The 'blessed virgin Mary'

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LOL...I don't have a CASE or ARGUMENT...

You repeating....Mary fulfillment of THE ARK...is simply you repeating yourself..

WHAT ARK?
WHAT Scripture speaks of FULFILLING this ARK you keep speaking of?

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God provided OT types as
pre-figurements fulfilled in the New Testament

Rachel for example was the spiritual mother of israel even though the twelve sons of Jacob had 4 different biological mothers, Rachel was spiritual mother to all the children of israel matt 2:18
So Mary in the new is spiritual mother to all Christians Jn 19:26-27

Mary’s is the fulfillment of the ark of the covenant, the dwelling place of God!

Ark of the new covenant!
The dwelling place of God!
God dwelt in Mary’s womb for 9 months, remember the ark was incorruptible wood covered with pure gold signifying Mary’s immaculate purity!
read exodus or any place in the Old Testament where something came into contact with God or was consecrated to the service of God it had to be pure and Holy!
In the ark was the word of God!
In Mary the new ark is the living Word!
In the ark was the mana!
In Mary was the bread come down from heaven! Jn 6
Bethlehem means house to of bread!

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, (Isa 7:14) and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Holy mother of God!

Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Consecrated to God in immaculate purity
The gold of divine love!

Old Testament type or example provided by God for our instruction!

Queen Esther

Queen Esther fair: est 2:7
Mary all fair: gen 3:15 Song of Solomon 4:12 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1

And the king loved Esther above all the women, and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins; est 2:17
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
Lk 1:28 also Lk 1:30 1:42 1:45 1:48
Mary obtained grace and favor: Lk 1:28
Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Esther merits the graces of the king for the people. Est
Mary merits the graces we need but don’t deserve. Lk 1:30
Mother is the mother of our savior and our salvation! Lk 2:30 matt 1:21

They prayed to Esther to intercede for them before the king. As Mary intercedes for Christians before God.

Queen Esther found favor with the king: est 2:17
Mary found favor with God: Lk 1:30

Queen Esther saves her people interceding with the king: est 8:17
Mary provides the savior of the world!
Lk 2:10-11

Queen Esther receives half the kingdom!
Mary receives half the kingdom, Christ retains the kingdom of justice as just judge and Mary is the queen of grace & mercy! Hence the throne of grace is Mary’s throne! Heb 4:16
Depicted in genesis as the greater light that rules the day (those living in God’s will) and the lesser light that governs the night (those living in sin) Mary the mother of mercy and refuge of sinners!
Notice the sun is the source of all good and moon only reflects this goodness!
She directs all to Her divine son! Jn 2:5

More about Mary.

Mediatrix does not make Mary the mediator or violate 1 Tim 2:5
Anyone who is in the communion of saints is in union and may pray and make intercession for one another! Rev 5:8
All graces come by Jesus Christ Jn 1:16-17 and Jesus came thru Mary,
matt 1:23 so all graces come thru Mary!
Mary is full of grace the throne of divine grace! Heb 4:16

Divine praises

All generations shall call me blessed!
Lk 1:48

Blessed be the great Mother of God, Mary most Holy.
Blessed be her Holy and Immaculate Conception.
Blessed be her Glorious Assumption.
Blessed be the name of Mary, ever Virgin and Mother.

Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints. Amen.

Praise of Mary & the saints ends in God!
All merits, graces, and virtues of Mary come from God & Christ!

1 Corinthians 4:7
For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

2 Thessalonians 1:10
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe…

No one believed more than Mary! Lk 1:45

Co-redemptrix
Eve a Virgin by the communication of a fallen angel cooperated in the fall of man, the first Adam, gen 3 and it is fitting that Mary a Virgin by the communication of a good angel should cooperate in the redemption of man, the new Adam! Lk 1:28-38

Advocate
Mary help of Christians, pray for us!
Mary is the advocate of Christians because she is our spiritual mother. Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17
Her intercession is great charity, for even before she is asked she sees a need and fills it. John 2:3 they have no wine, and Christ honors his mother, and never refuses her prayers, and because of her powerful intercession the newlyweds were spared Shame, and His disciples believed. Jn 2:10-11

Taken said:

LOL...I don't have a CASE or ARGUMENT...

You repeating....Mary fulfillment of THE ARK...is simply you repeating yourself..

WHAT ARK?
WHAT Scripture speaks of FULFILLING this ARK you keep speaking of?

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I laid out the Scriptural argument for Mary being the fulfillment of the Ark of the Covenant in post #701.
And all of your nervous "LOL's" tell me that you simply cannot refute it.

But that's par-for-the-course for a person whose main refuge is always "LOL" when stumped for an answer . . .

Taken said:

Nothing new, but your usual snarky personal attacks.
What is this ARK?
"Oh' oh, it's Mary, it's not Mary"...blah, blah...
Just repeat, repeat, repeat with ZERO ability to actually say anything relevant.

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Hey - if you are unable to Scripturally address the rock-solid argument I made in post #701 - just admit it and move on.

No need to get huffy.
Get educated instead . . .

Taken said:

LOL...
You made an claim, your Scriptural reference, did not verify your claim...and when questioned about exactly what your were claiming....you made snarky personal remarks.

Nothing new.

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Correction:
I made SEVERAL claims, and backed them ALL up with the OT Type as well as the corresponding NT Fulfillment. I not only provided the verses - I QUOTED them.

All YOU'VE responded with are your usual nervous little "LOL's" . . .

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Ofcourse I respond with LOL...LOL...LOL...
Your fantacy "mary ark"...is laughable at your delusion...thinking you are exalting Mary, but actually "taking away", from the truth of Mary's humbled willingly agreeable Service unto the Lord God.

* For 9 months, Mary's Virgin WOMB served the Lord God, according to His WILL, from the time, the Word of God, came down from Heaven, entered her Virgin Womb, UNTIL, the Word of God, came forth from her Virgin Womb.
AS Mary's virgin womb Served the Lord God for 9 months, SHE would be called BLESSED among WOMEN who also personally KNOW, joys and pains of pregancy and delivery of a child....
Are YOU A WOMAN?

Mary's virgin WOMB Faithfully served the Lord God, for 9 months...Done Deal...Educate yourself IN the TRUTH. Stop adding to Scripture that which does NOT apply to Mary. It is disparaging to the memory of Mary!

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THANK YOU for admitting - in your own nervous "LOL" manner - that you don't have a Scriptural leg to stand on.

I have repeatedly asked you for a Scriptural rebuttal to my rock-solid Scriptural argument in post #701 - and you have repeatedly failed.
Remember - a thousand denials - or desperate "LOLs" - do not equal one shred of evidence . . .

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LOL...the pseudo nerve inspector rants.

Nothing to rebut ...
* You begin with a False Claim.
* You then claim your False Claim is verified in Scripture.

Scripture, does not verify your claim.
And...you think I should look in Scripture for what IS NOT SAID, to prove what you say, IS NOT TRUE...

Sorry, but your "tactic", is simply "gaslighting", requesting me to prove you wrong, when you have revealed nothing to prove yourself right.

And per your usual failure...turn to personal attacks, AS IF, that is satisfactory deflective verification....LOL

* Again, using Mary as a catalyst to push your nonsense is disparaging to Mary's memory.
* Educate yourself in Gods Truth.
* It is more nobel to discover you have been duped, own the embarrassment, and move on to the Wisdom of God, rather than continuing to follow the men, mimick the tactics of the men who have duped you.

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You constant dodging aside - I'll make this easier for you.

I'll only ask you to address a few of the unmistakable Type/Fulfillment verses. Then, MAYBE you can try to offer a Scriptural refutation for them.
I'm guessing that you can't, and will simply offer up another flurry of your desperate "LOLs" - but let's give it a shot anyway . . .

OT - "Who am I that the Ark of my Lord should come to me?" (2 Sam. 6:9)
NT - "Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (Luke 1:43)

Explain the virtually verbatim quotes here - and show me another Scriptural example (OT to NT) where verbatim quotes like these are NOT related.

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OT - The Ark carrying the Word of God is brought to the house of Obed-Edom in the hill country of Judea for 3 months, where it was a blessing. (2 Sam. 6:11)
NT - Mary (the new Ark) carrying the Word of God goes to Elizabeth's house in the hill country of Judea for 3 months, where she is a blessing (Luke 1:56)
Explain how these two identical situations are NOT related - and show me another Scriptural example (OT to NT) where identical situations like these are NOT related.

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OT - On the Day of the Dedication of the Temple which Solomon built, there were 120 priests present (2 Chron. 5:11). The Ark of the covenant was carried into the Temple (2 Chron. 5:7) and fire came down from Heaven to consume the burnt offering (2 Chron. 7:7).
NT - On the Day of Pentecost, there were 120 disciples of Jesus present in the Upper Room (Acts 1:15). Mary, the Mother of Jesus and the Ark of the NEW Covenant was also present while the Holy Spirit came down as tongues of fire (Acts 2:3).

AGAIN - explain how these two virtually identical situations are NOT related - and show me another Scriptural example (OT to NT) where identical situations like these are NOT related.


I'll wait right here for your response.

Taken said:

LOL - more of your thinking and lack of understanding.

2 Samuel 6:9
[9] And David was afraid of the LORD that day, and said, How shall the ark of the LORD come to me?

If you read IN CONTEXT, David was NOT implying he was "unworthy" .... as your quote implies... "who am I"...

You highlighted, "the Ark of my Lord"...
Totally ignoring, the CONTEXT.

The Ark had just been delivered to David on a NEW Cart. The Cart was jostled. Another person attempted to Steady the Ark with his hands touching the Ark, and that person became struck down dead for touching the Ark.
"HOW SHALL THE ARK COME TO ME"...was a wondering QUESTION, of HOW He could have the ARK removed from it's NEW Cart, without becoming struck down Dead"
David Became affraid to touch and remove the Ark from it's NEW cart. Instead David Sent the Ark to another persons home. That person and his household became highly blessed. David then had the ARK returned to David, and thereafter David was highly blessed.

Luke 1:43
[43] And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Luke 1 is about Elisabeth having received a visitor, Mary, into her home, and Hearing of Marys news of her pregnancy, (without a man) by the Power of God, and Elisabeths reaction...
Oh, oh, Mary, you will be blessed among women.
Oh, oh, what kind of blessing is this to me, to have the mother of MY Lord come to MY home.

Obviously, you do not understand What actually occured or was SAID IN EACH scenario nor do you stay within the CONTEXT...
* David was in Fear to touch the ARK of Gos.
* Elisabeth felt a blessing to have Mary, with the Lord IN HER "WOMB", come to Elisabeths' home to expressly share Mary's first hand news, with Elisabeth.

The BOX, called the Ark of God, was made by the hands of men, to carry the Testimonial Word of God.

The WOMB, of Mary, called a WOMB, was created and made by God, unseen of men, undefiled by men, (ie Virgin), intended to carry the Testimenal Word of God, THAT GOD PLACED in that VIRGIN Womb, EXPRESSLY for THAT Word of God, to come forth, and BE SEEN and HEARD by earthly men.

If you were saying...Mary's Womb was "similar" to an ARK, intended to carry the Word of God...
That WOULD BE "ONE THING".... even plausable, to visualize a SIMILARITY...

But that is NOT the case.
YOU...rewrite the intent of Scripture, declaring,
Mary's WOMB...Was an Ark.
And starting with ONE LIE...the LIE snowballs...
Not only "was" Mary's WOMB an ARK...but still "IS"....Still virgin...The thing,(womb), The person, sinless, exalted, statues in the sancturary, bowed down to, kissed, worshiped (yes admittedly by some), prayed TO, Gods Mother, sitting next to God in Heaven, as His queen mother, on and on and on lie upon lie...

And the LOL...is your "endlessly" trying to Twist Scriptures into a laughable...pseudo verification.
Look, Look....Revelations...says WOMAN....oh, oh, it's Mary, Mary, in the sky, dashing off to the wilderness, coming to save Gods People...

A child who actually reads Scripture could figure out, it is what is "IN" the Ark, the Womb...that IS the Highlight and WAY to Salvation.

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Your point us MOOT.

Moses was an OT Type of Jesus. One was a mere man – the other nan who is also GOD.
The Ark was made by the hands of man and was purified and blessed.
Mary was made by God and was purified and blessed.

As I reminded you before – ALL NT fulfillments are MORE glorious and perfect than their OT types – without exception.

As to your argument about the Type and Fulfillment “requiring” identical CONTEXT – this is also false.
Isaac, whose father offered him up as a sacrifice was a type of Jesus, whose Father also offered Him up as a sacrifice.
Isaac’s death was to test Abraham’s faith.
Jesus’s death was to bring about the forgiveness of the sins of the world.

And Isaac didn’t die – Jesus DID.

OT type and NT fulfillment
DIFFERENT context notwithstanding . . .

Finally – I NEVER said that Mary being the fulfillment of the Ark WAS the light. That’s nothing but a desperate distraction on your part. The ONE thing you correctly stated – Who she CARRIED is the Light and the Way to salvation, which makes her the fulfillment of the Ark.

Nice try – but you failed to address the other verses anyway . . .

Other than Galatians 4:4 saying that the Messiah was born of a woman, any thoughts on why Mary is not mentioned by any of the writers in the New Testament epistles including the one to Rome and the 2 by Peter? Why do you suppose that they were not inspired by the Holy Spirit to include any of the dogmas regarding Mary if she is intended to be such a vital part of the Roman/Latin Rite Catholic theology?

The queen of heaven is a pagan term, It was well known term in greek and roman muthology

When your church is basically built around not offending the pagans. You bring some of their terms into the church.