The Church is not prepared for what is to come.

Truth7t7 · Sep 24, 2021

Ferris Bueller said:
it's very clear to me, now, as I thought then that Trump did not seize the nation from destruction with the military because he knew the military was compromised (i.e. Milley). He knew he would not have the full backing of the military.

Milley changed colors with the new admin, I disagree with your claims

The Military went in and slammed ISIS, and fully supported Trump for the most part, Milley is the great pretender trying to survive

Was he a best choice for Trump "No" the same would apply to 50%+ of his admin that turned out to be barnyard full of RINO'S

liafailrock · Sep 24, 2021

Keraz said:
The faithful Christian peoples will not experience the Wrath of God.

I know that you believe the Church will be raptured to heaven before the Great Tribulation of God's wrath.
It just isn't to heaven.
Those who have kept their faith will be taken to a place of safety on earth for that 1260 days, Revelation 12:14
A kind of a 'rapture' - without any change to our mortal bodies. Then they will again experience a kind of rapture when Jesus Returns and they are gathered to Him. Matthew 24:30-31, 1 Thess 4:17

But this doesn't happen until we Christians are all living in all of the holy Land. Which will happen soon after all that area is cleared and cleansed by the Sixth Seal devastation. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Rev 6:12-17,+

Maybe what you say describes my longing lately to live in Israel, or at least what it would be like. Yes, the end times are coming -- not only the signs, but various people's desires to get back to their heritage.

Oseas · Sep 24, 2021

liafailrock said:
Maybe what you say describes my longing lately to live in Israel, or at least what it would be like. Yes, the end times are coming -- not only the signs, but various people's desires to get back to their heritage.

The Day of Christ arrived, that is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, the millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, therefore, the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ is at hand, it is nearest, He is already at door. By analogy, He is at the elevator door ready to descend and reign forever, according to the present message: Revelation 11:v.15:
The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD (world of Devil) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

WAR EFFECTS

Revelation 11:v.18
18 And the nations will be angry, and GOD's wrath comes, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

Get ready

Taken · Sep 24, 2021

Keraz said:
The faithful Christian peoples will not experience the Wrath of God.

I know that you believe the Church will be raptured to heaven before the Great Tribulation of God's wrath.
It just isn't to heaven.
Those who have kept their faith will be taken to a place of safety on earth for that 1260 days, Revelation 12:14
A kind of a 'rapture' - without any change to our mortal bodies. Then they will again experience a kind of rapture when Jesus Returns and they are gathered to Him. Matthew 24:30-31, 1 Thess 4:17

But this doesn't happen until we Christians are all living in all of the holy Land. Which will happen soon after all that area is cleared and cleansed by the Sixth Seal devastation. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Rev 6:12-17,+

What exactly do you believe the Heaven(S) are?

Oseas · Sep 24, 2021

Revelation 2:v.24 to 29

24 But unto you I say,...

25 ... that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

28 And I will give him the morning star.

29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Earburner · Sep 24, 2021

David H. said:
The Lord put this on my heart as i was trying to fall asleep, so in obedience I am writing this post. Use Discernment.

What we are seeing come to fruition in this country and around the world is a registry of all the people who will not comply with mandates of the One world government. This is leading to concepts such as "vaccination passports" Which are really no different than the registry of Jews in Nazi Germany.

Watch the Project Veritas video in the link to see this.
FDA Official Says Use 'Nazi' Type Registry of Unvaxxed Americans: 'Like the Jewish Star' - Video Report (westernjournal.com)

This is all leading up to the mark of the beast.

The church is not prepared to face this.... there are those who doubt they will have to worry about the MOB.... those who outright deny this is the MOB..... those who do not fully trust in the providence of God..... those who will be so concerned with their wealth and prosperity that they will not think twice....

They control the media, they control the Medical establishment, they control the educational system, They control the militaries, they control the legal system, they control the travel, They control most religious organization.... There is no avoiding this, there is no hiding from it, You will soon lose all your rights and freedoms if you do not comply. But if you do, you will be able to live normally.... this is the seduction of the mark of the beast, and many will fall into it. An outcast is what we will become, an outcast denied basic human rights, food, clothing, housing, medical care. The Only Place for the outcast is the wilderness. It is there we will discover the providence of God, Just as Israel did after forty years there and entered the promised land.

So all encompassing this system will be that many will choose to worship the beast saying;
"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (Revelation 13:4)

Even those who sit in the pews, for they will be so seduced by what is to come.

Pray, get into the Word of God, seek His Providence, Repent. We are on the edge of cliff, are you ready to take the leap of faith, or will you fall to the sea below and drown?

AMEN!! All of what you have said has been on my heart. I too have had the same thoughts, and have also come to the same conclusion. We are right in the middle of the goats being separated from the sheep-
"The vaxed vs. The unvaxed". The MoB is not far behind, which will finally do it.
The "religious" mumbo-jumbo of popular church-ianity is not anywhere near that of which is now happening. Many are in a state of denial, even to the point of "scoffing".
2 Peter 3[3] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[4] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
[5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
[6] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
[7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Earburner · Sep 24, 2021

^ As the water covered and destroyed the world of Noah's day, please take note that the water was not just only in the form of "rain", but was also from the depths of the earth. The same shallhold true in the day of Jesus' Glorious return IN FLAMING FIRE.
A mini "Lake of Fire", La Palma Spain.
In conjunction with 2 Thes. 1:7-10 and 2 Peter 3:1-13, when Jesus returns "in
flaming fire", sit back and envision the following video of a real Lava flow,

amigo de christo · Sep 24, 2021

marks said:
Stand at the ways, and look, and see, and ask for the ancient way, the good way, walk in that!

The most ancient way, was when God walked with Man in the garden. Our way is the way of trust and love. Fellowship in innocence.

Much love!

There is one one way , AND HE ALONE IS ANCIENT . ANCIENT OF DAYS . HE was before even the world was ......
And HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST . This might sound blasphemous to some , BUT IT IS THE TRUTH .
Even before Abraham was , HE IS . That is the one name that saves and the only name that does save .
IN HIM , IN HE ALONE is all the lambs do need . Yes indeed . Now let all that has breath , JUST PRAISE THE GLORIOUS LORD .

Oseas · Sep 24, 2021

amigo de christo said:
There is one one way , AND HE ALONE IS ANCIENT . ANCIENT OF DAYS . HE was before even the world was ......
And HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST . This might sound blasphemous to some , BUT IT IS THE TRUTH .
Even before Abraham was , HE IS . That is the one name that saves and the only name that does save .
IN HIM , IN HE ALONE is all the lambs do need . Yes indeed . Now let all that has breath , JUST PRAISE THE GLORIOUS LORD .

Yes. Acts 4:v.10-12
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom GOD raised from the dead, even by Him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

The Word is GOD. The NAME of the Word-I mean GOD- is JESUS, the Word made flesh, reason by which JESUS said in His prayer to the Father - the Word : John 17:v.6: - I have manifested thy NAME unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. What's the NAME of GOD was manifested? JESUS. 1John 5:v.19-20 - 19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true GOD, and eternal life.

Oseas · Sep 24, 2021

Earburner said:
^ As the water covered and destroyed the world of Noah's day, please take note that the water was not just only in the form of "rain", but was also from the depths of the earth. The same shallhold true in the day of Jesus' Glorious return IN FLAMING FIRE.
A mini "Lake of Fire", La Palma Spain.
In conjunction with 2 Thes. 1:7-10 and 2 Peter 3:1-13, when Jesus returns "in flaming fire", sit back and envision the following video of a real Lava flow,

2 Thessalonians 1:v.7 to 12
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be REVEALED from heaven with His mighty angels, (the true believers - Matthew 11:v. 27 and Luke 20:v.35-36)

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints ((the true believers - Matthew 11:v. 27 and Luke 20:v.35-36) , and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. - (The LORD's Day - that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, the millennium of Vengeance, the millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ.)

11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of His goodness, and the work of faith with power:

12 That the NAME of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in Him, according to the grace of our GOD and the Lord Jesus Christ.

David H. · Sep 24, 2021

stunnedbygrace said:
Looking for a little clarification here. You think this jab is the mark? You think it isn’t, but is a test run? And if you do think it is the mark, how do you look at the forehead or right hand in relation to it?

The jab is not the mark, but is leading to the mark. The registry, and compliance will likely be ID'd using some sort of nano marker on the individual in the palm or the head... Some say RFID Chips, but the technology is way past that now. Look up internet of things and the Electronic health registry (EHR).

How many of you are already part of these things?

Oseas · Sep 24, 2021

John 7:v. 37 to 44

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast (again: we entered in another last day, now the LORD's Day), Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Spirit was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.

41 Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?

42 Hath not the Scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

43 So there was a division among the people because of Him.

44 And some of them would have taken Him; but no man laid hands on Him.

Earburner · Sep 24, 2021

Oseas said:
2 Thessalonians 1:v.7 to 12
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be REVEALED from heaven with His mighty angels, (the true believers - Matthew 11:v. 27 and Luke 20:v.35-36)

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints ((the true believers - Matthew 11:v. 27 and Luke 20:v.35-36) , and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. - (The LORD's Day - that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, the millennium of Vengeance, the millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ.)

11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of His goodness, and the work of faith with power:

12 That the NAME of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in Him, according to the grace of our GOD and the Lord Jesus Christ.

You and many others who hold to the belief systems of "church-ianity" are in for a terrible rude awakening, and will not escape.

As for "flaming fire" please notice my quoted words in the following verse, "same day" and "revealed":

Flaming Fire- Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Now compare that with 2 Thes. 1:7-10, paying particuliar attention to the word "when":
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
[10] WHEN he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that [same] day.
Q. When is when?
A. When Jesus is revealed from Heaven....in flaming fire...
When He shall come to be Glorified in His saints....
See Luke 17:29-30 again.

quietthinker · Sep 25, 2021

liafailrock said:
Maybe what you say describes my longing lately to live in Israel, or at least what it would be like. Yes, the end times are coming -- not only the signs, but various people's desires to get back to their heritage.

Israel is a smokescreen....a diversion. The people in the geography of Israel are just as subject to deception as any other nation.

quietthinker · Sep 25, 2021

David H. said:
The jab is not the mark, but is leading to the mark. The registry, and compliance will likely be ID'd using some sort of nano marker on the individual in the palm or the head... Some say RFID Chips, but the technology is way past that now. Look up internet of things and the Electronic health registry (EHR).

How many of you are already part of these things?

How you think determines your choices and how you behave.
Forehead = how you think....what you believe....who you believe in
Right hand = the manifestation of priorities and how you behave.

Ferris Bueller · Sep 25, 2021

quietthinker said:
How you think determines your choices and how you behave.
Forehead = how you think....what you believe....who you believe in
Right hand = the manifestation of priorities and how you behave.

Yes, and I think this is consistent with how OT prophets portray it. But I would not discount the literal fulfillment of the mark altogether.

Keraz · Sep 25, 2021

Taken said:
What exactly do you believe the Heaven(S) are?

The heavens is our atmosphere and outer space.
Heaven is God's spiritual place. It could be anywhere and everywhere.

Truth7t7 · Sep 25, 2021

liafailrock said:
Maybe what you say describes my longing lately to live in Israel, or at least what it would be like. Yes, the end times are coming -- not only the signs, but various people's desires to get back to their heritage.

The word is, stay clear of Iarael, God is looking for wrath, 2/3 of the people will be cut off and die Zechariah 13:8-9

North Korea would be more favorable on earth, not toooo many plane tickets sold to that destination

BarneyFife · Sep 25, 2021

David H. said:
The Lord put this on my heart as i was trying to fall asleep, so in obedience I am writing this post. Use Discernment.

What we are seeing come to fruition in this country and around the world is a registry of all the people who will not comply with mandates of the One world government. This is leading to concepts such as "vaccination passports" Which are really no different than the registry of Jews in Nazi Germany.

Watch the Project Veritas video in the link to see this.
FDA Official Says Use 'Nazi' Type Registry of Unvaxxed Americans: 'Like the Jewish Star' - Video Report (westernjournal.com)

This is all leading up to the mark of the beast.

The church is not prepared to face this.... there are those who doubt they will have to worry about the MOB.... those who outright deny this is the MOB..... those who do not fully trust in the providence of God..... those who will be so concerned with their wealth and prosperity that they will not think twice....

They control the media, they control the Medical establishment, they control the educational system, They control the militaries, they control the legal system, they control the travel, They control most religious organization.... There is no avoiding this, there is no hiding from it, You will soon lose all your rights and freedoms if you do not comply. But if you do, you will be able to live normally.... this is the seduction of the mark of the beast, and many will fall into it. An outcast is what we will become, an outcast denied basic human rights, food, clothing, housing, medical care. The Only Place for the outcast is the wilderness. It is there we will discover the providence of God, Just as Israel did after forty years there and entered the promised land.

So all encompassing this system will be that many will choose to worship the beast saying;
"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (Revelation 13:4)

Even those who sit in the pews, for they will be so seduced by what is to come.

Pray, get into the Word of God, seek His Providence, Repent. We are on the edge of cliff, are you ready to take the leap of faith, or will you fall to the sea below and drown?

The registry is already complete. It is called Smart Technology. It is everywhere. They know where we are all the time. Including even Richard Stallman. lol - They know when we open and close our garage doors, turn our porch lights on and off, how much we spend, where we spend it, and for what. All that is left to be seen is who will accept the mark and who won't.
.

Taken · Sep 25, 2021

Keraz said:
The heavens is our atmosphere and outer space.
Heaven is God's spiritual place. It could be anywhere and everywhere.

Thank you.
I was moreso asking details of the Heaven(s).
Offering MORE indepth (yet brief, as other Scriptures reveal MORE)
You brought up your Disbelief in the RAPTURE
(An all encomassing word, meaning the SAVED Raised UP off the Face of the During the Last Tribulation From Heaven, to Destroy the Earth)
* Regarding HEAVEN(S)
* Regarding First Tribulation/Wrath of God.
* Regarding WHO was Saved & How.
* Regarding Last Tribulation/Wrath from Heaven.
* Regarding WHO shall be Saved Before the Tribulation Begins & How & Why
(Ie RAPTURE).
* Others ARE Saved during the Tribulation, but a completely different Study.

Earth - mans estate
1) Lower Heavens - ...air, clouds, atmosphere
2) Middle Heavens - ...stars, angels estate
3) Highest Heavens -...Gods estate, pure light

No man has gone UP to Heaven, but he who came Down from Heaven...
* Which Heaven did man, called Jesus, come DOWN FROM?
* Highest Heaven.
* How do we know?

* Scripture says, Heaven IS Gods Throne.
* God is present everywhere. 1 Kings 8:27
* Jesus said, His Kingdom is not OF this world.
* Jesus said, He came forth out from God.
* Scripture says, Jesus passed, THROUGH the Heavens. Heb 4:14
* Jesus returned to High Heaven. Heb 8:1

OT - SAVING of a man.
...Obedience to the Law
...Disobedience to any portion of the Law, was a SIN.
...Commission of SIN had negative consequences.
...Forgiveness of SIN, required BLOOD sacrifice.
...BLOOD sacrifices, IN the Temple, IN Jerusalem, Pure, Undefiled Animal (having not engaged sexually).
...Sacrifices & Forgiveness Required repeating yearly.
.... Men WHO: Believed; Followed the Law; (Positive Law, of what the Law required...
Negative Law, Negative Consequences punishments, Yearly sacrifices, Yearly Forgiveness..........MEANT WHAT EXACTLY???

...IT MEANT...THE LORD was WITH THAT man.
...IT MEANT...THAT man was WITH the LORD.

AND?
WHAT "IF"...the man, "DID NOT follow the LAW"...??? DO what the LAW SAID "TO DO"?
(Positive LAW...do as the LAW SAID...
(Negative LAW (curse/penal)....as the LAW SAID) ????

THE LORD, would NOT BE "WITH" that man.
THAT man, would NOT BE "WITH" the LORD.

OT Scripture gives US multiple examples...
OF: the LORD, "WITH and WITHOUT" men...and men "WITH and WITHOUT", the LORD....(and WHY).

WHAT HAPPENED to MEN...WHO were "WITH" the LORD...and CONTINUED, "WITH" the LORD?

THEY..."BECAME" SAVED.
HOW....WHY ...WHEN ?
HOW....By Gods POWER
WHY.....BECAUSE THEY "ENDURED" .
HOW...by their own effort, strength, power.
Endured TO WHEN...the END of their natural life.
SAVED WHEN...the END of their natural life.
WHY...BECAUSE, they "ENDURED", remained, "WITH" the LORD.

NT Scripture -
* LAW FULFILLED.
* Positive LAW " & " Negative LAW (ie consequences) ONLY APPLY...."IF" the LAW APPLIES "TO" the man, A People, A Nation.
* LAW FULFILLED... BUT NOT DESTROYED
* MEANING WHAT?
* IN REGARD to a mans "FREEWILL", TO BELIEVE, Trust, Act, Choose, According TO the mans own WILL.

NT - Descendants of men ORGINALLY "GIVEN" the LAW...(Hebrews, Tribes, Jews)...
OFFERED...."A NEW Testament", A NEW Covenant".

@ Keraz - Continued...

The Church is not prepared for what is to come.

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