Victorian Earthquake 5.9 magnitude

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Both Job and his friends thought it was God giving him a hard time. Job couldn't understand why and his friends blamed Job accusing him by implying he had concealed sins.
What we however know that Job and his friends didn't is that the afflictions were caused by Satan not God.

Today we see calamities and we assume that God is behind them.....that is how much we know what God is really like! .....even though we are familiar with Jesus.

Im currently reading the book of Job... I find it heard to read cos its almost like a play with characters always talking
I don't understand why God allowed Satan to do all that to Job...
And in the grander picture why does God let Satan do what he does...
 
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Im currently reading the book of Job... I find it heard to read cos its almost like a play with characters always talking
I don't understand why God allowed Satan to do all that to Job...
And in the grander picture why does God let Satan do what he does...
The question is Cristo, does God and Satan do deals with each other as portrayed in the first chapters of Job. Personally I doubt it.
There is also the line of thinking that the first few chapters of Job were added by another Author as the literary style is slightly different.
Also there is the idea floating around that the story of Job was just a story ie, not factual but instead there to teach certain lessons or make certain points similar to stories which Jesus told like the rich man and Lazarus.
 

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Both Job and his friends thought it was God giving him a hard time. Job couldn't understand why and his friends blamed Job accusing him by implying he had concealed sins.
What we however know that Job and his friends didn't is that the afflictions were caused by Satan not God.

Today we see calamities and we assume that God is behind them.....that is how much we know what God is really like! .....even though we are familiar with Jesus.

Also was going to say, God does allow certain things to happen, only He really knows the reasons.

But we are reminded about Romans 8:28
"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."
 

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Also was going to say, God does allow certain things to happen, only He really knows the reasons though.

But we are reminded about Romans 8:28
"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."
1 John tells us that in him (God) is no darkness at all.
 
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Also was going to say, God does allow certain things to happen, only He really knows the reasons.

Just trying to type this out correctly, don't know how to word it, but there are also certain people, like His prophets, that God may reveal to them too, that know the reasons.
 

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@quietthinker

There are certain things that are definitely hard to explain, for example, why does someone's baby die before birth in a miscarriage, etc.

There could be a number of reasons these things happening, I guess.
 

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I tend to agree with Josho.. Pain, suffering, evil...
It must be beyond the understanding of our limited minds...

I used to think that the evil one was behind all the pain and suffering but Jesus was once asked why a man was cripple and his reply was not that it was Satan or any kind of punishment but that Gods work cab be seen in him which i don't really understand
 

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I tend to agree with Josho.. Pain, suffering, evil...
It must be beyond the understanding of our limited minds...

I used to think that the evil one was behind all the pain and suffering but Jesus was once asked why a man was cripple and his reply was not that it was Satan or any kind of punishment but that Gods work cab be seen in him which i don't really understand
Adam sold out to the enemy. He is the ruler of this world and we continue to give him permission. We push God away and are left to the master of our choice. Were it not for Gods protection at various junctures we would long be destroyed.
 

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@Cristo Rei here is the thread, not too many reports of building damage.

Have not seen pictures of any other damage except for the Chapel Street building so far, biggest quake in 200 years for Victoria they reckon. And the biggest quake in Australia since 1997.

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There has now been 1700+ insurance claims after this earthquake, only a few of the claims are significant.
 

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Update, the aftershocks are still happening, there have been reports some people felt some tremors at 2:30am this morning and 7am. I think I was sleeping. :pScreenshot_2021-09-25-12-12-02-23.png
 

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There are certain things that are definitely hard to explain, for example, why does someone's baby die before birth in a miscarriage, etc.

There could be a number of reasons these things happening, I guess.
We have inherited death from Adam. God did not create us with death in our Genes.
Death is the result of sin....plants, animals and babies die....they have not sinned yet they are subject to diminishment (death)
 

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....and God knows that all born after Adam are at a disadvantage. His long-suffering is testimony to this.
How does he fix it? He gives us another head, another representative .....he himself condescends and becomes as one of us. We kill him; that's how poorly we understand/see yet he allows this.....he suffers long and is resurrected....for us; each single one of us. He is our new head, our new representative. see Romans 5.
This is the good news the angels on Bethlehems hills sang of....good news for all men....none excluded!
This in essence is the Kingdom of God. This is the revealing of God's Character in its fullness. Can we believe it? Will we believe it?
 

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Here you go Josh... Just for you... Edited from a soviet poster of Joseph Stalin... U know the dictator with the mean mustache

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I don't understand the language
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Ah i do... Its in Portuguese... :)... I'll do my best to translate it
But u can make out from the pictures that what she is telling us isn't good news

The volcano which has been going for 5 days has gotten worse in recent hours she says
There has been more lava, more ash clouds but no more deaths in the last 24 hours
Three towns ordered to abandon everything
A new cloud of volcanic ash 6,000 meters high has been
The lava has destroyed 400 offices in La Palma and many more houses where people lived
180 hectares of farmland was destroyed in a small island that relies on it
Pedro Sanchez (maybe the Spanish president) has sent over more aid
 
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