Doctrines of Demons???

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Have you recognized any doctrines of demons believed by other forum members that you never knew existed before joining a Christian Forums site? I have. Shocking. I used to be pretty naive of the doctrines of other denominations. But Jesus was right when He said of Sardis, "you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead."

What constitutes a doctrine of demons?

I would say something that nullifies what Jesus came to do, causing skepticism in the words of Jesus, and erase the power and spiritual meaning of His words, and replace them with human reasoning from carnal experience.

The opposite of Jesus' words would be what "itching ears" would want to believe, twisting the harder truth. Itching ears would love darkness so their doctrine of demons would allow them to continue in darkness without condemnation.

Some of the words of Jesus and the apostles being twisted that I've noticed:

John 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

1 John 3:5-9
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

1 John 3:21-24
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

John 8:32-36
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Romans 8:9-10
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Romans 6:1-7
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

And the misapplication of scriptures about Gnostic unbelievers or Old Testament saints onto Christians, and taking verses and chapters out of context of the whole 8 chapter teaching:
1 John 1:6, 8, 10
Romans 7:14-23
Romans 3:9-26
Romans 4:8
Romans 5:12-21
 
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Yes a doctrine of demons would be someone who claims they have been sinless fir longer than Jesus lived as a sinless man on this earth . That would be straight from a demon and not from God.

Also would you say that the teaching from the spirit of antichrist is demonic or satanic in origin? Yes or no
 
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they have been sinless fir longer than Jesus lived as a sinless man on this earth

Where is a scripture that would deny the claim of Jesus to take away our sin and make us sinless? So you are saying that what Jesus said in John 8:32-36 is a doctrine of demons? And also that He did not accomplish what He was manifest to do in taking away our sin. Wouldn't believing the opposite of what Jesus claimed about taking away our sin be believing a doctrine of demons? Are we going to go by our life experience that screams the opposite, or examine ourselves and repent in order to line up with the Word of God Acts 2:38, Romans 8:9; 1 John 3:9; 1 John 5:18. Who are you going to believe? Jesus or the demon?

A spirit of antichrist would believe the opposite of the power of Jesus and what He claims. Anyone who has been cleansed of all their sin and has no more desire to sin and doesn't acknowledge and thank Jesus for it and His power is antichrist.
 
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Any doctrine that can deceive someone into hell is a doctrine of demons..

Paul wrote many warnings about being deceived as believers.

Shalom Aleichem

Exactly! Personally I want to know what God means in His Word, and not what I'd like it to say when I had my carnal nature, so I could do what it wanted.
 

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Is there a difference between doctrines of "demons" (1 Tim 4:1) and doctrines of "men"? Are the doctrines of men more like traditions I wonder? These seem more like those whos consciences became "seared as with a hot iron" Look at all the televangelists out there who have allowed the love of money to replace the Love of God (If indeed they ever did love Him)
So many watch and follow these shysters :(

But that said, I know where you are going with this sister and, believe me...it is not at all something that I have not questioned a million times...
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Is there a difference between doctrines of "demons" (1 Tim 4:1) and doctrines of "men"? Are the doctrines of men more like traditions I wonder? These seem more like those whos consciences became "seared as with a hot iron" Look at all the televangelists out there who have allowed the love of money to replace the Love of God (If indeed they ever did love Him)
So many watch and follow these shysters :(

But that said, I know where you are going with this sister and, believe me...it is not at all something that I have not questioned a million times...
xo

Yes, Nancy, Paul spoke harshly against them in 1 Corinthians 5:11

11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

I agree it fits TV evangelists and "Seed Faith" to a "T". But one thing we may not have thought of is the Old Testament doctrine of tithes. The rich could afford a whole lot more than 10%, and the poor need to be helped by the rich.
 
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I was pretty naive of the doctrines of other denominations.

What constitutes a doctrine of demons?
Drugs, Delusions, and Doctrines of Demons come together in a heady mix of blasphemous claims that fuel the ambitions of the Whore of Babylon and the Beast she rides on.

Check this out, if you haven't already. I've seen the doco twice now.

The Family (Australian New Age group) - Wikipedia

The Family teaches an eclectic mixture of Christianity and Hinduism with other Eastern and Western religions on the principle that spiritual truths are universal.[3][page needed] The children studied the major scriptures of these religions and also the works of fashionable gurus including Sri Chinmoy, Meher Baba, and Rajneesh.[4][page needed] The group has an inner circle who justify their actions by their claim to be reincarnations of the Apostles of Jesus.[5]

The basis of The Family's philosophy was that Hamilton-Byrne was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and a living god. Jesus was said to be a great master who came down to Earth, and the group believed that Buddha and Krishna were other enlightened beings who similarly came down to help humanity. Hamilton-Byrne was regarded as being in the same category as these teachers. One adopted daughter, Sarah Hamilton-Byrne, later described the group's beliefs as a "hotch-potch" of Christianity and Eastern mysticism.[6]

The Cult of The Family – A three-part documentary series
 
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What constitutes a doctrine of demons?
Whatever subverts Bible Christianity is a doctrine of demons. So unless you know what Bible Christianity is, you will not be able to discern the lies of Satan. Today, we have a whole host of false teachers and false prophets promoting these lies. But too many denominations have also turned away from Bible and Gospel truth. And man-made doctrines ultimately originate with Satan and his demons. The doctrines of men are teachings which attempt to replace the teachings of the Bible.
 

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Personally I want to know what God means in His Word, and not what I'd like it to say when I had my carnal nature, so I could do what it wanted.
And yet you have presented many false teachings on this forum. So if you are really serious, you will abandon them, rather than double-down on them. The tendency for most people is to cling tightly to their errors instead of honestly admitting that they are errors.
 

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What constitutes a doctrine of demons?
What constitutes a doctrine of demons is a doctrinal teaching that is literally fueled in a person by the activity of a lying demonic spirit. A person can be wrong about something just because they don't know any better. But when a person believes something wrong because they are under the seductive power of a lying spirit, that's a different matter all together. I'm of the opinion that when you're dealing with someone who has a stubbornly held belief that refuses all correction or discussion in the face of compelling scripture you're dealing with a doctrine of demons. Doctrines of demons make people irrational and resistant to their beliefs being examined on the basis of scriptural reasoning.
 

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And yet you have presented many false teachings on this forum. So if you are really serious, you will abandon them, rather than double-down on them. The tendency for most people is to cling tightly to their errors instead of honestly admitting that they are errors.

I teach what Jesus came to actually do - take away our sin nature. Unfortunately, those who don't believe Jesus think I'm teaching error. That's one of the things I've noticed and prompted me to make this post on what a demon's mission is against what Jesus accomplished on the cross. Unbelief.
 
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What constitutes a doctrine of demons is a doctrinal teaching that is literally fueled in a person by the activity of a lying demonic spirit. A person can be wrong about something just because they don't know any better. But when a person believes something wrong because they are under the seductive power of a lying spirit, that's a different matter all together. I'm of the opinion that when you're dealing with someone who has a stubbornly held belief that refuses all correction or discussion in the face of compelling scripture you're dealing with a doctrine of demons. Doctrines of demons make people irrational and resistant to their beliefs being examined on the basis of scriptural reasoning.

The foundation of our beliefs have to be what Jesus said. Demons tell us they can't be true.
 

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Yes, Nancy, Paul spoke harshly against them in 1 Corinthians 5:11

11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

I agree it fits TV evangelists and "Seed Faith" to a "T". But one thing we may not have thought of is the Old Testament doctrine of tithes. The rich could afford a whole lot more than 10%, and the poor need to be helped by the rich.


Good point! I think under the new testament we give as we feel led to give or are able to give, if I understand it correctly ?.
 

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I teach what Jesus came to actually do - take away our sin nature. Unfortunately, those who don't believe Jesus think I'm teaching error. That's one of the things I've noticed and prompted me to make this post on what a demon's mission is against what Jesus accomplished on the cross. Unbelief.

Yes. so many try to add things to the simple doctrine of the cross
 

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Yes. so many try to add things to the simple doctrine of the cross

This is what happens when someone is devoid of the Holy Spirit and has been brainwashed by doctrines of demons:

1 Corinthians 2:10-16
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
 

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Yes a doctrine of demons would be someone who claims they have been sinless fir longer than Jesus lived as a sinless man on this earth . That would be straight from a demon and not from God.

Also would you say that the teaching from the spirit of antichrist is demonic or satanic in origin? Yes or no


Sinless perfection is probably a heresy but could well also be demonic

Being born again is more like we start on a journey of becoming more like Jesus . It is a process. We sin less. But we are in a fallen world and if we were able to never ever sin again we wouldn't have needed a saviour.we will only be spotless from sin in heaven
 

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But one thing we may not have thought of is the Old Testament doctrine of tithes.
What year of the tithe are we in?

"22You must be sure to set aside a tenth of all the produce brought forth each year from your fields. 23And you are to eat a tenth of your grain, new wine, and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks, in the presence of the LORD your God at the place He will choose as a dwelling for His Name, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.24But if the distance is too great for you to carry that with which the LORD your God has blessed you, because the place where the LORD your God will choose to put His Name is too far away, 25then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household. 27And do not neglect the Levite within your gates, since he has no portion or inheritance among you.28At the end of every three years, bring a tenth of all your produce for that year and lay it up within your gates. 29Then the Levite (because he has no portion or inheritance among you), the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied." Deuteronomy 14:22-29
I need to know whether this is a year in which I eat my tithe, or the year I bring it to the storehouse for the alien, the orphan, the widow, and the Levite. I'll ask Kenneth Copeland. I'm confident that he'll tell me the answer to that.
 
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Any doctrine that can deceive someone into hell is a doctrine of demons..

Paul wrote many warnings about being deceived as believers.

Shalom Aleichem
I see the expression being used as a personal weapon, so like always, I like to let the Scriptures tell us what these are.

Otherwise, I can just say to someone, "your doctrine of . . . is a doctrine of demons!! I just know it!" And what is the use of that? Just one more ad hominem to the already overpopulated list?

But I believe most will be happy to just make it inclusive of whatever they want.

Much love!