Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Truth7t7 · May 26, 2021

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Keraz · May 26, 2021

You have seriously confused and misplaced the end times events.
The Sixth Seal is the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, when He destroys His enemies. The next prophesied event.

Them several years must pass before all the events happen, from Rev 7 until Rev 19:11 comes to pass.
The Final Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15; does not happen until the end of the Millennium.

Truth7t7 · May 26, 2021

Keraz said:
You have seriously confused and misplaced the end times events.
The Sixth Seal is the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, when He destroys His enemies. The next prophesied event.

Them several years must pass before all the events happen, from Rev 7 until Rev 19:11 comes to pass.
The Final Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15; does not happen until the end of the Millennium.

Thanks For The Response Keraz

At The Second Coming, The Lord "Appears", "Reveals" In Fire,The Earth Is Burned At His "Presence"

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation?

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ?

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Keraz · May 26, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation?

The Lord's terrible Day of fiery wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, will kill many but most people will survive. Isaiah 66:15-17

There is no fire mentioned when Jesus Returns. Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:11-21, Zechariah 14:3
Revelation 20:9 happens at the end of the Millennium and also the New heaven and Earth, at that time.

There will be a thousand years of rule by King Jesus. Revelation 20 proves it and that will be Jesus reward, as prophesied. Daniel 7:13-14

Davy · May 27, 2021

Once Lord Jesus returns per Zechariah 14, He will reign over all nations, and that's not God's new heavens and new earth time just yet. The consuming fire of 2 Peter 3:10 on the "day of the Lord" is only to end man's works of this 'present' world off the earth, setting up Christ's "thousand years" reign with the "rod of iron" per Revelation 20.

The temple of Ezekiel, God's River flowing out of the sanctuary, and the tree of life manifesting again in the Holy Land will be a Millennium time event when Jesus returns to reign. After the thousand years that temple will be no more.

Truth7t7 · Sep 21, 2021

Davy said:
Once Lord Jesus returns per Zechariah 14, He will reign over all nations, and that's not God's new heavens and new earth time just yet. The consuming fire of 2 Peter 3:10 on the "day of the Lord" is only to end man's works of this 'present' world off the earth, setting up Christ's "thousand years" reign with the "rod of iron" per Revelation 20.

The temple of Ezekiel, God's River flowing out of the sanctuary, and the tree of life manifesting again in the Holy Land will be a Millennium time event when Jesus returns to reign. After the thousand years that temple will be no more.

Zechariah 14 Represents the (Eternal Kingdom) Not A Millennial Kingdom On Thi Earth

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Truth7t7 · Sep 21, 2021

Davy said:
Once Lord Jesus returns per Zechariah 14, He will reign over all nations, and that's not God's new heavens and new earth time just yet. The consuming fire of 2 Peter 3:10 on the "day of the Lord" is only to end man's works of this 'present' world off the earth, setting up Christ's "thousand years" reign with the "rod of iron" per Revelation 20.

The temple of Ezekiel, God's River flowing out of the sanctuary, and the tree of life manifesting again in the Holy Land will be a Millennium time event when Jesus returns to reign. After the thousand years that temple will be no more.

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Davy · Oct 1, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Zechariah 14 Represents the (Eternal Kingdom) Not A Millennial Kingdom On Thi Earth

Wrong. Zechariah 14 is about the day of Christ's future return with His elect to reign over the nations with the "rod of iron" promised Him, and that He promised those of His that overcome in Him. The 1,000 years reign of Revelation 20 is emphatic, and Apostle Paul also explained the requirement of that reign in the 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 Scripture. Only when the full Godhead gets ready to return to this earth, once Christ has put all enemies under His feet, and the abode the wicked called hell and death goes into the "lake of fire", will the new heavens and a new earth begin.

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

It shows Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord", which represents the final day of this PRESENT WORLD. The 1,000 years reign mentioned in Revelation 20 is not to be bypassed, but is required after that. This is clearly shown by the continued existence of the wicked, as in Revelation 3:9 about those of His enemies, the "synagogue of Satan", being made to come worship Him at the feet of His elect in that future Millennial time. And in Revelation 22:14-15, while the saints have right to the tree of life inside... the gates of the beloved city, the wicked still dwell outside those gates, meaning they are still there in that time, showing the new heavens and new earth is not yet then.

Only once the wicked are destroyed with Satan and hell and death will the new heavens and new earth time come.

stunnedbygrace · Oct 1, 2021

I am not as certain as other men about a lot of it. I have my thoughts based on what I’ve read but I’m not as rabidly certain I understand it all.

Davy · Oct 1, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

You forget the following...

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV

1. Christ's elect are inside the gates of the city (new Jerusalem) and have right to the tree of life.

2. The wicked are still there in that time, outside... the gates of the city.

That is actually hinted at in the Ezekiel 44 Chapter. One in Christ in that future time that had a relative, called the "dead" in that time, are allowed to go their relative, but must go through a ritual purification when they come back into the Millennial temple.

The "dead" in that future time represents spirits of the dead, not flesh dead still in the ground. When Lord Jesus returns, there are no more dead people in graves. All the dead are resurrected on the day of Christ's return per the John 5:28-29 Scripture, and that includes the "resurrection of damnation". The unsaved in that future time will stand in judgment throughout that 1,000 years reign by Christ and His elect with the "rod of iron". That "rod of iron" is NOT meant for Christ's faithful Church. It is meant for the unsaved nations in that future time (Psalms 2; Revelation 2:27; Revelation 19:15).

Truman · Oct 1, 2021

stunnedbygrace said:
I am not as certain as other men about a lot of it. I have my thoughts based on what I’ve read but I’m not as rabidly certain I understand it all.

I think some enjoy arguing, and as it keeps them from harassing me...knock yourselves out!

Davy · Oct 1, 2021

I only debate providing the Scripture evidence that others seem to want to bypass, but that is clearly written in God's Holy Writ.

stunnedbygrace · Oct 1, 2021

Truman · Oct 1, 2021

stunnedbygrace said:
Lol

Lol

Truth7t7 · Oct 1, 2021

Davy said:
Wrong. Zechariah 14 is about the day of Christ's future return with His elect to reign over the nations with the "rod of iron" promised Him, and that He promised those of His that overcome in Him. The 1,000 years reign of Revelation 20 is emphatic, and Apostle Paul also explained the requirement of that reign in the 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 Scripture. Only when the full Godhead gets ready to return to this earth, once Christ has put all enemies under His feet, and the abode the wicked called hell and death goes into the "lake of fire", will the new heavens and a new earth begin.

It shows Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord", which represents the final day of this PRESENT WORLD. The 1,000 years reign mentioned in Revelation 20 is not to be bypassed, but is required after that. This is clearly shown by the continued existence of the wicked, as in Revelation 3:9 about those of His enemies, the "synagogue of Satan", being made to come worship Him at the feet of His elect in that future Millennial time. And in Revelation 22:14-15, while the saints have right to the tree of life inside... the gates of the beloved city, the wicked still dwell outside those gates, meaning they are still there in that time, showing the new heavens and new earth is not yet then.

Only once the wicked are destroyed with Satan and hell and death will the new heavens and new earth time come.

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Truth7t7 · Oct 1, 2021

Davy said:
Wrong. Zechariah 14 is about the day of Christ's future return with His elect to reign over the nations with the "rod of iron" promised Him, and that He promised those of His that overcome in Him. The 1,000 years reign of Revelation 20 is emphatic, and Apostle Paul also explained the requirement of that reign in the 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 Scripture. Only when the full Godhead gets ready to return to this earth, once Christ has put all enemies under His feet, and the abode the wicked called hell and death goes into the "lake of fire", will the new heavens and a new earth begin.

It shows Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord", which represents the final day of this PRESENT WORLD. The 1,000 years reign mentioned in Revelation 20 is not to be bypassed, but is required after that. This is clearly shown by the continued existence of the wicked, as in Revelation 3:9 about those of His enemies, the "synagogue of Satan", being made to come worship Him at the feet of His elect in that future Millennial time. And in Revelation 22:14-15, while the saints have right to the tree of life inside... the gates of the beloved city, the wicked still dwell outside those gates, meaning they are still there in that time, showing the new heavens and new earth is not yet then.

Only once the wicked are destroyed with Satan and hell and death will the new heavens and new earth time come.

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Truth7t7 · Oct 1, 2021

Davy said:
Wrong. Zechariah 14 is about the day of Christ's future return with His elect to reign over the nations with the "rod of iron" promised Him, and that He promised those of His that overcome in Him. The 1,000 years reign of Revelation 20 is emphatic, and Apostle Paul also explained the requirement of that reign in the 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 Scripture. Only when the full Godhead gets ready to return to this earth, once Christ has put all enemies under His feet, and the abode the wicked called hell and death goes into the "lake of fire", will the new heavens and a new earth begin.

It shows Christ's future return on the "day of the Lord", which represents the final day of this PRESENT WORLD. The 1,000 years reign mentioned in Revelation 20 is not to be bypassed, but is required after that. This is clearly shown by the continued existence of the wicked, as in Revelation 3:9 about those of His enemies, the "synagogue of Satan", being made to come worship Him at the feet of His elect in that future Millennial time. And in Revelation 22:14-15, while the saints have right to the tree of life inside... the gates of the beloved city, the wicked still dwell outside those gates, meaning they are still there in that time, showing the new heavens and new earth is not yet then.

Only once the wicked are destroyed with Satan and hell and death will the new heavens and new earth time come.

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation?

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ?

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Truth7t7 · Oct 1, 2021

Davy said:
I only debate providing the Scripture evidence that others seem to want to bypass, but that is clearly written in God's Holy Writ.

That's your "opinion" Davy, there will be no 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth, it's found no place in scripture

Truth7t7 · Oct 1, 2021

stunnedbygrace said:
I am not as certain as other men about a lot of it. I have my thoughts based on what I’ve read but I’m not as rabidly certain I understand it all.

If you have unanswered questions feel free to ask, I will do my best to answer

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Mike Tang 1991 · Oct 1, 2021

Keraz said:
You have seriously confused and misplaced the end times events.
The Sixth Seal is the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, when He destroys His enemies. The next prophesied event.

Them several years must pass before all the events happen, from Rev 7 until Rev 19:11 comes to pass.
The Final Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15; does not happen until the end of the Millennium.

Is Jesus supposed to stay alive for the 1000 years?
Because there is not supposed to be a "Third Coming"

Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

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