Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Keraz · Oct 8, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

There is a gap of 1000 years between verse 23 and 24. It seems that Paul was not aware of the Millennium reign of Jesus. Revelation tells us about it.
Denying Revelation 20's mention of the one thousand year period after Jesus Returns, is flat out rejection of Scripture.

Davy: Jesus doesn't burn everything at His Return. Why would He do that?
The Day of the Lord's fiery wrath is at the Sixth Seal, years before the Return.

Truth7t7 · Oct 8, 2021

Keraz said:
There is a gap of 1000 years between verse 23 and 24. It seems that Paul was not aware of the Millennium reign of Jesus. Revelation tells us about it.
Denying Revelation 20's mention of the one thousand year period after Jesus Returns, is flat out rejection of Scripture.

Davy: Jesus doesn't burn everything at His Return. Why would He do that?
The Day of the Lord's fiery wrath is at the Sixth Seal, years before the Return.

It's my opinion teaching something not seen in scripture is adding to the word

A 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom is found no place in scripture

Jesus Christ will return in fire and Final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by fire

Keraz · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
It's my opinion teaching something not seen in scripture is adding to the word

A 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom is found no place in scripture

Jesus Christ will return in fire and Final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by fire

But the 1000 year period after Jesus Returns IS stated six times in Revelation 20. Also in several other prophesies and described in many others.
Your belief that a Millennium is not found in the Bible is quite wrong and Jesus does NOT Return in fire, but in His glory and power and He destroys the armies at Armageddon by the Sword of His Word.

Your vehement insistence to reject these truths is seriously bad and destroys your credibility.

Timtofly · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
It's my opinion teaching something not seen in scripture is adding to the word

A 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom is found no place in scripture

Jesus Christ will return in fire and Final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by fire

Some if not most of us, can see Revelation 20 just fine. Some like to change God's Word to say something else.

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Oseas said:
You are inadvertently copying God's Word, and are spreading satanic messages among God's people, lying and misleading the readers through your devilish theories and messages.

The theories you are preaching you learned reading devilish literatures of false preachers and false interpreters of the Word of GOD, in other words, what you have learned and are preaching you learned from demons, from devils, actually you have drunk of the cup of demons.

You and ALL shouldn't or cannot drink of the cup of demons, as says the Word-the Word is GOD-, I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils-1Cor.10:v.21.

Revelation 11:v.15 - The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD (in this Planet called Earth) , yeah, the KINGDOMS of this DEVIL's WORLD, are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Where? Here, even here, after destroying the current world of Devil, then will fulfill LITERALLY 1 Corinthians 15:v.24-27:
24 The END comes when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.(of the world of Devil in which you are living. JESUS said: But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that Day (this Day arrived, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium) when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.)

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Revelation 5:v.8 to 13
8 And when he had taken the book, the four living beings and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. (prayers of what saints? Scriptures refer to the true believers exclusively)

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the living beings and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the EARTH, and under the EARTH, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. Whosoever was not found written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire.

Psalm 24:v.3-5
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the GOD of his salvation.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by him, the others are demons), and LORD of lords

Jesus Is The Lord!

Your claims are direct "Personal Attacks" and false claims, "Stop The Personal Attacks"!

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by his fire

There will be no future Millennial Kingdom on this earth after the return of Jesus Christ, it will be gone, dissolved by the Lords fire

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Timtofly said:
Some if not most of us, can see Revelation 20 just fine. Some like to change God's Word to say something else.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Keraz said:
But the 1000 year period after Jesus Returns IS stated six times in Revelation 20. Also in several other prophesies and described in many others.
Your belief that a Millennium is not found in the Bible is quite wrong and Jesus does NOT Return in fire, but in His glory and power and He destroys the armies at Armageddon by the Sword of His Word.

Your vehement insistence to reject these truths is seriously bad and destroys your credibility.

Please Refer To Post #67 Above

Pretty Hard To Have A Literal Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, With (The Souls) And (The Dead) Seen In Revelation 20:4-6

nenagana · Oct 9, 2021

Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Background (Statement)

God Said..........

GENESIS 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (This City)
GENESIS 4:18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
GENESIS 4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
GENESIS 4:20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and [of such as have] cattle. (This City of Tents Also)
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GENESIS 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, [said she], hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. (GOD DID NOT DO THE WORK OF "DEAD FLESH ACCUSATION).
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(This City of Enoch) (905 Years)
GENESIS 5:11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
(This City of Lamech) (95 Years)
GENESIS 5:30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
"1000 Years...........God does not do the work of "dead flesh accusation........Parable"
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(the Flood of Noah took place in Noah's 600th Year of Life............what God talks about @@@@@ Noah's 595th Year of Life with Lamech, is a division of GOD NO PERFORMING THE WORK)

There is a Contradiction of Noah's Seventheen Day of the Second Month and the Seventh Day (GOD NOT PERFORMING THE WORK, spiritually for the faithful but not for the earth)

(God used about "1000 Years", that is the difference in this contradiction..........its a parable, the Generations of that Day, were responsible for killing the Generations of Enos or etc, those unclean places............and they did not, and that was just called "1000 Years", a division for the unfaithful, blind and dumb) (in 1Kings20:28-30, we see, the figures of Noah's Contradiction, and God saying he was not going to perform the work of "dead flesh accusation")
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God Doesn't Say he will Remove Human Dirth along the Earth's Chakra Network to Justify the Last Generation!!!!!!!!!............Jesus talks about a "New Jerusalem" which is the body of Jesus spiritually, not an earthly temple.............and "God and Magog" is the controversy or the accusation of dead flesh, that is for humanity to resolve its accusation with God (humanity has no guarantee, god would bless the son of man's activities with the earth's field to remove the controversy, its only speculative, it will not happen completely, or may not we'll have to see based on paritcular areas or countries, that are of some value in those days) -End of Background

Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Zechariah 14:1-2 (God cuts satan's pleasure, with a mechanism, like Covid19, and its for pleasure's sake not righteousness, the jews are dethroned from jerusalem, the chakra network or earth's field is speculative, as central in that area or one of some areas)

ZECHARIAH 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
ZECHARIAH 14:5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, [and] all the saints with thee.

(The Earth's Field, when excited will kill more and less in different areas, remember humanity has put dead flesh in certain locations specifically and generationally for suppression, and that is answered, but God doesn't resolve the accusation............there is a action that is taken, but also behavior leading to the ousting of the jews) (Jesus is not having "Kingship", instead, Jesus is described a Second time as Ascending to the Father)
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"Jesus is not going to Reign in a Millennium Kingdom for 1000 years.............this is very clear"
"Jesus Marks the Millennium Kingdom for 1000 years (parable)..........jesus doesn't have a kingship" this is the answer, the controversy will be resolved when we see RABIES
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David = the Lion of Judah (Rev.5:5)
II SAMUEL 5:4 David [was] thirty years old when he began to reign, [and] he reigned forty years. (Luke 3:23...Acts 1:3)
II SAMUEL 5:5 In Hebron he reigned over Judah seven years and six months: and in Jerusalem he reigned thirty and three years over all Israel and Judah.

(Coincidentally, I will be forty years old in 2022 A.D..........humanity is allowed suicide pleasur*, to beat the son of man with forty stripes but no more............so that is clear..........................when Jesus was 12 Years Old God cut the unclean spiritually from his testimony, however...........when I was around 10 Years old, that will tie with Nostradamus figure of 27 years to covid19...........(there was a public display of euthanasia at that time, and for their continual pleasure there's no record) (you may have to only euthanize those genetic lines that are above the 33rd Parallel on earth, to resolve the accusation with the earth's field and god not using this generation, that is a theory, so we'll have to see)

(it appears that many people will die, but not enough to resolve the accusation before humanity is dead, if god doesn't use this generational principally, then many individuals from various generations past, not very complicated)

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

nenagana said:
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Background (Statement)

God Said..........

GENESIS 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (This City)
GENESIS 4:18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
GENESIS 4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
GENESIS 4:20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and [of such as have] cattle. (This City of Tents Also)
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GENESIS 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, [said she], hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. (GOD DID NOT DO THE WORK OF "DEAD FLESH ACCUSATION).
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(Statement)

(This City of Enoch) (905 Years)
GENESIS 5:11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
(This City of Lamech) (95 Years)
GENESIS 5:30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
"1000 Years...........God does not do the work of "dead flesh accusation........Parable"
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(the Flood of Noah took place in Noah's 600th Year of Life............what God talks about @@@@@ Noah's 595th Year of Life with Lamech, is a division of GOD NO PERFORMING THE WORK)

There is a Contradiction of Noah's Seventheen Day of the Second Month and the Seventh Day (GOD NOT PERFORMING THE WORK, spiritually for the faithful but not for the earth)

(God used about "1000 Years", that is the difference in this contradiction..........its a parable, the Generations of that Day, were responsible for killing the Generations of Enos or etc, those unclean places............and they did not, and that was just called "1000 Years", a division for the unfaithful, blind and dumb) (in 1Kings20:28-30, we see, the figures of Noah's Contradiction, and God saying he was not going to perform the work of "dead flesh accusation")
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God Doesn't Say he will Remove Human Dirth along the Earth's Chakra Network to Justify the Last Generation!!!!!!!!!............Jesus talks about a "New Jerusalem" which is the body of Jesus spiritually, not an earthly temple.............and "God and Magog" is the controversy or the accusation of dead flesh, that is for humanity to resolve its accusation with God (humanity has no guarantee, god would bless the son of man's activities with the earth's field to remove the controversy, its only speculative, it will not happen completely, or may not we'll have to see based on paritcular areas or countries, that are of some value in those days) -End of Background

Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom
Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Zechariah 14:1-2 (God cuts satan's pleasure, with a mechanism, like Covid19, and its for pleasure's sake not righteousness, the jews are dethroned from jerusalem, the chakra network or earth's field is speculative, as central in that area or one of some areas)

ZECHARIAH 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
ZECHARIAH 14:5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, [and] all the saints with thee.

(The Earth's Field, when excited will kill more and less in different areas, remember humanity has put dead flesh in certain locations specifically and generationally for suppression, and that is answered, but God doesn't resolve the accusation............there is a action that is taken, but also behavior leading to the ousting of the jews) (Jesus is not having "Kingship", instead, Jesus is described a Second time as Ascending to the Father)
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"Jesus is not going to Reign in a Millennium Kingdom for 1000 years.............this is very clear"
"Jesus Marks the Millennium Kingdom for 1000 years (parable)..........jesus doesn't have a kingship" this is the answer, the controversy will be resolved when we see RABIES
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David = the Lion of Judah (Rev.5:5)
II SAMUEL 5:4 David [was] thirty years old when he began to reign, [and] he reigned forty years. (Luke 3:23...Acts 1:3)
II SAMUEL 5:5 In Hebron he reigned over Judah seven years and six months: and in Jerusalem he reigned thirty and three years over all Israel and Judah.

(Coincidentally, I will be forty years old in 2022 A.D..........humanity is allowed suicide pleasur*, to beat the son of man with forty stripes but no more............so that is clear..........................when Jesus was 12 Years Old God cut the unclean spiritually from his testimony, however...........when I was around 10 Years old, that will tie with Nostradamus figure of 27 years to covid19...........(there was a public display of euthanasia at that time, and for their continual pleasure there's no record) (you may have to only euthanize those genetic lines that are above the 33rd Parallel on earth, to resolve the accusation with the earth's field and god not using this generation, that is a theory, so we'll have to see)

(it appears that many people will die, but not enough to resolve the accusation before humanity is dead, if god doesn't use this generational principally, then many individuals from various generations past, not very complicated)

Earths Chakara Network, Nostradamus And Covid19?

Is That In Revelation Chapter 23?

Smiles!

Davy · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
A 2,000 year gap between Zechariah 9:9-10KJV, Smiles!

Revelation 20:1-6, (The Souls) & (The Dead) represent a literal 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, Smiles!

That above is just another example of how some like to mock God's Holy Writ, and try to make you think they're smart, when all it shows is their Biblical illiteracy.

There is an obvious long GAP between the Zechariah 9:9 verse and the Zechariah 9:10 verse.

Zech 9:9-10
9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

That above event was about Lord Jesus' Ministry at His 1st coming (Matthew 21:5).

10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
KJV

The above event is for the future time of Christ's 2nd coming, which is still not yet today. The idea of cutting off the chariot and battle bow is about His coming to take reign on the earth over all nations, which is when His literal Kingdom here on earth begins. That still has not happened yet today.

So HOW many years have passed since the fulfilled 9th verse at His 1st coming?

Well, Lord Jesus' Ministry at His 1st coming ended on His cross at 29 A.D. (per Bishop Usher's 17th century chronology, and E.W. Bullinger's 19th century chronology). That would be 1,992 years since then! Lord Jesus was 33 when He began His Ministry, so add that and it has been 2,025 years since His 1st coming (at His birth).

Brethren, beware who you listen to, because there have gone out many deceivers in the world.

Timtofly · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Yes, I can see those things in Revelation. Spiritual blindness will be removed at the Second Coming. Then you will see those things as well.

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Davy said:
The idea of cutting off the chariot and battle bow is about His coming to take reign on the earth over all nations, which is when His literal Kingdom here on earth begins. That still has not happened yet today.

So HOW many years have passed since the fulfilled 9th verse at His 1st coming?

Well, Lord Jesus' Ministry at His 1st coming ended on His cross at 29 A.D. (per Bishop Usher's 17th century chronology, and E.W. Bullinger's 19th century chronology). That would be 1,992 years since then! Lord Jesus was 33 when He began His Ministry, so add that and it has been 2,025 years since His 1st coming (at His birth).

Brethren, beware who you listen to, because there have gone out many deceivers in the world.

Jesus Christ Warned His Followers, Concerning Him Being On This Earth In A Millennium (Beware)

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Timtofly · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Jesus Christ Warned His Followers, Concerning Him Being On This Earth In A Millennium (Beware)

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Were there false Jesus and Christ on earth between 10BC and 70AD?

Did that prevent Jesus Christ from actually living on earth at the same time?

Did people still follow those fake messiahs?

You make it sound like what can happen can only happen in separate time frames and cannot happen at the same time. That was not true at the first coming and will not be the case at the Second Coming. Since Christ was physically on earth in the first century, and the world did not fall apart because of such a phenomenon, then Jesus Christ being on earth will not violate any sense of logic at a future coming to earth.

Oseas · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Jesus Is The Lord!

Your claims are direct "Personal Attacks" and false claims, "Stop The Personal Attacks"!

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by his fire

There will be no future Millennial Kingdom on this earth after the return of Jesus Christ, it will be gone, dissolved by the Lords fire

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

What I have claimed is that you basically write according your belief in false interpretations of Scriptures you received from demons, ministers of the Devil conform 2Cor.11:v.13-15 among others.

If I loved telling lies I would confirm the SATANIC theories you learned from the father of lie, the old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, and now called red Dragon, this is the new NAME of the father of lie in this current time of Apocalypse, understand?

The spiritual scenario through you is the same, if not equal, that that occurred in the beginning between Eve and Satan, when he deceived her, but he cannot deceive me through you or anyelse.

I am telling this not for to condemn you; your soul is precious; in fact you are condemned by your own words,deceitful words. You believed in the speech of the serpent, the Devil, and you scatters his false interpretation of Scriptures, you still believe in spirits of demons that are within the ministers of Satan conform 2Cor.11:v.13-15 among others, understand? Be careful or then get ready.

Actually, my replies have not other feellings than to tell the Truth - GOD is Truth, the Word is GOD, He is a devouring/ consuming FIRE.

The sharp Sword is used to break the Devil's snare and free you or anyelse from his trap. What matters now, and from now on, is to cast Satan into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more, understand?

Oseas · Oct 9, 2021

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.

What does the Word of GOD say?

Psalm 24:v.1-
The EARTH is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

Isaiah 40:v.21-22
21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
22 It is he -GOD-that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; (it is He who) stretcheth out the heavens(what heavens? the 1st, 2nd and 3rd heavens, and the heaven of the heavens; by the way, the 3rd and the heaven of the heavens will be established yet) as a curtain, and He spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Where do you think is GOD? GOD is Omnipresent, understand? You are inadvertently copying God's Word, and are spreading satanic messages among God's people, lying and misleading the readers through your devilish theories and messages.

The theories you are preaching you learned reading devilish literatures of false preachers and false interpreters of the Word of GOD, in other words, what you have learned and are preaching you learned from demons, from devils, actually you have drunk of the cup of demons.

You and ALL shouldn't or cannot drink of the cup of demons, as says the Word-the Word is GOD-, I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils-1Cor.10:v.21.

Revelation 11:v.15 - The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD (in this Planet called Earth) , yeah, the KINGDOMS of this DEVIL's WORLD, are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Where? Here, even here, after destroying the current world of Devil, then will fulfill LITERALLY 1 Corinthians 15:v.24-27:
24 The END comes when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.(of the world of Devil in which you are living. JESUS said: But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that Day (this Day arrived, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium) when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.)

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Revelation 5:v.8 to 13
8 And when he had taken the book, the four living beings and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. (prayers of what saints? Scriptures refer to the true believers exclusively)

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the living beings and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the EARTH, and under the EARTH, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. Whosoever was not found written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire.

Psalm 24:v.3-5
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the GOD of his salvation.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by him, the others are demons), and LORD of lords

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Oseas said:
What I have claimed is that you basically write according your belief in false interpretations of Scriptures you received from demons, ministers of the Devil conform 2Cor.11:v.13-15 among others.

If I loved telling lies I would confirm the SATANIC theories you learned from the father of lie, the old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, and now called red Dragon, this is the new NAME of the father of lie in this current time of Apocalypse, understand?

The spiritual scenario through you is the same, if not equal, that that occurred in the beginning between Eve and Satan, when he deceived her, but he cannot deceive me through you or anyelse.

I am telling this not for to condemn you; your soul is precious; in fact you are condemned by your own words,deceitful words. You believed in the speech of the serpent, the Devil, and you scatters his false interpretation of Scriptures, you still believe in spirits of demons that are within the ministers of Satan conform 2Cor.11:v.13-15 among others, understand? Be careful or then get ready.

Actually, my replies have not other feellings than to tell the Truth - GOD is Truth, the Word is GOD, He is a devouring/ consuming FIRE.

The sharp Sword is used to break the Devil's snare and free you or anyelse from his trap. What matters now, and from now on, is to cast Satan into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more, understand?

Once Again, Your Claims I Receive From Demons And Satan Are False "Stop The Personal Attacks"

Jesus Is The Lord!

Keraz · Oct 9, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Please Refer To Post #67 Above

Pretty Hard To Have A Literal Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, With (The Souls) And (The Dead) Seen In Revelation 20:4-6

The souls of the GT martyrs, which Jesus will Return with; will be brought back to life. Mortal life, not immortality yet.
The rest of the dead do not rise until the Millennium is over. Revelation 20:11-15

Your AMill belief is wrong. The new heavens and earth come after Jesus has reigned as King of the earth for 1000 years.

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Keraz said:
The souls of the GT martyrs, which Jesus will Return with; will be brought back to life. Mortal life, not immortality yet.
The rest of the dead do not rise until the Millennium is over. Revelation 20:11-15

Your AMill belief is wrong. The new heavens and earth come after Jesus has reigned as King of the earth for 1000 years.

There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Truth7t7 · Oct 9, 2021

Keraz said:
Your AMill belief is wrong. The new heavens and earth come after Jesus has reigned as King of the earth for 1000 years.

The New Heaven And Earth Are Revealed At The Second Coming, After The Earth Is Dissolved By Fire, In The Twinkling Of An Eye

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Keraz · Oct 10, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

A total contradiction of plainly stated scripture.
The three prophesies about the glorious Return do not say this at all; Zechariah 14:3, Matthew 23:30, Revelation 19:11

Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

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