The Christian Resurrection vs. the Jew's Resurrection

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Did you know there is a difference between Christian Doctrine per The New Testament about the resurrection when Jesus returns, and the orthodox Jew's idea of the resurrection per The Old Testament?

Some Christian Churches wrongly preach the orthodox Jew's idea of resurrection, which is belief on the old dead flesh body being raised from the ground, and made anew. Just where would the orthodox Jews get such an idea?

Here's one place...

Ezek 37:1-12
37 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3 And He said unto me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4 Again He said unto me, "Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, 'O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.'
5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD."
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said He unto me, "Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, 'Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live."
10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
11 Then He said unto me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.'
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, 'Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O My people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel."
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Wow! What would someone who stays ONLY in The Old Testament Scriptures think about the future resurrection at Christ's future coming? They would definitely believe that God is going to refurbish old dead bodies buried in the ground, wouldn't they? But didn't anyone in Ezekiel's day ever think that God was giving that prophecy through Ezekiel as an allegory?

Here's why I ask that, for the following is about the resurrection per New Testament doctrine...

1 Cor 15:49-55
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, 'Death is swallowed up in victory.'
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
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As we have borne the "image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly"? What is Paul talking about with that?

Well, what is the "image of the earthy"? It's our flesh body, right? Yes! So what's that "image of the heavenly" we will also bear? That's the image of the angels, because Lord Jesus said in Matthew 22:30 that those of the resurrection are "as the angels of God in heaven".

That brings up an important question. If the resurrection is "as the angels" in Heaven, then just what kind... of body do the angels have? We well know through enough revelations in God's Word that the angels are not born through woman's womb, so they do not... have flesh bodies. They have angelic bodies of that other realm, the realm of Spirit.

Is the resurrection then to an angelic heavenly type body, and not about a literal flesh body? YES! Apostle Paul confirms this in the above, and in the following...

1 Cor 15:42-50
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

That idea of the first man Adam being made a living soul is important to distinguish from the resurrection that our Lord Jesus shows. Paul tells us there that "the last Adam was made a quickening spirit"!


I don't know about you, but a "quickening spirit" does NOT mean a flesh body.

Do you remember that even in John 3 Lord Jesus made a distinction between that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit? Flesh and spirit are two totally distinctly different realms and operations. The "natural body" is a body of flesh we have today. The "spiritual body" is the body type of the future resurrection. It is the "quickening spirit" type of the future with Jesus. Thus even our Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to "a quickening spirit".


46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
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There are more Old Testament Scripture examples that can make one think the future resurrection will be a refurbished flesh body out of the ground, such as Isaiah 26:19; Hosea 13:14; Daniel 12:2, Psalms 71:20.

Even with the Genesis 2:7 description that when God breathed the breath of life into Adam and he became a 'living soul', the orthodox Jews are led to believe that the soul... is even part of our flesh. It is not, as Lord Jesus showed in the Matthew 10:28 Scripture to not fear those who can kill our flesh, but not our soul.
 

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In 2 Corinthians 5, Apostle also shows this difference, when Paul said if our earthly tabernacle (flesh body) were dissolved, we have another building of God, not made with hands, but eternal in the heavens...

2 Cor 5:1-9
5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5 Now He That hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, Who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of Him.
KJV


That is a revealing by Apostle Paul that we have, right now, another... body within our flesh body, and it is of that realm of spirit, and is not of the flesh. Solomon actually revealed this in the Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 Scripture, but the orthodox Jews refuse to believe it, and treat his mention of "spirit" there like some force in nature that even plants and animals have. Solomon was really pointing to our spirit with soul that is held to our flesh body while alive on earth by that "silver cord" he mentioned. If that "silver cord" is ever loosed (severed), then our flesh goes back to the earth where it came from, and our spirit goes back to God Who gave it.

Therefore, The New Testament reveals a whole lot more about the future resurrection, showing that the resurrection is to a body like the angels have, and won't be a refurbished flesh body from out of the ground.
 
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In 2 Corinthians 5, Apostle also shows this difference, when Paul said if our earthly tabernacle (flesh body) were dissolved, we have another build of God, not made with hands, but eternal in the heavens...

2 Cor 5:1-9
5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5 Now He That hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, Who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of Him.
KJV


That is a revealing by Apostle Paul that we have, right now, another... body within our flesh body, and it is of that realm of spirit, and is not of the flesh. Solomon actually revealed this in the Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 Scripture, but the orthodox Jews refuse to believe it, and treat his mention of "spirit" there like some force in nature that even plants and animals have. Solomon was really pointing to our spirit with soul that is held to our flesh body while alive on earth by that "silver cord" he mentioned. If that "silver cord" is ever loosed (severed), then our flesh goes back to the earth where it came from, and our spirit goes back to God Who gave it.

Therefore, The New Testament reveals a whole lot more about the future resurrection, showing that the resurrection is to a body like the angels have, and won't be a refurbished flesh body from out of the ground.
Jesus Christ Maintained A Glorified Body Of Flesh And Bone Out Of The Tomb

Yes the Christian that died 100 years ago and was buried in the church graveyard, the body is still there

Yes this body in the graveyard will actually be raised and glorified at the second coming, just as Jesus Christ was raised and glorified in a body that maintained his scars from the cross of Calvary

Jesus Christ Is The First Fruit Of The Resurrection, The Living Example Of The Future Resurrection Of The Righteous

Luke 24:36-43KJV
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
 
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People just don't seem to have read and understood their Bibles properly.
We are informed, quite plainly; that when Jesus returns, He will bring the souls of the GT martyrs with Him and they will be raised back to life. Thats all! Revelation 20:4-5
Any other prophesies about a general resurrection, refer to the Judgment at the Last Day; after the Millennium.

All the fanciful notions and pretentious fables about receiving glorified bodies or immortality at the Return, are false teachings and cannot happen. ONLY at the GWT Judgment, after Jesus has reigned for 1000 years, is the Book of Life opened and those whose names are found in it will be made immortal, for Eternity. Revelation 20:11-15
 

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People just don't seem to have read and understood their Bibles properly.
We are informed, quite plainly; that when Jesus returns, He will bring the souls of the GT martyrs with Him and they will be raised back to life. Thats all! Revelation 20:4-5
Any other prophesies about a general resurrection, refer to the Judgment at the Last Day; after the Millennium.

All the fanciful notions and pretentious fables about receiving glorified bodies or immortality at the Return, are false teachings and cannot happen. ONLY at the GWT Judgment, after Jesus has reigned for 1000 years, is the Book of Life opened and those whose names are found in it will be made immortal, for Eternity. Revelation 20:11-15
There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end,
when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
 

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Jesus Christ Maintained A Glorified Body Of Flesh And Bone Out Of The Tomb

Yes the Christian that died 100 years ago and was buried in the church graveyard, the body is still there

Yes this body in the graveyard will actually be raised and glorified at the second coming, just as Jesus Christ was raised and glorified in a body that maintained his scars from the cross of Calvary

Jesus Christ Is The First Fruit Of The Resurrection, The Living Example Of The Future Resurrection Of The Righteous

Luke 24:36-43KJV
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Expanding on this for you are correct:

What then does St. Paul mean about a spiritual body? I think he is simply referring to having a body which is not ruled by sinful flesh but is ruled by the spirit (but it does have flesh and bones), and it has peculiar qualities. One can look at what Jesus had and other Scriptures to see them:

- Jesus was able to appear suddenly in a place (John 20:19, 20:26).
- We will shine brightly or otherwise be glorious (Daniel 12:3, Matthew 13:43).
- It will not be subject to death or sickness or pain ever again, or any other form of perishing (we can hardly even imagine this, every moment some of our cells are dying, what a deathless body is like will be amazing to behold) as in Revelation 21:4 and St. Paul saying "they will be raised incorruptible."

There are also other qualities theorized like being able to move at the speed of thought and so on, but we will have "what no eye has seen or ear has heard" then, so the theories are faint images of the reality to come. But as Truth said: we will still have flesh and bones, we will not be ghosts or spirits, but will have physical bodies, but due to the change of qualities in them it is called a "spiritual body." Just like how the change in a Christian by God we are now called "spiritual people," yet we still have our bodies. There is no basis whatsoever for denying a physical resurrection from the dead.
 
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Expanding on this for you are correct:

What then does St. Paul mean about a spiritual body? I think he is simply referring to having a body which is not ruled by sinful flesh but is ruled by the spirit (but it does have flesh and bones), and it has peculiar qualities. One can look at what Jesus had and other Scriptures to see them:

- Jesus was able to appear suddenly in a place (John 20:19, 20:26).
- We will shine brightly or otherwise be glorious (Daniel 12:3, Matthew 13:43).
- It will not be subject to death or sickness or pain ever again, or any other form of perishing (we can hardly even imagine this, every moment some of our cells are dying, what a deathless body is like will be amazing to behold) as in Revelation 21:4 and St. Paul saying "they will be raised incorruptible."

There are also other qualities theorized like being able to move at the speed of thought and so on, but we will have "what no eye has seen or ear has heard" then, so the theories are faint images of the reality to come. But as Truth said: we will still have flesh and bones, we will not be ghosts or spirits, but will have physical bodies, but due to the change of qualities in them it is called a "spiritual body." Just like how the change in a Christian by God we are now called "spiritual people," yet we still have our bodies. There is no basis whatsoever for denying a physical resurrection from the dead.
I fully agree, a body that's eternal yet tangible in this physical world, yet "Spiritually Eternal", hard to understand, but it's written plain and clear

Jesus appeared in the room while the doors were shut, and vanished out of their sight

Yes the Lords glorified eternal body was "Spiritual" yet was tangible flesh and bone in this world, that ate tangible food, and maintained the scars of Calvary

Yes Jesus Christ was the firstfruit of the resurrection, and we will follow the example of this glorified body of flesh and bone

1 Corinthians 15:37-44KJV
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
 
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Expanding on this for you are correct:

What then does St. Paul mean about a spiritual body? I think he is simply referring to having a body which is not ruled by sinful flesh but is ruled by the spirit (but it does have flesh and bones),....

For what you're saying to be true, then it would mean Apostle Paul should have never... said this:

1 Cor.15
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


Paul made the "flesh and blood" body a thing of corruption per that Chapter, and he said corruption cannot inherit incorruption per the above. Paul gave more relevant descriptions that go with that also, which make it plain that he was pointing to the "spiritual body" as the body type for the resurrection.

1 Cor 15:48-52
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
KJV


I tell you, if... we choose to deny the simplicity of the written Word of God, twisting it so it conforms to what one wants to believe, then why should our Heavenly Father and His Son reveal His Truth within His Word to us? He will let us believe whatever we want, if we allow ourselves or man to deceive us.

So when there are things written in God's Word hard to understand, it doesn't mean shape them like playing with modeling clay until we force them to our understanding. It means pray for understanding so we understand God's Message in His Word, letting Him speak.
 
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For what you're saying to be true, then it would mean Apostle Paul should have never... said this:

1 Cor.15
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


Paul made the "flesh and blood" body a thing of corruption per that Chapter, and he said corruption cannot inherit incorruption per the above. Paul gave more relevant descriptions that go with that also, which make it plain that he was pointing to the "spiritual body" as the body type for the resurrection.

1 Cor 15:48-52
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
KJV

Explain St. Luke's Gospel ending then. I fully am letting the Word of God speak and behold: it contradicts you. Moreover, explain St. John's Gospel ending where St. Thomas placed his hands in the wounds of Christ. Tell me whether or not Jesus had a corrupt body here, or if it was not spiritual.
 
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Explain St. Luke's Gospel ending then. I fully am letting the Word of God speak and behold: it contradicts you. Moreover, explain St. John's Gospel ending where St. Thomas placed his hands in the wounds of Christ. Tell me whether or not Jesus had a corrupt body here, or if it was not spiritual.
A body that was eternal and spiritual, that appeared in a room with doors shut, that vanished, that ate physical food in this physical world, tangible flesh and bone that bore the scars of Calvary

Hard to comprehend with this little human mind, "Beam Me Up Scotty"
 
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Explain St. Luke's Gospel ending then. I fully am letting the Word of God speak and behold: it contradicts you. Moreover, explain St. John's Gospel ending where St. Thomas placed his hands in the wounds of Christ. Tell me whether or not Jesus had a corrupt body here, or if it was not spiritual.

No, The Word of God does not contradict me, because I'm following it, you are not. Here's why...

1 Cor 15:45-47
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

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The "last Adam was made a quickening spirit" is about Lord Jesus and His resurrection body. It says He was made a "quickening spirit", and the word "spirit" there is Greek pneuma (NT4151).

What that shows is that Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to "a quickening spirit", and retained the marks of His crucifixion.

That won't happen to us. Our flesh will be dead and gone, not transfigured like His.

There are close similarities to the "spiritual body" (resurrection body) and today's flesh body. Yet, they are not the same. Jesus after His resurrection could suddenly appear to His disciples in a closed off room, and then suddenly disappear too. He and the two angels of Genesis 18 were able to eat and drink what Abraham prepared for them, even though they were not in flesh bodies like Abraham was. Same thing with Lot in Genesis 19, both chapters showings us they appeared with the image of man.

In Matthew 22:30, Jesus said those of the resurrection are "as the angels of God in heaven". Angels don't have flesh bodies.

In 1 Peter 3, he showed that Jesus at His resurrection went to the "spirits and prison" and preached The Gospel to them. 1 Peter 4 shows that was done so they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

So does the spiritual body feel like flesh, look like flesh? Apparently so.

It's simply a body of that 'other' dimension, the heavenly dimension. It is a body of 'incorruption' Paul called it. But putting all the Scriptures together about it shows it is not a flesh body like we have today that gets sick and dies, and is subject to hot and cold, etc.

In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul condemned that one having sex with his mother, casting him out of the Church so that his 'spirit' might be saved in the 'day of Christ'. That "day of Christ" phrase is actually about the "day of the Lord", the day of Christ's return and start of His future "thousand years" reign. Not about flesh salvation, it's about salvation of one's spirit.
 
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What that shows is that Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to "a quickening spirit", and retained the marks of His crucifixion.

That won't happen to us. Our flesh will be dead and gone, not transfigured like His.

There are close similarities to the "spiritual body" (resurrection body) and today's flesh body. Yet, they are not the same. Jesus after His resurrection could suddenly appear to His disciples in a closed off room, and then suddenly disappear too. He and the two angels of Genesis 18 were able to eat and drink what Abraham prepared for them, even though they were not in flesh bodies like Abraham was. Same thing with Lot in Genesis 19, both chapters showings us they appeared with the image of man.

In Matthew 22:30, Jesus said those of the resurrection are "as the angels of God in heaven". Angels don't have flesh bodies.

In 1 Peter 3, he showed that Jesus at His resurrection went to the "spirits and prison" and preached The Gospel to them. 1 Peter 4 shows that was done so they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

So does the spiritual body feel like flesh, look like flesh? Apparently so.

It's simply a body of that 'other' dimension, the heavenly dimension. It is a body of 'incorruption' Paul called it. But putting all the Scriptures together about it shows it is not a flesh body like we have today that gets sick and dies, and is subject to hot and cold, etc.

In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul condemned that one having sex with his mother, casting him out of the Church so that his 'spirit' might be saved in the 'day of Christ'. That "day of Christ" phrase is actually about the "day of the Lord", the day of Christ's return and start of His future "thousand years" reign. Not about flesh salvation, it's about salvation of one's spirit.
You push your Jehovahs Witness Jesus was a Spirit without a tangible physical body of flesh and bone

Jesus Christ himself in verse 39 below dispels your Jehovahs Witness teaching

(A Spirit Hath Not Flesh And Bones)

Luke 24:36-43KJV
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
 
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Explain St. Luke's Gospel ending then. I fully am letting the Word of God speak and behold: it contradicts you. Moreover, explain St. John's Gospel ending where St. Thomas placed his hands in the wounds of Christ. Tell me whether or not Jesus had a corrupt body here, or if it was not spiritual.

Oh, and we shouldn't forget Paul's admonition to be mindful to entertain strangers...

Heb 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
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You push your Jehovahs Witness Jesus was a Spirit without a tangible physical body of flesh and bone

Jesus Christ himself in verse 39 below dispels your Jehovahs Witness teaching

(A Spirit Hath Not Flesh And Bones)

Luke 24:36-43KJV
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
You claim souls walking around without a body. What is the difference?
 

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You claim souls walking around without a body. What is the difference?
At no place have I claimed spiritual souls are waking around without bodies, your claim is a misrepresentation of myself falsely
 

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At no place have I claimed spiritual souls are waking around without bodies, your claim is a misrepresentation of myself falsely
That is your teaching on Revelation 20. You fail to see those souls as being resurrected into physical bodies. You claim just souls in some other dimension.
 

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That is your teaching on Revelation 20. You fail to see those souls as being resurrected into physical bodies. You claim just souls in some other dimension.
Not one word in Revelation 20:1-6 are souls being resurrected into bodies upon this earth as you believe
 

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Not one word in Revelation 20:1-6 are souls being resurrected into bodies upon this earth as you believe
Then you claim souls just walking around without bodies.

Why would they have bodies in Paradise, but not on earth? The camp of the saints, with resurrection bodies was on earth after the 1000 years. Why would it not be on earth during the 1000 years?
 
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Then you claim souls just walking around without bodies.

Why would they have bodies in Paradise, but not on earth? The camp of the saints, with resurrection bodies was on earth after the 1000 years. Why would it not be on earth during the 1000 years?
Not one word in Revelation 20:1-6 are souls being resurrected into bodies upon this earth as you believe
 

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Some Christian Churches wrongly preach the orthodox Jew's idea of resurrection, which is belief on the old dead flesh body being raised from the ground, and made anew.

Who is this mysterious "some"? Honestly, I'm not sure what distinction you are making here for it seems a bit esoteric to me.

Years ago my baby daughter asked me for another cookie. I had given her a cracker. Rather than tell her she used the wrong word, I gave her what I knew she wanted.

Don't know if there is truly a doctrinal difference or just the language being used. For instance, many Christians think we become disembodied spirits rather than a physical resurrection. I've personally witnessed devote saints in Bible study for decades think this. You know, I just love them anyway.