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did not answer my questions
Even when i do you igonore it . What is the point my friend .
DID JESUS constanly warn the same pharisess , or did he warn and then move on .
You aint listening . You label folks. You been trained by the dark church my friend .
But dont think , I DONT pray for you . NO . Dont think i dont care about you .
I DO . Its why i warn my friend . most all catholics and protestants , adventist and mormons would HUG YOU TO HELL .
NOT ME . You should peek around the site my friend . I do not have many friends . But i DO LOVE ALL . i warn
and this is what makes me an enemy to all churches who wont heed Christ .
THEY dont like reminders . I pray for you my friend . You are no worse than over ninety eight or ninety nine percent
of all protestant churches . They might be worse than you . BUT LOST IS LOST . SO it dont matter who is worse .
What matters is , WHO FOLLOWS THE ONE TRUE CHRIST .
 
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Son , lets stick to the subject at hand , i never said one way or another whether this is true or not .
Slow down my friend . Slow down . MARY was the MOTHER of CHRIST
and Christ cannot be seperated from GOD . YET , before MARY was , GOD was .
MARY was the mother of CHRIST . AND YES , CHRIST and GOD are ONE .
BUT CHRIST came forth of GOD . This was done for us , for our sake .
JESUS was before the world was , GOD was before the world was , BUT GOD IN FLESH , was not before the WORLD WAS .
THE WORD BECAME FLESH . This event happened , LONG after GOD was . GOD had no beginining and HAS NO END .
AND YES , THE WORD IS GOD . BUT THE WORD DID NOT BECOME FLESH in the beginning
That occured later . FOR a REASON . TO SAVE ALL WHO WOULD BELIEVE .

I did not say she was mother of the divine nature but the person of Jesus Christ who is God

chirst is savior yes? So Mary is his mother so she is the mother of the savior
She is not the reason he is savior, not the source of his being savior, but he is savior and she is his mother, mother of his entire person, so she is the mother of our savior! Yes?
 
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did not answer my questions
I did answer it . Go back and read it again .
You say that the CC is the one true church . SO DO THE MORMONS claim they church is
so do the adventists , WELL they used to anyway .
NOW they all going the way of POPE francis . ALL about unity . all about a false love
and doctrine has been kicked out .
 
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I did not say she was mother of the divine nature but the person of Jesus Christ who is God

chirst is savior yes? So Mary is his mother so she is the mother of the savior
She is not the reason he is savior, not the source of his being savior, but he is savior and she is his mother, mother of his entire person, so she is the mother of our savior! Yes?
 

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I did not say she was mother of the divine nature but the person of Jesus Christ who is God

chirst is savior yes? So Mary is his mother so she is the mother of the savior
She is not the reason he is savior, not the source of his being savior, but he is savior and she is his mother, mother of his entire person, so she is the mother of our savior! Yes?
Of course she is the mother of our savoir .
 
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Even when i do you igonore it . What is the point my friend .
DID JESUS constanly warn the same pharisess , or did he warn and then move on .
You aint listening . You label folks. You been trained by the dark church my friend .
But dont think , I DONT pray for you . NO . Dont think i dont care about you .
I DO . Its why i warn my friend . most all catholics and protestants , adventist and mormons would HUG YOU TO HELL .
NOT ME . You should peek around the site my friend . I do not have many friends . But i DO LOVE ALL . i warn
and this is what makes me an enemy to all churches who wont heed Christ .
THEY dont like reminders . I pray for you my friend . You are no worse than over ninety eight or ninety nine percent
of all protestant churches . They might be worse than you . BUT LOST IS LOST . SO it dont matter who is worse .
What matters is , WHO FOLLOWS THE ONE TRUE CHRIST .

you right there is no love without truth!

the successors of Moses like the apostles are not impeccable but they have authority that must be obeyed!
 

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I did answer it . Go back and read it again .
You say that the CC is the one true church . SO DO THE MORMONS claim they church is
so do the adventists , WELL they used to anyway .
NOW they all going the way of POPE francis . ALL about unity . all about a false love
and doctrine has been kicked out .

Jesus only gave the keys of the kingdom to peter and his successors
Only they have jurisdictional authority from Christ to administer the kingdom and govern the church he founded
 
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you right there is no love without truth!

the successors of Moses like the apostles are not impeccable but they have authority that must be obeyed!
Of course they do . Moses never led folks in the wrong direction .
Even the pharisees would point to moses and teach HIS teachings by the law . BUT THEY DID NOT KEEP HIS TEACHINGS
THIS was why JESUS said , DO what they say , BUT NOT AS THEY DO .
 

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Jesus only gave the keys of the kingdom to peter and his successors
Only they have jurisdictional authority from Christ to administer the kingdom and govern the church he founded
i fully agree . The entire foundation is this . THE PROPHETS , the APOSTELS , AND JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF as the VERY CORNERSTONE .
The problem is , many can say the same thing , and yet they DO something else .
THE CC has failed you all my friend .
 
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I did not say she was mother of the divine nature but the person of Jesus Christ who is God

chirst is savior yes? So Mary is his mother so she is the mother of the savior
She is not the reason he is savior, not the source of his being savior, but he is savior and she is his mother, mother of his entire person, so she is the mother of our savior! Yes?

Finally!
Thank you very much!
 

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Of course they do . Moses never led folks in the wrong direction .
Even the pharisees would point to moses and teach HIS teachings by the law . BUT THEY DID NOT KEEP HIS TEACHINGS
THIS was why JESUS said , DO what they say , BUT NOT AS THEY DO .
So you agree that their authority must be obeyed
Peter and the apostles and their successors have the same authority
 

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So you agree that their authority must be obeyed
Peter and the apostles and their successors have the same authority
THEIR authority YES , the CC NO . The protestant realm , NO ,
For many no longer even teach the right things .
I think i would pass out cold if i found a church that actually TAUGHT the WHOLE RIGHTLY DIVIDED TRUTH .
Its one thing to teach truth and be a hyprocrite , i would follow the truth taught . BUT These churches
cant even TEACH TRUTH . SO WHY FOLLOW OR HEED THEM .
WOULD YOU FOLLOW POPE FRANCIS . Exactly . THEN DONT expect me to follow men that teach us to pray to saints , mary or angels .
That is your problem . You aint like most franics catholics , WHILE THAT IS GOOD , BUT STILL you teach folks to pray to
saints , mary and angels . You destroy the very truth you know , BY DOING and teaching this other dangerous stuff .
IF you would just cease that , You have a lot of truth to share , BUT TILL YOU DO , YOU ENDANGER the souls of anyone
who heeds you . Cause telling folks we ought to pray to anyone other than GOD , IS BLASPHEMY .
IT TRULY IS . WHY you just wont cease that .
 
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THEIR authority YES , the CC NO . The protestant realm , NO ,
For many no longer even teach the right things .
I think i would pass out cold if i found a church that actually TAUGHT the WHOLE RIGHTLY DIVIDED TRUTH .
Its one thing to teach truth and be a hyprocrite , i would follow the truth taught . BUT These churches
cant even TEACH TRUTH . SO WHY FOLLOW OR HEED THEM .
WOULD YOU FOLLOW POPE FRANCIS . Exactly . THEN DONT expect me to follow men that teach us to pray to saints , mary or angels .
That is your problem . You aint like most franics catholics , WHILE THAT IS GOOD , BUT STILL you teach folks to pray to
saints , mary and angels . You destroy the very truth you know , BY DOING and teaching this other dangerous stuff .
IF you would just cease that , You have a lot of truth to share , BUT TILL YOU DO , YOU ENDANGER the souls of anyone
who heeds you . Cause telling folks we ought to pray to anyone other than GOD , IS BLASPHEMY .
IT TRULY IS . WHY you just wont cease that .

tell me is it ok to pray the scriptures?
 

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Salvation is of God
Salvation is by God
Salvation is by grace
Salvation is through faith

Salvation is in God, in Christ Jesus, in the gospel.

Read about Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,……they were chosen by grace and were saved by God

Read about Peter and the other apostles, Paul…. They were chosen and saved by God.

Read about the remnants of Israel and the Gentiles in Acts 13:48….They were chosen and saved by God.
the new covenant requires faith and baptism
Never faith alone
It is a covenant not a bible study
Must be an outward sign
Mk 16:16 faith and baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith and baptism
(Born of God) faith and baptism

Jn 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1 Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Born of God by baptism

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

1 Peter 1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: see Ez 36

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (baptism rom 6:3-4)


1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)


St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

What in my post do you say is not true?

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So you agree that their authority must be obeyed
Peter and the apostles and their successors have the same authority
How then does not the successors of the apostles raise the dead, heal the sick, give sight to the blind, cast of demons, and so on. Jesus had such authority, right? The apostles have that authority, right?

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How then does not the successors of the apostles raise the dead, heal the sick, give sight to the blind, cast of demons, and so on. Jesus had such authority, right? The apostles have that authority, right?

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Yes they do
 

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Not faith alone
But faith and baptism Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38
Covenants aren’t through which God saves. Not in the time of Adam to Noah to Abraham to till before the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ nor after that. God saves by grace through faith.

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Tong2020 said:
How then does not the successors of the apostles raise the dead, heal the sick, give sight to the blind, cast of demons, and so on. Jesus had such authority, right? The apostles have that authority, right?
Yes they do

So, do ALL the successors of the apostles, that is, the RCC bishops, cardinals, and Pope raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick, make the blind see, and so on?

You have any to show and prove?

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Son , lets stick to the subject at hand , i never said one way or another whether this is true or not .
Slow down my friend . Slow down . MARY was the MOTHER of CHRIST
and Christ cannot be seperated from GOD . YET , before MARY was , GOD was .
MARY was the mother of CHRIST . AND YES , CHRIST and GOD are ONE .
BUT CHRIST came forth of GOD . This was done for us , for our sake .
JESUS was before the world was , GOD was before the world was , BUT GOD IN FLESH , was not before the WORLD WAS .
THE WORD BECAME FLESH . This event happened , LONG after GOD was . GOD had no beginining and HAS NO END .
AND YES , THE WORD IS GOD . BUT THE WORD DID NOT BECOME FLESH in the beginning
That occured later . FOR a REASON . TO SAVE ALL WHO WOULD BELIEVE .

God sent from Heaven, to Mary's Virgin Womb, "the Word of God, in the Likeness "AS" a man. (Phil 2:8)

As was Intended: "a son".
(Luke 1:31)

"Her son".
(Luke 2:7)

Once the WORD of God was SENT to Mary's WOMB..."A portion of Prophecy WAS fulfilled".

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Once the WORD of God came forth FROM Marys WOMB..."Another portion of Prophecy WAS fulfilled".

Isa 7:
[14] Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isa 9:
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given...

Prophecy is Fulfilled "step by step"....
Prophecy IS FORETOLD, but NOT FULFILLED, "UNTIL" it IS "MANIFESTED" "REVEALED."

"A son", born of Mary, WAS manifested.
* THAT "son"... was LATER, "revealed"
...The Word of God, The Light, The Son of God, The Quickening Spirit, The Christ, The Holy One, The Truth, The Way, The Life, God.

Catholics, Teach and Preach...what WAS KNOWLEDGE "Manifested and Revealed"..."AFTER" Jesus' BIRTH...and FALSELY "apply" it TO "BEFORE" Jesus' BIRTH....BY using, A MINDFUL LOGICAL CONCLUSION and the word....... THEREFORE

We certainly CAN KNOW Trust and Believe;
The KNOWLEDGE Foretold and "REVEALED" AFTER Jesus BIRTH that Jesus, IS the Word of God, the Son of God, the Christ, the Quickening Spirit, the True Light, the Way, the Truth, the Light, God IN the "FLESH LIKENESS AS A MAN"...

But THOSE THINGS...WERE NOT manifested..."UNTIL" AFTER His birth.

The TRUTH IS...God is without beginning or ending. God has no mother or father.
To TEACH and PREACH a Creation of God, Created God, IS A LIE.