Hah, marks, I think you just consigned yourself to starting the thread. 
Think about it: "No man can buy or sell"
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Not brown recluses, they have mean faces. They look like this > : [
Just in time to leave for the day. I'll tag you when I do.Hah, marks, I think you just consigned yourself to starting the thread.
Much love!
Well you know, Matthew, I had a long time reading through Revelation with lots and lots and LOTS of different opinions on what this mysterious thing means and what this other mysterious thing means.Okay fair enough, @FluffyYellowDuck it leaves me out of the ability to be in the fold of this type of belief and should focus on other things.
There are many scriptures that would suggest the calling of all these things was for them then.
Like said; I’ll have to focus on other things. All is know for the most part is there is this here.
Hebrews 10:15-25;1 Corinthians 15:1-11; Romans 1:1-17.
The power of God to Salvation is the Gospel of Christ his death, burial, and resurrection, and I believe Jesus had the victory over death, hell, Satan, and sin. It’s great news to me, and Jesus’s death is accredited to all people even those you do not believe.
All will be raised again and judged according to what God sees in their hearts.
Many will say on that day they never sinned, or that they believed Jesus was a good man, good teacher, many will say that they did this and that for the Lord… (being placed outside the kingdom according to revelation 22) when you all get there.
The key is to me personally, it’s all about Jesus and everything he had done. (Especially being resurrected).
You all take care, cause I can’t be part of these conversations unfortunately until the day I get revelation completely down. I don’t believe one should take everything literally but in between literal and figurative.
With love,
Matthew G.
And I did this for years. The only way it actually started to make sense to me was just sit down and read it straight through for myself.
There are parts that will be too hard to get and I think that's okay, as long as you can get to the core message.
Which is basically...
Throughout the rest of the NT, Jesus is seen as a humble servant and sacrifice. He is the savior.
In Revelation, he is no longer the humbled servant, he is the glorified king - and we will reign with him.
Brakelite
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KJV Matthew 13:30
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Brakelite
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Brakelite
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There is a way to better understand Revelation. It isn't all chronological. And some passages have several applications, all of them true. For example. The 7 letters were literal letters for those specific churches in Asia Minor (Turkey) in the first century. But they also can be applied very accurately to phases of church development over the last 2000 years, and thus were not only applicable to John's time, but were prophetic.
Also the seals and the trumpets can be viewed to cover the whole of history to our day, the seals pertaining to the church history, the trumpets pertaining to political history.
In the end, Matthew 24 and Luke 21 seem to be about a time when the church - properly defined - is not there any more. We all face the tribulation principle of John 16.33 - and the Lord has gloriously overcome the world, which is such an encouragement - but the very specific tribulation of Matthew 24.21 is distinct.
There are some people that believe the mark of the beast was achieved long ago in Rome. And I'm partial to that idea. That most of Revelation has already been fulfilled and not recorded in history. Some of revelation is still to come but not all.
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Ah good topic that not many are talking about...
Prepping...
I'm ready to disappear into the bush like the predator if I have to...
I'm solo, don't own any property or have anything else to hold me back...
Im prepared to drive my van out into the bush where i will not be found...
I will sleep in my van...
Stocked with carbohydrates like pasta and rice...
Close to a natural water supply...
I will catch my protein by snaring and trapping small game and fish...
I will pray and God will give...
They will have to hunt me down but this state is low in cops and high in bushland wilderness
One of my highschool friends posts an almost exact post to this on facebook. Hopefully things won't get that bad.
This reminded me of that meme where the little girl is standing in front of the burning home saying "there was a spider, it's gone now". Made me laugh.
Brakelite
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Getting away from spiders and scary stuff... No, not the scary stuff. The future can be scary. And one thing, no two things, I like to remind people about when discussing prophecy, particularly Revelation...
A. The future is rife with deception. Even now, nothing is as it seems. Nothing. What you think you see and understand, what you think is coming next, and how, and who it is going to effect, is likely, very likely, to be false. And I'm not talking primarily about politics, education, media, although of course those things are full of... Ummmm...
You know what they're full of. I'm talking about
B. Religion. Deception in regards religion. Why? Because the future deceptions and forced legislation prohibiting the buying, the selling, the ownership of property, forbidden employment etc etc, are religious legislation. They are focused on worship. How, where, who, and when. And that legislation will come about through deception. The vast majority of you won't recognize it though it'll be in front of you. Because in the final analysis, there will be but a remnant. And that remnant will be hated of all nations... There'll be no sympathy, no empathy, no family to run to because they'll hate the remnant as well. And they could very well be professing Christians. In fact, the nations, because the world has turned to false worship through the same deception, will hate you not because you are Christian, but because you are not worshipping as a Christian according to the orthodoxy then prevailing. Take a good hard look at ecumenism. What are the principle doctrines they all share? Who is leading out in the unity of religions? What are his principle doctrines? What particular focus has that leader today, and where do you think it's leading? Deception, and worship. That's what the new world will be all about. Are you completely out of Babylon?
A. The future is rife with deception. Even now, nothing is as it seems. Nothing. What you think you see and understand, what you think is coming next, and how, and who it is going to effect, is likely, very likely, to be false. And I'm not talking primarily about politics, education, media, although of course those things are full of... Ummmm...
You know what they're full of. I'm talking about
B. Religion. Deception in regards religion. Why? Because the future deceptions and forced legislation prohibiting the buying, the selling, the ownership of property, forbidden employment etc etc, are religious legislation. They are focused on worship. How, where, who, and when. And that legislation will come about through deception. The vast majority of you won't recognize it though it'll be in front of you. Because in the final analysis, there will be but a remnant. And that remnant will be hated of all nations... There'll be no sympathy, no empathy, no family to run to because they'll hate the remnant as well. And they could very well be professing Christians. In fact, the nations, because the world has turned to false worship through the same deception, will hate you not because you are Christian, but because you are not worshipping as a Christian according to the orthodoxy then prevailing. Take a good hard look at ecumenism. What are the principle doctrines they all share? Who is leading out in the unity of religions? What are his principle doctrines? What particular focus has that leader today, and where do you think it's leading? Deception, and worship. That's what the new world will be all about. Are you completely out of Babylon?
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