.

....and the struggle goes on....

I've found that the "third heaven" in scriptures is the "most holy place".

I've found in scriptures that the only spiritual warfard that goes on is as Christ in me conquers temptation, sin and death.

I've found in scriptures that the "enemy" is the lusts of my flesh, known as "satan" (adversary) or "diabolos" (sin in the flesh).

I've found in scriptures that the consequences of being mortal are sickness and disease and spiritual wickedness, all leading to death.

I've found in scriptures that the "war" in Heaven was when the Levites and their Pharisee minions seeked to destroy Jesus and His Saints, but that Jesus and His Saints have overcome by the blood of Christ crucified. (the Gospel)

So no, I don't buy into any of the witchcraft superstitions of what you post. Nor do I buy into the "supernatural" ideas of "spiritual war" as you interpret it. Yes I am completely familiar with your teaching and reject them. Depart from that path, it is the wrong way.

An appeal to reconsider teaching doctrines of devils.

In Christ

Thankful 1 said:
My job is to give a word, and Jesus has not given memuch insight into why most people don’t listen to him.

Personally I searched and prayed every day for yearsbefore Jesus showed himself to me. Atthe beginning of my ministry, my thinking was that I was in the minority. I believed most people knew God and were ina place that I was only trying to obtain. Over the years I have found very fewthat know God at all.

I heard that in the last times an evil spirit oferror would blind people to the truth. I truly believe that is what is happening at this time.

I know what Jesus has taught me is truth, but only a few can grasp thetruth. People listen to man’s teaching aboutGod and keep being led farther and farther away for God.

Amen Thankful. So true. That spirit of blindness was rampent in Jesus time and prior. It is as rampant now as ever, more people exist at one time now, more error explodes into being and ruins lives of those who want to know, but are influenced with the wolves dressed in sheeps clothing. Let us seek out our own salvation in fear and trembling, proving all things and holding fast that which is good and rebuking the blind leaders of the blind... all in Love. That is our calling as we preach the Gospel of Jesus, gathering together the elect as we are sent forth in the cloud of witnesses

Blessings in Christ

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 11, 2011

whitestone said:
So no, I don't buy into any of the witchcraft superstitions of what you post. Nor do I buy into the "supernatural" ideas of "spiritual war" as you interpret it. Yes I am completely familiar with your teaching and reject them. Depart from that path, it is the wrong way.

An appeal to reconsider teaching doctrines of devils.

Every statement I made was backed up by scripture and by Biblical principles.
Jesus was also accused of teaching by the authority of satan, so I guess I'm in good company.

It is a common fallacy of those who are self-absorbed to reject any notion of power or principality beyond themselves.
The fact is that ALL the major theologians of the past two millenia have acknowledged the role of spiritual entities in the lives of men.

You have made a few statements which were not backed up by scripture, scholarly reference or legitimate interpretations. You are writing in a vacuum, sir, with nothing but your own opinions stated here.

You're entitled to that, even though they are merely empty words.

Thankful 1 · Apr 11, 2011

[email protected] said:
Every statement I made was backed up by scripture and by Biblical principles.
Jesus was also accused of teaching by the authority of satan, so I guess I'm in good company.

It is a common fallacy of those who are self-absorbed to reject any notion of power or principality beyond themselves.
The fact is that ALL the major theologians of the past two millenia have acknowledged the role of spiritual entities in the lives of men.

You have made a few statements which were not backed up by scripture, scholarly reference or legitimate interpretations. You are writing in a vacuum, sir, with nothing but your own opinions stated here.

You're entitled to that, even though they are merely empty words.

Amen!

(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because thedevil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appearedwas to destroy the devil's work”

(1 Peter 5: 8 –9) “Be self-controlledand alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings.”

whitestone · Apr 11, 2011

[email protected] said:
Every statement I made was backed up by scripture and by Biblical principles.
Jesus was also accused of teaching by the authority of satan, so I guess I'm in good company.

It is a common fallacy of those who are self-absorbed to reject any notion of power or principality beyond themselves.
The fact is that ALL the major theologians of the past two millenia have acknowledged the role of spiritual entities in the lives of men.

You have made a few statements which were not backed up by scripture, scholarly reference or legitimate interpretations. You are writing in a vacuum, sir, with nothing but your own opinions stated here.

You're entitled to that, even though they are merely empty words.

Jesus didn't teach "doctrines of devils" as you are, or else He would have deserved being rebuked.

By the way, it is transparent when you set yourself up to be a victim. I didn't accuse you of teaching by the authority of satan. Nor do I deserve you calling me "self absorbed" or assuming I don't submit to a power beyond myself. Nor do I run to the "masses" of "what everybody else believed for 2000 years" to establish God's Word.

These are false accusations, and definetly come from the enemy.

You quite definetly need to heed this warning from Jesus;

(Luk 6:43) For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

(Luk 6:44) For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

(Luk 6:45) A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

justaname · Apr 11, 2011

I see both sides of this warfare. I have had personal experience dealing with it. I feel both you and Whitestone have valid points.
Read II Cor 10 1 - 6
This explains clearly what Whitestone is speaking of.
What you post rjp has plenty of biblical backing also.
I, as a young fool, opened doors I should have never tampered with (dealings with the occult). It was Jesus Christ who closed those doors for me. I will always give witness to his power over evil spirits.

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 11, 2011

Miss Hepburn said:
I don't know, but I saw Braco.
And there sure is alot of spiritual activity out there.
Don't know him?

I watched the video and it's message.
Let me say without reservation that I KNOW there are spiritual things going on that humanity is completely unaware of, that folks in particular cannot grasp and that small minds refuse to accept.

When a person's body is ravaged with pain they do not ask theological questions. They don't even ask medical questions. They only want it to stop.
When a person's mind is consumed with suffering, they cannot participate in dispassionate debate. They seek only it's end.

There is nothing good about pain and there is nothing noble about suffering.
It simply hurts.

People will do anything to make it stop.
Stop it first. Ask questions later.

Been there. Done that.

It is unacceptable to most (well fed, healthy and self-absorbed) that spiritual power can enter one's body and do things that the person cannot do themselves.
Humanity is supreme in it's tiny universe and in it's lack of vision it suffers.

But that there is something going on, there is no doubt.

justaname said:
I will always give witness to his power over evil spirits.

As do I.

It is not I, but Christ within me that rules and wins the day.

Comm.Arnold · Apr 11, 2011

Oh yeah OP spiritual warfare is huge around us. I can't even go to the grocery store in my town without some demon posessed fool gnashing his teeth at me. I have been attacked in my sleep several times over the past five years Ive seen a few things close up. It is scary and I can't wait until God burns them all up when he destroys the world as we know it. What have you noticed lately ?

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 11, 2011

whitestone said:
I didn't accuse you of teaching by the authority of satan.

You accused me of witchcraft, which is the same. Your memory is conveniently blank at this point.

"The Jews answered and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a demon?
Jesus answered, I have not a demon; but I honor my Father, and ye dishonor me."
Joh 8:48-49

Comm.Arnold said:
Oh yeah OP spiritual warfare is huge around us. I can't even go to the grocery store in my town without some demon posessed fool gnashing his teeth at me. I have been attacked in my sleep several times over the past five years Ive seen a few things close up. It is scary and I can't wait until God burns them all up when he destroys the world as we know it. What have you noticed lately ?

There are times when one simply walks into trouble, as you say. It's rather like taking a stroll in the forest on a sunny day. Without realizing it you may walk into a swarm of insects, all eagerly waiting to make a meal of your flesh.

What starts out as a walk in the park can end up as a duel between God and the unclean spirits of heaven. I too long for the day when these things will be consigned to the flame and the world made clean for those to whom it is given.

I have visited my own grocery store and observed at times great confusion among the people there.
It would be funny if I wasn't aware of the source of it.

Comm.Arnold · Apr 11, 2011

[email protected] said:
There are times when one simply walks into trouble, as you say. It's rather like taking a stroll in the forest on a sunny day. Without realizing it you may walk into a swarm of insects, all eagerly waiting to make a meal of your flesh. What starts out as a walk in the park can end up as a duel between God and the unclean spirits of heaven. I too long for the day when these things will be consigned to the flame and the world made clean for those to whom it is given.

Go to 'End Times Prophecy' section and read May Day - May Day.

B) Well said, so how does one swat the insects so to speak ?

Thankful 1 · Apr 11, 2011

(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”

(1 Peter 5: 8 –9) “Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings.”

Only Satan would benefit from people not believing he exists. Satan will twists scripture to no ends toaccomplish that end.

Jesus is Lord and God, Satan beware!

Only Satan would want people not to believe he exists. The Mafia for years tried to make peoplebelieve it did not exist. What is there to fight if it does not exist?

People twist scripture to have it mean anything they wish it to mean, and Satan has people even twist the Word so as to deny that he exists. I feel sorry for those people.

Satan is out there like a roaring lion waiting to devour the unwary.

Satan can and does place evil thoughts into the mind of a person. When that person takes ownership of those thoughts, and acts on them, then he or she may be drawn away by his or her own lusts.

The Holy Spirit gives one the grace to not take ownership of those evil thoughts.

(Galatians 5:16) “Let meput it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger ofyielding to self-indulgence....”.

Comm.Arnold · Apr 11, 2011

^^^^ Awesome quotes bro !

Sometimes I do forget that other brothers around the world are going through the same stuff.

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 12, 2011

Comm.Arnold said:
B) Well said, so how does one swat the insects so to speak ?

Formula
Some preachers and churches believe that a formula will do the trick.
The best example of formula extraction is the Roman Catholic church's ritual of exorcism. Recitation of prayers and scripture along with a prescribed ceremony are performed by ordained priests according to a very strict pattern. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

The idea isn't so far fetched because roughly the same pattern is employed in protestant churches. Books such as that written by Derek Prince (Spiritual Warfare) and Frank and Ida Mae Hammond (Pigs In The Parlor) suggest similar methodology.

Faith
That which the uninitiated find most efficacious is the simple prayer of faith in Christ. Bottom line is to let Jesus do it.
Unfortunately, most people prefer to rely on someone of greater repute than themselves to do the job.
That's where priests and preachers get involved. In my experience they are useful, but not necessary to exorcise a spirit.

No man has authority over unclean spirits and demons (two different creatures) except it be given to him by Christ. Some think it's automatic upon being saved, but it isn't. It's possible in theory, but not observed in fact. The newly converted are often too focused upon learning and understanding what a committment to Christ means. They are unable to digest the deeper things of spiritual life. The human mind can only process one thing at a time. Additionally, the Lord may not allow it. Would you give the keys to your family car to a ten year old?

Ideology
The biggest stumbling block in understanding 'what's going on out there' is the notion that a born again Christian cannot be involved in heavy spiritual combat. Specifically that a born again Christian cannot be 'possessed' of the devil.
The problem with the actual experience vs. ideological interpretation is the word 'possessed'. It's too misunderstood.

The word or spiritual action of possession goes back to spiritual authority. Review my original post on the subject of authority. There is so much rubbish and baggage associated with the word 'possession' that it has become almost impossible to understand what is really going on if that particular word is used.

Hollywood uses it (that ought to be reason enough to find some other term).
Preachers use it.
Priests use it.
Lawyers use it (possession is 9/10ths of the law).

For the purposes of further discussion about what's really going on, I prefer to substitute the word 'authority' instead of 'possession'. It's much easier to make, argue or understand a point when one is forced to clarify one's vocabulary to others.

For example, protestants are fond of saying that the blood of Jesus will save them. What does that mean, really? What is the spiritual mechanism that enables us to hope for and attain spiritual and physical liberty? Do we simply say the phrase 'the blood of Jesus', like 'abra cadabra' and something happens? Sorry, but it doesn't work like that. The blood is powerful, but only if it's applied properly. Moses commanded the Hebrews to sprinkle lamb's blood on the door posts and lintel of their homes. When the angel of death saw it, it would 'pass over'. Repainting the door wouldn't have done it and hanging out a sign that says "we're the good guys' wouldn't have done it either.

The bottom line, as well as the best policy, is to ask Jesus to do it......but that doesn't always work either. Why? Sometimes He chooses not to.

The time is coming and now is when men must fight for their salvation, from the top of their skin to the bottom of their soul.

The terrors of hell are unleashed upon humanity when men no longer fear it and cease striving to bind it.
The authority and work of satan will return and grow until men learn again the true meaning of hell and damnation.
Blood and death and destruction await. Repent and seek God's mercy while you may, for the end is near.

rjp34652@yahoo.com · Apr 12, 2011

Thankful 1 said:
Only Satan would want people not to believe he exists. The Mafia for years tried to make peoplebelieve it did not exist. What is there to fight if it does not exist?

There is some deep spiritual insight in this statement by Thankful.

whitestone · Apr 12, 2011

[email protected] said:
You accused me of witchcraft, which is the same. Your memory is conveniently blank at this point.

"The Jews answered and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a demon?
Jesus answered, I have not a demon; but I honor my Father, and ye dishonor me."
Joh 8:48-49

I told you to quit preaching your "doctrines of devils". I did NOT accuse you of witchcraft.

Satan is our flesh and all the attributes thereof.

From your flesh, you are teaching doctrines of devils. Fact. You need to get over it.

A word to the wise.

Duckybill · Apr 13, 2011

It's good to know that some of you recognize Satan at work here, denying that he exists or is the major cause of evil in this world. I offer my appreciation to you! Satan's workers are very busy covering his evils. He has many ministers in disguise. Satan's ministers will mock those who uncover his work. We have seen his attempts here.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (NKJV)
[sup]14 [/sup]For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. [sup]15 [/sup]Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

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