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Josho

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2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

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Yeah exactly, "in which righteousness dwells."

I think "New World Order" is not the correct term to describe the beast and the symbology of the beast.

Because it's not a new world, the new world is the New Jerusalem, the new world is Heaven.
 

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Yeah exactly, "in which righteousness dwells."

I think "New World Order" is not the correct term to describe the beast and the symbology of the beast.

Because it's not a new world, the new world is the New Jerusalem, the new world is Heaven.
So you think the NWO is God's kingdom to come?
 

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So you think the NWO is God's kingdom to come?
What is a cliché?

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What is a cliché?

Definition of cliché
(ˈkliːʃeɪ)

n
1. (Linguistics) a word or expression that has lost much of its force through overexposure, as for example the phrase: it's got to get worse before it gets better.
2. an idea, action, or habit that has become trite from overuse
3.
(Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) printing chiefly Brit a stereotype or electrotype plate
[C19: from French, from clicher to stereotype; imitative of the sound made by the matrix when it is dropped into molten metal]
ˈclichéd, ˈcliché'd adj
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I know what a cliche is. I wasn't stumped.
 

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New world order is something that is deeply rooted in history. Not sure where the source of the starting of this term arose from.

There was a friend of mine early before ever knowing the Bible or much of God and Jesus.

That one day a power would come up in a new world government would arise and people no matter who they were would one day be brought together into a circle ⭕️ that a person would be brought from the crowd say a family member of someone and they would force some other family member to take a mark while watching this other family member be tortured. Unless they take the mark they would be killed.

That was something we would chat about on random nights if we were up hanging out. Though I never understood the Bible. When it comes to that now; a new world order?

To me God has reconciled the World unto himself through Christ Jesus paying for the price of Sin; an a believer is able to experience the world in a new way by the spirit. In my view.

I could be wrong,
With love in Christ,
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The New World Order is the One World Government that is spoken OF, not named, in Revelation and Daniel.

This system is already well under way and mostly established.

Those who don't want Christians to believe the Tribulation period is anywhere close will deny this reality. The Pre-Trib Rapture is part of the illusion to keep people from seeing the Tribulation period unfold so that there is not a mass revival of the Christian faith. The enemies of Christ do not want that.

Pre-Trib Rapture allows people to believe there will be a final warning that can't be denied when masses of people start disappearing at once. This would give them a SECOND CHANCE, or last chance, to get right with God.

That final warning will never come.
 

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The New World Order is the One World Government that is spoken OF, not named, in Revelation and Daniel.

This system is already well under way and mostly established.

Those who don't want Christians to believe the Tribulation period is anywhere close will deny this reality. The Pre-Trib Rapture is part of the illusion to keep people from seeing the Tribulation period unfold so that there is not a mass revival of the Christian faith. The enemies of Christ do not want that.

Pre-Trib Rapture allows people to believe there will be a final warning that can't be denied when masses of people start disappearing at once. This would give them a SECOND CHANCE, or last chance, to get right with God.

That final warning will never come.

Is it a "New World Order " though??

I don't agree that it's the correct phrasing in what it refers to.

Because we read.....

1 Corinthians 14:33
"For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people."

1 Corinthians 14:40
"But all things should be done decently and in order."

What is the world sinking into right now? Is it order? No it's disorder, rebellion and lawlessness..
 

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Is it a "New World Order " though??

I don't agree that it's the correct phrasing in what it refers to.

Because we read.....

1 Corinthians 14:33
"For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people."

1 Corinthians 14:40
"But all things should be done decently and in order."

What is the world sinking into right now? Is it order? No it's disorder, rebellion and lawlessness..

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Not sure why you are tagging me Josho.... LOL

My opinion on New World Order is the coming together of all governments all over the world under ONE order and ONE currency.
I believe the Catholic church will play a huge part in this. I don't understand what exactly it will look like... but this will be achieved by all the countries economies CRASHING... and it will initially come under the guise of coming together as nation helping nation.

It's an agenda Josho.... Your vision is too short sighted...
 
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Not sure why you are tagging me Josho.... LOL

My opinion on New World Order is the coming together of all governments all over the world under ONE order and ONE currency.
I believe the Catholic church will play a huge part in this. I don't understand what exactly it will look like... but this will be achieved by all the countries economies CRASHING... and it will initially come under the guise of coming together as nation helping nation.

It's an agenda Josho.... Your vision is too short sighted...

I think your spot on...
Should we then resist such agenda?
 

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Should we then resist such agenda?
Too late for that Cristo... we should get right with God and prepare to suffer with many losses of what used to be our rights.
It's time to learn a different way to live... GONE are the good old days... they are no more and not coming back...
The Christians are going to have to come together... and begin to help each other and rely on each other... It's going to get
really bad...

Rather than fight the agenda... I say RISE ABOVE it with GOD.
 

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Not sure why you are tagging me Josho.... LOL

My opinion on New World Order is the coming together of all governments all over the world under ONE order and ONE currency.
I believe the Catholic church will play a huge part in this. I don't understand what exactly it will look like... but this will be achieved by all the countries economies CRASHING... and it will initially come under the guise of coming together as nation helping nation.

It's an agenda Josho.... Your vision is too short sighted...

My understanding is if our God is the God of order, order does not belong to Satan.

We hear of abortions being normalized, we hear of euthanasia being normalized, we hear of transgenderism being normalized, etc.

That is not order, that is disorder...

The days of Sodom and Gomorrah were disorderly....

The days of Noah were disorderly......

When the Israelites turned their backs on God, they were disorderly....
 
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Too late for that Cristo... we should get right with God and prepare to suffer with many losses of what used to be our rights.
It's time to learn a different way to live... GONE are the good old days... they are no more and not coming back...
The Christians are going to have to come together... and begin to help each other and rely on each other... It's going to get
really bad...

Rather than fight the agenda... I say RISE ABOVE it with GOD.

Thats where we disagree

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world
Ephesians 6:12
 

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Thats where we disagree

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world
Ephesians 6:12

Pauly, from what I believe, this verse does not refer to "human beings"

What I believe, this verse refers to the "supernatural powers of darkness."
 

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You ain't seen NOTHING yet Josho... we are at the very BEGINNING of this change...
Things are going to get increasingly sorrowful and difficult for a great many people ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
Chaos is rising.... violence is rising... natural disasters are rising... and will only get worse.
The world will be PROMISED a NEW world order to take care of all these things ( that will be the big LIE ).

ONLY GOD and those who choose to drop their worldly swords of fighting each other are going to be able to escape and survive.

It is crucially important for people to be dealing with their debt.... those who have lived above their means will suffer greatly and many will lose EVERYTHING.... the world is CRASHING... and it's snowballing....

Time to learn how to live in a world with no luxuries. I have been slowly preparing these last two years... I saw this coming... the bible tells us it is coming.
 

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Thats where we disagree
I am aware that this is where we disagree... I think fighting is an absolute waste of time... and energy.
but I do understand that many are thinking this is the way to change.

When is it time to lay down your sword?? God is calling His children to come to Him NOW... He wants to prepare his church.
 

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What I believe, this verse refers to the "supernatural powers of darkness."
These supernatural forces do indeed live in some human beings... but you are also playing to the powers that are already established.
The likes of plans conjured up by evil and powerful men. These evil plans are hidden in the highest and richest of secret societies.
Again... I will stress that the Catholic church is the headquarters for all this evil. I am not saying the anti Christ is the pope... or any Catholic authority... but they are definitely in the forefront of this EVIL agenda which is to be called the New World Order.
 

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You ain't seen NOTHING yet Josho... we are at the very BEGINNING of this change...
Things are going to get increasingly sorrowful and difficult for a great many people ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
Chaos is rising.... violence is rising... natural disasters are rising... and will only get worse.
The world will be PROMISED a NEW world order to take care of all these things ( that will be the big LIE ).

ONLY GOD and those who choose to drop their worldly swords of fighting each other are going to be able to escape and survive.

It is crucially important for people to be dealing with their debt.... those who have lived above their means will suffer greatly and many will lose EVERYTHING.... the world is CRASHING... and it's snowballing....

Time to learn how to live in a world with no luxuries. I have been slowly preparing these last two years... I saw this coming... the bible tells us it is coming.

Resistance is futile and deep down i know this... Its why ive been monk training after all... I know that persecution is near and to be honest, im afraid. I dont want to go to prison but if they send me there then so be it, i can cope with it while im there

I don't know... I just have this fire in my belly to oppose the evil one and fight against him...
I can't stand seeing him do his evil deeds and i wish i could slay him
But we aren't called to fight... Just to stand strong against the evil one... Its defensive, not offensive...

Im still bitter at our normal lives and freedom being taken away but i think God has conditioned me to survive the coming detestation so long as i can keep my mind together

Backlit reminds me as well... It is written... Christ told us...These things must come to pass
Have to be strong and prepare cos its going to get worse... Much much worse