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Ummmmmm, if you wanted the TRUE (and CORRECT) Jewish text, you'd go to the original Hebrew, exactly as Young, Kiel, & Kliefoth have done.

Secondly, you could go to the JPS:


25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the word to restore and to build Jerusalem unto one anointed, a prince, shall be seven weeks; and for threescore and two weeks, it shall be built again, with broad place and moat, but in troublous times.
26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall an anointed one be cut off, and be no more; and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Please note that the seven is one duration, and the sixty-two is a second duration. Also please be aware that there is an "anointed one" (small "a") after the seven, and a second "anointed one" (small "a") after the sixty-two. So now you have to either consider whether Jesus made TWO appearances, or whether he had an older brother.


As such, I'd propose that the further you investigate your "doctrine", the worse it looks, -- exactly as the experts have found:


"...Montgomery, for all of his scholarship and knowledge of the history of interpretation, ends up with no reasonable interpretation at all.”, P.218

"... the great Catholic chronographers ... as well as those of all subsequent chronographers (including the great Scalinger and Sir Isaac Newton) have failed.. And Edward Young too, finds no satisfactory conclusion for the seventy sevens ... and leaves it without a satisfactory explanation.", P. 217

Per Montgomery: The history of the exegesis of the 70 Weeks is the Dismal Swamp of O. T. criticism. The difficulties that beset any "rationalistic" treatment of the figures are great enough, but the critics on this side of the fence do not agree among themselves; but the trackless wilderness of assumptions and theories and efforts to obtain an exact chronology fitting into the the history of Salvation, after these 2,000 years of infinitely varied interpretations, would seem to preclude any use of the 70 Weeks for the determination of a definite prophetic chronology. ... " p. 217

Walvoord, John,“Daniel, The Key to Prophetic Revelation, Moody Press, Chicago, 1971


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The best people to interpret Hebrew, are Hebrews! The method of calculating Daniel this way has been used for centuries and despite your sources it DOES hit the mark! That is afterall, the definitive proof.
 

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The best people to interpret Hebrew, are Hebrews! ...

If that's the case, then go right to the top of the food chain. Go to the JPS, which says there is an anointed one after the seven, and a second anointed one after the sixy-two. But it is ill advised to find a "teacher" who tickles your ears.



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2 Cor 3:13-16
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
(KJV)

So much for trusting Jews to interpret God's Word for us Christians!
 

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2 Cor 3:13-16
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
(KJV)

So much for trusting Jews to interpret God's Word for us Christians!
You should watch Discovery channel a bit more! There are Jewish believers too! (Messianic Jews) To whom should I look to interpret English? An American? Christ was a Jew, (Yeshua) Peter was a Jew (Kefa) I wonder what religion the other Apostles were? Romans 11:23-25 may help.
 

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... To whom should I look to interpret ...



John 14:26


[sup]26[/sup] But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

So the question is, -- Is the book of Daniel filled with ancient prophecies (i.e., ~483 B.C., ~230 B.C., ~33 A.D.), or are the prophecies approximate to 1948? (Ref. Daniel 12:4 & 9) And where this 9th Chapter is a foundation upon which end-time aspects are based, each would do well to understand what it says, before taking a word, sentence, or verse out of context.

So back to the ~490 year "interpretation", -- Who can explain why it is that all of Scripture uses the concise Feminine text, except this 9th Chapter of Daniel which uses the inconcise Masculine gender text?

If it's CLEARLY 490 years, then GOD would have chosen the concise Feminine text. However, because it's NOT 490 years, GOD purposefully chose the INCONCISE Masculine text as written: shibiym / shabuwa, (Masculine plural / Masculine singular). :D


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John 14:26


[sup]26[/sup] But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

So the question is, -- Is the book of Daniel filled with ancient prophecies (i.e., ~483 B.C., ~230 B.C., ~33 A.D.), or are the prophecies approximate to 1948? (Ref. Daniel 12:4 & 9) And where this 9th Chapter is a foundation upon which end-time aspects are based, each would do well to understand what it says, before taking a word, sentence, or verse out of context.

So back to the ~490 year "interpretation", -- Who can explain why it is that all of Scripture uses the concise Feminine text, except this 9th Chapter of Daniel which uses the inconcise Masculine gender text?

If it's CLEARLY 490 years, then GOD would have chosen the concise Feminine text. However, because it's NOT 490 years, GOD purposefully chose the INCONCISE Masculine text as written: shibiym / shabuwa, (Masculine plural / Masculine singular). :D


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Read Genesis 29:26-28 This gives us how a week of years is reckoned The best way to interpret scripture, is with scripture. The scope of the timeframe is given at daniel 9:24 (seventy sevens or weeks) The first block of sevens are for the rebuilding of the city (this seems a long time but remember only about 50000 came back!) you then have to add 62 sevens or weeks onto this, and the final week, well thats a whole other debate! :rolleyes:
 

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Hey Cooter,


I'm not sure why you expect me to answer for another's failed promises. I only offer to defend what you challenged. -- It was an open ended challenge, wasn't it?

These failed speculations were standard Futurist doctrine for decades. I can certainly understand why you would want to disassociate yourself from all of these failures. Their are still many speculations also taught for decades, which have not yet failed (mainly because they were not dated) and are still a part of Futurist doctrine - that will never come to pass.

So where you cited the "revived Roman Empire" I would point out that Daniel 2:45 doesn't say 1,2,3,4a,4b, -- it says FIVE: 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE. And where you correctly assail the 27 + 5 as NOT the 10, I would propose the TRUE 10.

Of course - since the revived Roman empire speculation failed you have to invent a new one. Like the guy said in his new book "a coalition of 10 nations."

In fact, I can provide a simple Scriptural / Historical explanation for every cited failure that others have made. So for me it's not question of a solution, but for you it is a question of effort. However, if you're happy in your failed world then please keep whatever illusions you may have, (i.e., your ill advised statement to "veteran": I'm sure that the people of the first century were familiar with satellite technology). For as the saying goes, -- Ignorance can be cured, ... (and I forgot how the rest goes, ^_^ ). But if you've the guts to stand behind your challenge, then I think I'm up for it. :)

Name one of my sayings that have failed - you can't name one. Ignorance? - remember who it was that dumped Futurism and had to rebuild his eschatology from scratch - this was a of work and effort because i didn't get my eschatology out of a DTS book. . There's a saying - When people want to believe - they stop thinking.
 

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Now I can see why you are grossly misled! You believed the words of men before the Word of God!

Right I believed back in my youth the doctrines of men otherwise known as Futurism. When I got older and could think for myself I started over and rejected the false doctrines that I was taught.

Have you PM'd your buddy Envolve. He's the one who sent you here. I can only pray you will end up into the recycle bin!

Thanks for the good wishes and no I do not know anyone named "Envolve."

Preterism denies and rejects God's Prophetic Word.

I am not a Preterist and I don't accept their teaching; but I do agree with them far more than I do with Futurists because they are historically based as opposed to speculation based.

And I hope the administrator of the forum cans you, and the others who deny God's Word and those who hate Israel.

I've never been made to feel more welcome - thank you. I'd like to know where you get the notion that I hate Israel? Puzzles me - another mindless speculation I guess - there seems to be no end to them. Spiritual inbreeding is when you only want to be around those who think like you.

I refuse to share in a prophecy forum with preterist or with those who hate Israel. If you and the others are not gone soon...I am!

Aww don't leave - you may learn something.

But the offer still stands, whether to "Cooter" or to you:

I can provide a simple Scriptural / Historical explanation for every cited failure that others have made. So for me it's not question of a solution, but for you it is a question of effort. However, if you're happy in your failed world then please keep whatever illusions you may have, (i.e., your ill advised statement to "veteran": I'm sure that the people of the first century were familiar with satellite technology). For as the saying goes, -- Ignorance can be cured, ... (and I forgot how the rest goes, ^_^ ). But if you've the guts to stand behind your challenge, then I think I'm up for it. :)

Which challenge? - I have lost track
 

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I have no clue as to your assertion that anyone rejects Jesus, except that YOU reject Israel. And where GOD has called that nation into existence, both Scripturally and Historically, you apparently deny both.

But the offer still stands, whether to "Cooter" or to you:


I can provide a simple Scriptural / Historical explanation for every cited failure that others have made. So for me it's not question of a solution, but for you it is a question of effort. However, if you're happy in your failed world then please keep whatever illusions you may have, (i.e., your ill advised statement to "veteran": I'm sure that the people of the first century were familiar with satellite technology). For as the saying goes, -- Ignorance can be cured, ... (and I forgot how the rest goes, ^_^ ). But if you've the guts to stand behind your challenge, then I think I'm up for it. :)



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Israel is God's chosen People. I do not reject Israel. It is Israel that follows Christ: led by the Spirit of God. No one else is Israel.
 

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Israel is God's chosen People. I do not reject Israel. It is Israel that follows Christ: led by the Spirit of God. No one else is Israel.


You use semantics as though "Israel" is you. And where you are NOT "Israel", I would propose you are a different entity, apparently closer to the "goat" than the "sheep":

Matt. 25:31-33
[sup]31[/sup] “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. [sup]32[/sup] All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. [sup]33[/sup] He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.



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You use semantics as though "Israel" is you. And where you are NOT "Israel", I would propose you are a different entity, apparently closer to the "goat" than the "sheep":

Matt. 25:31-33
[sup]31[/sup] “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. [sup]32[/sup] All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. [sup]33[/sup] He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.



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It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!

Mat 10:25
 

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You should watch Discovery channel a bit more! There are Jewish believers too! (Messianic Jews) To whom should I look to interpret English? An American? Christ was a Jew, (Yeshua) Peter was a Jew (Kefa) I wonder what religion the other Apostles were? Romans 11:23-25 may help.

I don't equate today's usage of the word 'Jew' with Scripture. Today's usage applies to the religion of Judaism, which if you haven't yet noticed, is vehemently against Christianity. Judaism is still the old Pharisee tradition system which Christ was against.

Furthermore, I might be an Israelite from one of the other tribes for all you know, so I don't admit an supposed ascendency you may think you have over me concerning Scripture.

This is something I have failed to yet understand about the Messianic Jew label, since the orthodox Jews follow Judaism, and they still believe the Messiah shall come. So I don't see how that label makes a judicious attempt to associate with Christians, when if we are all believers that Jesus of Nazareth is The Saviour, then the term Christian ought to be enough for both of us.
 

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The Diaspora is an intriguing term that has come to be virtually synonymous with the dispersion of the Jews throughout the (white) world. Diaspora is derived from the Greek dia “through” and spora “seed” and means “scattering” or “scattering of seed”. By referring to their various migrations collectively as The Diaspora, the Jews are in effect telling us that they are (the) scattered seed. Moreover, as seed is often used as a metaphor for progeny or children, they are also telling us that they are children who’ve been scattered in foreign lands, by implication, among other children or seed.
Seed, though used in a plural sense in The Diaspora, suggests the same kind of seed, which in turn suggests a common ancestor. Who is this common ancestor? So-called judeo-christian churches teach that it’s Abraham, but this is not what the Bible teaches.
Matthew 13:24-26, 36-39
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Jesus explains that Satan is the sower of the bad seed, and the tares are his children. But what exactly does He mean by children of Satan? Does He mean that they are simply evil people, white or non-white, who have become the spiritual children of Satan through their misdeeds, or does He mean that they are Satan’s literal offspring?
Jesus said that the bad seed was sown after the good seed was sown. One of the characteristics of Jews is that they are parasitical. They are incapable of building a nation; they can only move into an established one and live off it until their pernicious presence reduces it to a crumbling ruin or until the populace drives them out.
Jews have been expelled from white European countries, including England, throughout history. Spain expelled them twice. This consistent rejection of the Jews by their host nations indicates that, much like a drunk who is kicked out of one bar after another for his obnoxious behavior, they were solely to blame for their expulsion.
Not surprisingly, the Jews cite rampant antisemitism as the reason they were ousted. If, however, the countries they lived in really were hotbeds of antisemitism, why were Jews permitted to settle in those countries in the first place? Why would they even want to settle in those countries?
No. The repeated pattern of (often grudging) acceptance and rejection shows that the Jews weren’t expelled for who they were but for what they did. Of course, Christian Identity avers that who or what a Jew is and what a Jew does are inextricably linked.
Jews have always infested white countries. Although they have been known to arrive with the first white settlers in countries such as Australia, they don’t emigrate in significant numbers until those countries have become thriving nations. This indicates that the white Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, and kindred peoples are the good seed, the children of the kingdom, for they are the seed that is planted before the bad seed, which, as we shall see, is Jewry.
While it’s true that there are black, Chinese, and even Arab Jews, Jews concentrate their efforts on eradicating the white race rather than other races because whites, being Yahweh’s children, are their mortal enemies. Obadiah 18 foretells that the seed of Jacob, i.e. the white Israelite peoples, will at Yahweh’s behest wipe Edom (the 1905 edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia states that Edom is in modern Jewry) off the face of the Earth. The Jews are trying frantically to belay that order of execution by eliminating their executors through race-mixing, abortion, and a plummeting birthrate, induced by their economic tyranny, but Obadiah’s prophecy cannot be denied. Their genocide is inescapable.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts… (Hebrews 8:10). White people are the only people on Earth to whom this promise can apply. Whites have been instrumental in spreading Christianity and have based their countries’ laws on biblical law. Whites have been a blessing to other peoples, bringing life-saving medicine and technology to the world; no other race is as benevolent as the white race. Prosperity and civil order follow whites wherever their seed takes root (which is one of the reasons that non-whites flock to our countries). This is because Yahweh promises to bless us in every conceivable way (Deuteronomy 28:1-12), but only for as long as we obey His laws. Whites, who are descended from Adam, mirror Yahweh’s characteristics, having been made in His (spiritual) image. These characteristics are passed on from one generation to the next, as seed always produces the same kind of seed, which is why white nations, despite cultural differences, are relatively similar to each other, yet radically different from, and vastly superior to, third world nations.
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy…(John 10:10). We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy…(Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 155). Jews have been anything but a blessing to the countries that have taken them in, creating moral, social, and economic chaos with monotonous regularity. They, being the bad seed, are genetically predisposed to choke the good seed, to destroy white society and whites themselves. Jews have been behind every major movement, piece of legislation, and activity that has eroded the Christian and racial foundations of white nations. Feminism, universalism, gun control, gay and civil rights, non-white immigration, pornography, abortion, hate speech laws, and the abolition of capital punishment are all the result of aggressive and assiduous Jewish activism.
Could there be any clearer sign that the Jews are the bad seed than their constant push to have every vestige of Christianity removed from our towns, cities, and institutions? They have already succeeded in removing prayer from schools and Christian symbols from public places through the vigorous lobbying of their alphabet organizations such as the ADL and ACLU. Then there is their continuous promotion of sexual immorality, miscegenation, and atheism through the mass media, most of which they own and control. Try finding a modern mainstream TV show or movie that is against homosexuality, non-white immigration, or premarital sex, or that extols Yahweh’s Word. There is none. Hollywood and the media in general portray the world according to Jews, not white racialist Christians.
The catastrophic influence that Jews exert on white society today is a direct consequence of our disobeying Yahweh’s law. It is our habitual trangression of that law, our sin, that has provided fertile ground for the bad seed to grow and flourish. Sin has got us into this mess, and only repenting and turning to Yahweh on a national as well as an individual basis will get us out.
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
 

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I don't equate today's usage of the word 'Jew' with Scripture. Today's usage applies to the religion of Judaism, which if you haven't yet noticed, is vehemently against Christianity. Judaism is still the old Pharisee tradition system which Christ was against.

Furthermore, I might be an Israelite from one of the other tribes for all you know, so I don't admit an supposed ascendency you may think you have over me concerning Scripture.

This is something I have failed to yet understand about the Messianic Jew label, since the orthodox Jews follow Judaism, and they still believe the Messiah shall come. So I don't see how that label makes a judicious attempt to associate with Christians, when if we are all believers that Jesus of Nazareth is The Saviour, then the term Christian ought to be enough for both of us.
Hi Veteran, Yes, Orthodox Jews are still similar to the old (Phariseeic?) type. The messianics still cling to their Jewish roots and still observe Torah law and consequently do not call themselves Christians but that is really the only difference between themselves and Christians. I don`t claim my scriptual knowledge is better than yours and only quoted Romans to indicate that the cultivated Olive (Jews) had some of there branches rejected, and the branches of the wild Olive (Gentiles) are going to be grafted into the same tree!
 

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Israelsson - Take your contorted and insulting British-Israelism beliefs, your Jewish bigotry, and your white-supremist and skin-headed views somewhere else, but away from this website.

Did you copy your last post from a British-Israelism site? Don't think you are smart enough to write that on your own, because anyone who believes British-Israelism is an idiot, and extremely stupid.

I am contacting the owners / moderators to have you removed from this site....permanently...
 

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The Diaspora is an intriguing term that has come to be virtually synonymous with the dispersion of the Jews throughout the (white) world. Diaspora is derived from the Greek dia “through” and spora “seed” and means “scattering” or “scattering of seed”. By referring to their various migrations collectively as The Diaspora, the Jews are in effect telling us that they are (the) scattered seed. Moreover, as seed is often used as a metaphor for progeny or children, they are also telling us that they are children who’ve been scattered in foreign lands, by implication, among other children or seed.
Seed, though used in a plural sense in The Diaspora, suggests the same kind of seed, which in turn suggests a common ancestor. Who is this common ancestor? So-called judeo-christian churches teach that it’s Abraham, but this is not what the Bible teaches.
Matthew 13:24-26, 36-39
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Jesus explains that Satan is the sower of the bad seed, and the tares are his children. But what exactly does He mean by children of Satan? Does He mean that they are simply evil people, white or non-white, who have become the spiritual children of Satan through their misdeeds, or does He mean that they are Satan’s literal offspring?
Jesus said that the bad seed was sown after the good seed was sown. One of the characteristics of Jews is that they are parasitical. They are incapable of building a nation; they can only move into an established one and live off it until their pernicious presence reduces it to a crumbling ruin or until the populace drives them out.
Jews have been expelled from white European countries, including England, throughout history. Spain expelled them twice. This consistent rejection of the Jews by their host nations indicates that, much like a drunk who is kicked out of one bar after another for his obnoxious behavior, they were solely to blame for their expulsion.
Not surprisingly, the Jews cite rampant antisemitism as the reason they were ousted. If, however, the countries they lived in really were hotbeds of antisemitism, why were Jews permitted to settle in those countries in the first place? Why would they even want to settle in those countries?
No. The repeated pattern of (often grudging) acceptance and rejection shows that the Jews weren’t expelled for who they were but for what they did. Of course, Christian Identity avers that who or what a Jew is and what a Jew does are inextricably linked.
Jews have always infested white countries. Although they have been known to arrive with the first white settlers in countries such as Australia, they don’t emigrate in significant numbers until those countries have become thriving nations. This indicates that the white Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, and kindred peoples are the good seed, the children of the kingdom, for they are the seed that is planted before the bad seed, which, as we shall see, is Jewry.
While it’s true that there are black, Chinese, and even Arab Jews, Jews concentrate their efforts on eradicating the white race rather than other races because whites, being Yahweh’s children, are their mortal enemies. Obadiah 18 foretells that the seed of Jacob, i.e. the white Israelite peoples, will at Yahweh’s behest wipe Edom (the 1905 edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia states that Edom is in modern Jewry) off the face of the Earth. The Jews are trying frantically to belay that order of execution by eliminating their executors through race-mixing, abortion, and a plummeting birthrate, induced by their economic tyranny, but Obadiah’s prophecy cannot be denied. Their genocide is inescapable.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts… (Hebrews 8:10). White people are the only people on Earth to whom this promise can apply. Whites have been instrumental in spreading Christianity and have based their countries’ laws on biblical law. Whites have been a blessing to other peoples, bringing life-saving medicine and technology to the world; no other race is as benevolent as the white race. Prosperity and civil order follow whites wherever their seed takes root (which is one of the reasons that non-whites flock to our countries). This is because Yahweh promises to bless us in every conceivable way (Deuteronomy 28:1-12), but only for as long as we obey His laws. Whites, who are descended from Adam, mirror Yahweh’s characteristics, having been made in His (spiritual) image. These characteristics are passed on from one generation to the next, as seed always produces the same kind of seed, which is why white nations, despite cultural differences, are relatively similar to each other, yet radically different from, and vastly superior to, third world nations.
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy…(John 10:10). We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy…(Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 155). Jews have been anything but a blessing to the countries that have taken them in, creating moral, social, and economic chaos with monotonous regularity. They, being the bad seed, are genetically predisposed to choke the good seed, to destroy white society and whites themselves. Jews have been behind every major movement, piece of legislation, and activity that has eroded the Christian and racial foundations of white nations. Feminism, universalism, gun control, gay and civil rights, non-white immigration, pornography, abortion, hate speech laws, and the abolition of capital punishment are all the result of aggressive and assiduous Jewish activism.
Could there be any clearer sign that the Jews are the bad seed than their constant push to have every vestige of Christianity removed from our towns, cities, and institutions? They have already succeeded in removing prayer from schools and Christian symbols from public places through the vigorous lobbying of their alphabet organizations such as the ADL and ACLU. Then there is their continuous promotion of sexual immorality, miscegenation, and atheism through the mass media, most of which they own and control. Try finding a modern mainstream TV show or movie that is against homosexuality, non-white immigration, or premarital sex, or that extols Yahweh’s Word. There is none. Hollywood and the media in general portray the world according to Jews, not white racialist Christians.
The catastrophic influence that Jews exert on white society today is a direct consequence of our disobeying Yahweh’s law. It is our habitual trangression of that law, our sin, that has provided fertile ground for the bad seed to grow and flourish. Sin has got us into this mess, and only repenting and turning to Yahweh on a national as well as an individual basis will get us out.
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
May your Testacles fester! and all your teeth drop out! Most people here read the Bible! NOT Mein Kampf
 

BibleScribe

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Israelsson - Take your contorted and insulting British-Israelism beliefs, your Jewish bigotry, and your white-supremist and skin-headed views somewhere else, but away from this website.

Did you copy your last post from a British-Israelism site? Don't think you are smart enough to write that on your own, because anyone who believes British-Israelism is an idiot, and extremely stupid.

I am contacting the owners / moderators to have you removed from this site....permanently...



I agree in the disgust of at least two such individuals posting in this Forum, and have also requested that action be taken.


Secondly, -- GOD would that NO man perish. Thus we are given guidance as to the correction, and if not heeded, then the disassociation:

1 Corinthians 5:5

[sup]1[/sup] It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named[sup][[/sup][sup]a[/sup][sup]][/sup] among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! [sup]2[/sup] And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. [sup]3[/sup] For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. [sup]4[/sup] In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, [sup]5[/sup] deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.[sup][[/sup][sup]b[/sup][sup]][/sup]

1 Timothy 1:20

[sup]18[/sup] This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, [sup]19[/sup] having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, [sup]20[/sup] of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.

And I suppose some people might prefer to spend eternity in hatred, rather than accept the eternal peace and love of Christ. -- We'll see.



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Israelsson

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And there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Sure sounds that way when I enter a room that I've posted in. All the women in the room begin to complain because suddenly they can't argue the SCRIPTURE that I have provided. Still, you all choose to simply throw out something along the lines of John 3:16 or something that has nothing to do with the true context of the bible.

In my opinion, both of you that are attacking me, are the enemy. You refuse doctrine that is blatantly in front of you, and choose to attack the messenger since you can't attack the message.

And for the last time, I am Christian Identity, not anything else. As for your rude remarks about testicles, we can see what is on your mind most of the time if the first assault you make on me is 'festering testicles', sodomite! And the rest of you who HATE me, here is Yahshua's words on the subject "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13

And until I am removed, I will be here on this site as a 'hunter' seeking out those that desire truth, and not some fairy tale version that the masses believe.

Also, the above article is based entirely off of the Bible, not Mein Kampf.
 

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It stands to reason at least to me that the anti-christ was many when John spoke of them and he is many today.

1 John 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

Satan is one smart devil. And he does not do things in ways easy for you to see through. That is what makes him dangerously able to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

Mark 13:22 "For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."

How did false Christs come in subtle or cunning ways?

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

It was not that an individual came saying they their own self was the Christ. No, but false Christs came by false preachers preaching a Christ who is different than the true Christ while claiming to represent Jesus.


2 Corinthians 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Satan is not going to fulfill the prophecies you are looking at in ways that are easy for you to see. He is far too smart and tricky to do that.

Those ones Paul described above are the Man of Sin. Just as the true followers of Christ are his one body, they are Satans one body. And they are the reason the teachings are so divided in the church that we see in the flesh.

What is the temple of God?

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

It is Christ's body of true believers. It is the true Church and it is built up of God's people as we see there at Ephesians 2:19-22.

How does that son of perdition stand up in the temple of God exposing himself as the Son of Perdition?

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
 

us2are1

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It stands to reason at least to me that the anti-christ was many when John spoke of them and he is many today.

1 John 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

Satan is one smart devil. And he does not do things in ways easy for you to see through. That is what makes him dangerously able to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

Mark 13:22 "For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."

How did false Christs come in subtle or cunning ways?

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

It was not that an individual came saying they their own self was the Christ. No, but false Christs came by false preachers preaching a Christ who is different than the true Christ while claiming to represent Jesus.


2 Corinthians 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Satan is not going to fulfill the prophecies you are looking at in ways that are easy for you to see. He is far too smart and tricky to do that.

Those ones Paul described above are the Man of Sin. Just as the true followers of Christ are his one body, they are Satans one body. And they are the reason the teachings are so divided in the church that we see in the flesh.

What is the temple of God?

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

It is Christ's body of true believers. It is the true Church and it is built up of God's people as we see there at Ephesians 2:19-22.

How does that son of perdition stand up in the temple of God exposing himself as the Son of Perdition?

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?


Amen Vengle

When The Lord's two witnesses begin their ministry and remove the food and water from earth. Then those who truly believe and walk in faith will be revealed.