Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

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Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?


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Wrangler

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A study note from NSRV Ex 20:3 speculates the purpose behind the wording is to dispense with the idea of a heavenly council. Yet, Jesus himself invoked Ps 82:6.

The True God stands to preside over the heavenly council.
He pronounces judgment on the so-called gods.

Ps 82:1

Micaiah: 19 You should heed the Eternal’s message. I saw a vision of the Eternal One sitting on His throne with the heavenly army surrounding Him on all sides. 20 In the vision, the Eternal said, “Who will be the one to entice Ahab into battle at Ramoth-gilead so he may die there?” Everyone had a different opinion about who should do the task.

21 Right then, a spirit revealed itself to the Eternal and said, “I will do it. I will draw Ahab into battle.”

22 The Eternal One asked, “How do you plan on doing this?”

The spirit answered, “I will become a spirit of deception within the words of his prophets.”

The Eternal spoke again, “I like this idea. You will succeed at drawing him into battle. Proceed quickly.” 23 Therefore, the Eternal has placed a spirit of deception in the mouths of all your prophets, and He has sent destruction upon you. You will lose.

1 Kings 22:19-23
 
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Interesting and a somewhat ignored topic. There is an heavenly council and there used to be the earthly representatives of the heavenly council.
In the OT specific men (Like Moses and 70 men) and prophets and as always the angels. Numbers 11: 24-25, Psalms 89:6-7, 111:1

Even John the Revealer of Christ was an honorary member of the heavenly council in the earthly realm. Rev 10 and 11. He was asked to directly participate in events.

Rev 4:4 Christ sits on a throne, and the twenty-four 24 elders are around him on their thrones, as part of the council.

I believe many crucial things are planned in the other spiritual dimensions of the sole/council before they are visible and occur in the earth. To slowly and methodically bring the earth back into the realm of heaven.
 

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Notice the hostility in the 1st 2 responses. Odd.

One thing is to deny it. The hostile motivation is another thing.
And then I must think what are their motives. Do they really want to know or are they afraid of the truth?
 

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And then I must think what are their motives. Do they really want to know or are they afraid of the truth?

EXACTLY! No doubt a plain reading of Scripture upsets their man-made doctrines.

To my way of thinking, the question of the OP is the opposite end of why we pray. The OT, including Psalms, is filled with God answering people’s prayers. Even Jesus asked for the bitter cup to be taken from him. The heart wrenching REAL Lord’s Prayer is John 17 where Jesus asked God to take care of his friends when he leaves them to go home.
 
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EXACTLY! No doubt a plain reading of Scripture upsets their man-made doctrines.

To my way of thinking, the question of the OP is the opposite end of why we pray. The OT, including Psalms, is filled with God answering people’s prayers. Even Jesus asked for the bitter cup to be taken from him. The heart wrenching REAL Lord’s Prayer is John 17 where Jesus asked God to take care of his friends when he leaves them to go home.
Amen...you are right on target....this OP is so important and it's so ignored or hidden. It reveals the central mechanism of how prayer is or can be answered...Christ was, and all humans are part of it today. We cannot ignore it.
 

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Amen...you are right on target....this OP is so important and it's so ignored or hidden. It reveals the central mechanism of how prayer is or can be answered...Christ was, and all humans are part of it today. We cannot ignore it.

It goes, not only to God’s nature, but the inter-active relationship he seeks with His Creation.
 
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Genesis 1:26-28
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26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, ......

He said 'our' image not 'my' image. and he uses the word let 'US'. there was more than one being. Not more than one God, just others.
 

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It is my opinion that when He said, "Let us make man in our image, it was the Father referring to Jesus and Holy Spirit.
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- taken from "Blue Letter Bible/Don Stewart."
 
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It is my opinion that when He said, "Let us make man in our image, it was the Father referring to Jesus and Holy Spirit.
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- taken from "Blue Letter Bible/Don Stewart."

Revealed, the man-made doctrine distracting attention from the actual word of God. The text of GE 1:26 does not say ‘the Father’ but God, in his unitarian nature.

Who presides over the heavenly council according to the text of Ps 82:1? God, in his unitarian nature.

And what does your post have to do with the OP?
 

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Revealed, the man-made doctrine distracting attention from the actual word of God. The text of GE 1:26 does not say ‘the Father’ but God, in his unitarian nature.

Who presides over the heavenly council according to the text of Ps 82:1? God, in his unitarian nature.

And what does your post have to do with the OP?
In my opinion, God does not consult others. In my interaction with our Sovereign, He is, at times, Father, Son, Holy Spirit; at other times, Yahweh. He is Yhvh-Elohim, master of the universe and there is none like Him!
IMO, the gods in Psalm 82:1 are angels.
Did you know that He could destroy the universe and recreate it in a second? He can. The glory of God told me so!
He is awesome beyond words! Shalom!
 
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A psalm of Asaph. God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods": - Psalm 82:1
I think it's self-explanatory.
God is 3 and yet God is one. Father, Holy Spirit, and So. You can argue until you are blue-in-the-face...you will never change my mind.
Due to my experiential knowledge of God, I know He is 3 and yet one. You don't believe that...I can live with that.
After all, I'm not God and I'm not responsible for what you believe...you are. You don't answer to me and I don't answer to you. Peace.
 

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A psalm of Asaph. God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods": - Psalm 82:1
I think it's self-explanatory.

Not an answer to my request to explain it. Given that God presides over the Council (Great Assembly, if you prefer), how do you conclude he does not consult them? In addition, the Bible is filled with stories of God taking council from others, like how many righteous people need to be in a city in order for him to not destroy it. Seems like an EXACT OPPOSITE conclusion from the text.

Also, I do not believe the text has gods in quotes. God presides over the gods in assembly. My translation renders it Heavenly Council. Perhaps you are overlooking that this is what Great Assembly means in your translation. Besides, God, there are other Heavenly Beings. We know this to be true because God sends angels. Not sure how this is self-explanatory with the rest of your post.
 

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Isaiah 40:13 Who has directed the Spirit of the Lord,
Or as His counselor has taught Him?
14 With whom did He take counsel, and whoinstructed Him,
And taught Him in the path of justice?
Who taught Him knowledge,
And showed Him the way of understanding?

Romans 11:
33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!

34 “For who has known themind of the Lord?
Or who has become His counselor?”
35 “Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?”

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