Why, What For, Christ's Future 1,000 Years Reign?

Davy · Oct 13, 2021

The Revelation 20 Scripture is emphatic that at Christ's return, when the Revelation beast's reign has ended, there will then be a "thousand years" reign over the nations by Lord Jesus and His elect. There is a doctrine of men that started in the 2nd century A.D. called Amillennialism that goes directly against this written Scripture. Don't be deceived by it, for the Scripture events are clear that the future 1,000 years reign by Jesus will be literal.

Rev 20:1-6
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Later verses will prove beyond all doubt that the above locking Satan in his pit prison for a thousand years will only happen after Christ's future return. But truly, we should know that just by that simple mention of Satan being bound for that period of... "a thousand years".

We know that did not happen in the Apostle's day, because Peter warned the Church that Satan, as a roaring lion, walks about seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). The next verse here reveals Satan won't be able to do that once this locking in the pit for a "thousand years" takes place in the future...

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

If that was already history, like some believe that thousand years started by Lord Jesus' crucifixion, then how many years have already passed today? Almost 2,000 years since Christ's death on the cross in 29 A.D. Just when then, was Satan loosed in final 1,000 years after Christ's death on the cross? As you can see, that idea is pretty silly, and does not fit this Scripture Witness at all.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

That is so simple that it begins at the start of Christ's future return. The Revelation beast is for the very end of this world, just prior to Christ's future return. We learn this even on the 6th Trumpet timing of Revelation 11 when the beast that ascends up out of the bottomless pit kills God's two witnesses in Jerusalem during the "great tribulation". The next events there point to Christ's coming on the 7th Trumpet.

That one that ascends is not about a pope, nor any such historical figure as that 'beast', but only one who can ascend out of the bottomless pit. What pit? Well, what "bottomless pit" is being talked about here in Revelation 20, and who is it locked into it when the above verses take place?

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

I don't know about you, but none of us in Christ Jesus become 'priests' in His Kingdom until His return in our near future. As of right now, we are simply members of His Body, His Church, and are promised to reign with Him as kings and priests if we remain faithful to Him, waiting for His return. Those positions are part of His rewards to His elect faithful Church.

Rev 20:7-8
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
KJV

That above reveals the "nations which are in the four quarters of the earth" will still exist after Christ's future return. That is who Jesus will reign over with the "rod of iron" promised Him per Psalms 2. That reign over the nations with Him He also promised His faithful Church per Revelation 2:25-27.

Rev 20:9-12
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Where does the above show that "beloved city" and that "camp of the saints" is located then? It will be "up on the breadth of the earth"! So you mean our destination when Lord Jesus gathers us at His coming is going to be to that location, on earth?? Yes, exactly! The Zechariah 14 Scripture reveals this more plainly. But not many of my Christian brethren hear much taught from that Zechariah 14 Chapter regarding Christ's future return. (And the orthodox Jew that has crept into Christ's Church and hides, certainly does not like that Zechariah 14 prophecy revealed to the Church either. Thus your duty to study it brethren in Christ Jesus.)

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him That sat on it, from Whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
KJV

That shows at the end of the "thousand years", that is when God's Great White Throne Judgment will happen, and the dead (unsaved) will be judged to see if any of their names are found in the Book of Life. After that, those who still reject Jesus will go into the "lake of fire" along with the abode of hell, and the concept of death. Only then will God's Eternity begin.

Davy · Oct 13, 2021

So WHY... are the 'dead' judged to see if any of their names are found in the Book of Life per the following?

Rev 20:12-13
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
KJV

The "dead" in that time represent the unsaved. Jesus revealed at His coming the "resurrection of damnation" will happen along with the "resurrection of life", per John 5:28-29. And to know the why of that is simple. As long as one rejects Lord Jesus as their Saviour, then they are still "dead" inside, their soul being spiritually dead, and still liable to perish in the future "lake of fire". This is so whether one is still alive in the flesh on earth, or passed on and is in hell like the "rich man" of Luke 16. Their souls are still 'mortal', meaning liable to die. Being 'born again' through Jesus' Blood shed upon His cross makes our 'soul' and 'spirit' inside our flesh literally born by The Spirit. We literally become "a new creature" like Apostle Paul taught, in which he was pointing spiritually to our soul-spirit.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV

Since those of the 1st resurrection do not go through this final Judgment, and are not subject to the "second death", then Why... are these judged to see if their names are written in that Book of Life?

Did you know that "book of life" involves names written in it that only apply to the 1st resurrection? (see also Revelation 21:27; Revelation 17:8; Revelation 13:8; Revelation 3:5). Thus the idea of one's name written in the "book of life" equals Christ's Salvation!

So if these "dead" are judged by that "book of life", to see if any of their names are in it, that would mean what for them? It would mean they became SAVED during... that "thousand years"!!! It should be no mystery that not all of those unsaved nations we in Christ are to reign over with Jesus in that future time will follow Satan in his final loosing out of his pit.

This is WHY... Revelation 20 mentions a "first resurrection". If you label something as the 'first', then it means what? It means there is at least one more, a second. Just what KIND of resurrection is the 1st resurrection? It one unto Eternal Life through Jesus for those who's names are written... in that "book of life"! This means, there will be another 'resurrection unto life' in Jesus at this GWT Judgment. Not all the "dead" are going into the future "lake of fire". Some will believe on Jesus during... His 1,000 years reign! Well, which ones do we already know of that will believe in that future time???

The unbelieving Jews of Apostle Paul's brethren that God blinded per Romans 11 for one example. Zechariah 12 shows when Jesus appears, they will mourn for Him like a long lost son. Paul said all Israel will be saved, and quotes from the prophets, per Romans 11. Jesus revealed that even the false Jews, who lie and say they are Jews, but are not, and are the synagogue of Satan, will be made to come worship at the feet of His elect of the Church of Philadelphia (Revelation 3:9). So even some of those might turn to Christ during that future 1,000 years.

One of jobs of the Old Testament priest of the Levites was to read God's Word to the congregation, and given them the meaning, to teach the difference between the clean and unclean. That is what the job of Christ's priests will be in that future 1,000 time, to teach those blinded away from The Gospel during this present world.

nenagana · Oct 13, 2021

"Christ's Future 1000 Years"
(humanity will die knowing no judgment, and Christianity above all will die the most wickedly believing that Christ will return and Reign, teaching that, it was not necessary to answer the dead flesh accusation but that all men receive payment for their sin with god @ the Second Coming, this is blasphemy against the holy ghost/spirit (god does not make payment for all men for the new universe)) This is only one possible conclusion back to topic

"1000 Years"

God Said:
430 Years in Egypt - Exodus 12:30
430 Years for Jerusalem (counted with Joseph) - Ezekiel 4:5-6

490 Years of Daniel's Prophecy - Daniel 9:24
490 Years for Jerusalem (counted with Joseph) - Acts 13:20-21

80 Years - Declaration - Psalms 90:9-10
80 Years - Moses took Joseph Bones (counted with Joseph 80 Years) - Exodus 7:7

(Nguyen Van Lem, proved, mankind was not entitled to anything more then, a dead body and energies form that (baptism of the dead - bible), no sign, no vision, no special judgment...........when Moses was born, that fulfilled the law, dead or alive is not important) (to humanities death in 2061 A.D. is about 80 years from his birth, Jesus said himself moses was the marker for the divorce/death of humanity)

(god counted moses lifespan after their suicide pleasure, and that is a prophecy, moses lifespan in the old testament is not viewed as a finished law, aaron his soulmate acted that out in that day, not moses)

(technically, with or without a dead body, suicide pleasure with moses, and that is your covenant, satisfied the law with god for humanity) (but its good if and when you obtain a dead body...............humanity is a corpse but spiritually, god saves out of this cesspool)

Jesus Said:
MATTHEW 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

"Jesus 12 Years"
"Joseph 17 Years"
"Jesus 30 Years"
"Daniel 10:2-3" = 21
80 Years Total = 1000 Years
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When we see people die in mass from RABIES, at that time the ignorance of the christian community will not have any pleasure...............it depends on how many people die, weather or not there is a controversy about where RABIES developed originally, before following the earth's energy network and populations clusters, with variance to those unclean genetic lines and earth lines
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Secondary Answer

Jesus has no "Kingship"................people rewrite the bible to much, but there's no supporting evidence.
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King David had a "Kingship"............and it says in the book of revelation that King David is the Lion of Judah (a title traditionally reserved for Jesus.......it is from matthew's genealogy where the kings of judah are listed we see jesus)

I KINGS 2:11 And the days that David reigned over Israel [were] forty years: seven years reigned he in Hebron, and thirty and three years reigned he in Jerusalem.

Humanities Death 2061 A.D............we see a figure that is easily obtained in how the bible views "joseph" division in the last 80 years.............this is roughly 2028 A.D..........or "33 Years Difference"..................

God Sets Things into Motion
Daniel's Prophecy = No Sign and No Vision, the material was written without a controversy of "suicide pleasure with dead flesh"............no value, or you can say, some resemblances with the other planets

The Book of Revelation = Covid19 to RABIES.........that is "1260+1260" ..... plus ......."1000 days" approximately, more or less

The Book of Revelation = Earth's Field//Dead Flesh, the "1000 Year Argument", maybe the last 33 years before humanities death.

Right now we are commanded to keep watch, the more important things is that, the few souls god saves out of humanities cesspool, no sign no vision. When humanity does die, finally, its no big deal. With or without god's mercies, or with god's mercies resolving the argument or not.

(I suspect that the first Covid19 deaths took place in Jerusalem/Isreal, not asia............its easy to conceal things..............but if a considerable number die quickly, the truth will be know, if that is true...........more will just die next time suddenly, even the pleasure of suicide secretly with a conspiracy to use the nations for payment for sin in a conflict may fall through, perhaps with god blessing the loss of more jewis* lives in jerusalem, soon, maybe next year)

(the people that know what had happened, know also that, its for god's discernment, to perhaps make things clearly the next time)

EDIT

"joseph 17 years old testament"
"joseph 30 years new testament"
"joseph 33 years, david the lion of judah rev.5:5, his 33 year statement of kingship that was not fulfilled in his day"

this 80 year period when moses took joseph's bones is the parallel, that value for "suicide pleasure" was not counted in that day with moses, it is today.

the christian community will die believing that God will send Jesus to reign for 1000 years, but they will die in vain also, we have to keep watch, the more important issue is the climax of perhaps seeing 1 to 2 billion people die, and removing apart of this controversy in the human dirth charge.

Truth7t7 · Oct 15, 2021

Davy said:
The Revelation 20 Scripture is emphatic that at Christ's return, when the Revelation beast's reign has ended, there will then be a "thousand years" reign over the nations by Lord Jesus and His elect. There is a doctrine of men that started in the 2nd century A.D. called Amillennialism that goes directly against this written Scripture. Don't be deceived by it, for the Scripture events are clear that the future 1,000 years reign by Jesus will be literal.

Rev 20:1-6
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Later verses will prove beyond all doubt that the above locking Satan in his pit prison for a thousand years will only happen after Christ's future return. But truly, we should know that just by that simple mention of Satan being bound for that period of... "a thousand years".

We know that did not happen in the Apostle's day, because Peter warned the Church that Satan, as a roaring lion, walks about seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). The next verse here reveals Satan won't be able to do that once this locking in the pit for a "thousand years" takes place in the future...

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

If that was already history, like some believe that thousand years started by Lord Jesus' crucifixion, then how many years have already passed today? Almost 2,000 years since Christ's death on the cross in 29 A.D. Just when then, was Satan loosed in final 1,000 years after Christ's death on the cross? As you can see, that idea is pretty silly, and does not fit this Scripture Witness at all.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

That is so simple that it begins at the start of Christ's future return. The Revelation beast is for the very end of this world, just prior to Christ's future return. We learn this even on the 6th Trumpet timing of Revelation 11 when the beast that ascends up out of the bottomless pit kills God's two witnesses in Jerusalem during the "great tribulation". The next events there point to Christ's coming on the 7th Trumpet.

That one that ascends is not about a pope, nor any such historical figure as that 'beast', but only one who can ascend out of the bottomless pit. What pit? Well, what "bottomless pit" is being talked about here in Revelation 20, and who is it locked into it when the above verses take place?

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

I don't know about you, but none of us in Christ Jesus become 'priests' in His Kingdom until His return in our near future. As of right now, we are simply members of His Body, His Church, and are promised to reign with Him as kings and priests if we remain faithful to Him, waiting for His return. Those positions are part of His rewards to His elect faithful Church.

Rev 20:7-8
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
KJV

That above reveals the "nations which are in the four quarters of the earth" will still exist after Christ's future return. That is who Jesus will reign over with the "rod of iron" promised Him per Psalms 2. That reign over the nations with Him He also promised His faithful Church per Revelation 2:25-27.

Rev 20:9-12
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Where does the above show that "beloved city" and that "camp of the saints" is located then? It will be "up on the breadth of the earth"! So you mean our destination when Lord Jesus gathers us at His coming is going to be to that location, on earth?? Yes, exactly! The Zechariah 14 Scripture reveals this more plainly. But not many of my Christian brethren hear much taught from that Zechariah 14 Chapter regarding Christ's future return. (And the orthodox Jew that has crept into Christ's Church and hides, certainly does not like that Zechariah 14 prophecy revealed to the Church either. Thus your duty to study it brethren in Christ Jesus.)

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him That sat on it, from Whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
KJV

That shows at the end of the "thousand years", that is when God's Great White Throne Judgment will happen, and the dead (unsaved) will be judged to see if any of their names are found in the Book of Life. After that, those who still reject Jesus will go into the "lake of fire" along with the abode of hell, and the concept of death. Only then will God's Eternity begin.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Davy · Oct 17, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived
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Yeah, there WILL BE a "thousand years" reign on earth AFTER Christ's future return to this earth, as written...

Rev 20:1-6
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

Curtis · Oct 19, 2021

The New Testament and Old Testament unequivocally prophesied Jesus’ literal unending kingdom on the earth, with Jesus ruling on the throne of David in Jerusalem.

In Acts 2 Jesus literally ascends bodily and visibly from Mount Olive, and the angel said this same Jesus will return in like manner as you have seen Him leave - meaning His literal return bodily and visibly back to Mount Olive.

Did Jesus really leave bodily and visibly on a cloud to ascend to heaven from mount Olive, or does the Amil advocate claim His ascension was not literal, either?

Because the angel said this same Jesus will return in like manner as you have seen Him leave:

Act 1:9And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.

Act 1:10And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes,

Act 1:11and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

Act 1:12Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away.

That means literally and visibly returning on a cloud, in the air, back to Mount Olive - which occurs in Zechariah 14:5.

And occurs in Revelation 1:7

Rev 1:7Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

And occurs in 1 Thessalonians 4:

1Th 4:17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

And Matthew 24:30:

Mat 24:30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

It is preposterous to claim He doesn’t literally and visibly return to earth on a cloud exactly as He left.

In Zechariah 14:5Jesus literally returns to Mount Olive with all the saints with Him - where He then remains, and the nations such as Egypt come into the gates of Jerusalem to worship Jesus, (Zechariah14:16-19) who will be literally and bodily sitting on the throne of David, forever.

Both the new and old testaments prophesied His earthly and unending kingdom:

Luk 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the THRONE of his father David:

Luke 1:33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Isa 9:7Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the THRONE of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

1Ki 2:45And king Solomon shall beblessed, and the THRONE of David shall be established before the LORD for ever.

Jeremiah 23:5-6“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness; a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell safely; now this is His name by which He will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS”

In Revelation 21, The New Jerusalem which is above, descends to earth to old Jerusalem, and God and the lamb dwell in it with men forever, and Jesus says this about that city in Revelation 3:12:

Rev 3:12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

It’s Literal fact in scripture that there will be a unending literal and physical reign of Christ on the earth, and not just for a thousand years.

Jesus is currently sitting in heaven at the father’s right hand UNTIL the time is right to return to earth:

Psalm 110:1A Psalm of David.The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”

Psalm 110:2The LORD sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule IN THE MIDST of your enemies!

Note that Jesus will not rule His kingdom from heaven, but on the earth, in the midst of His enemies.

He will return and land on mount Olive with all His saints per Zechariah 14:5, given earlier, where He will rule and reign from Jerusalem on the throne of David, which is established forever:

1Ki 2:45And king Solomon shall be blessed, and the throne of David shall be established before the LORD for ever.

And we shall reign and rule with Jesus in His kingdom, on the earth:

Rev 5:10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The millennium period isn’t a temporary reign of Jesus - it’s the period where Satan is bound for a thousand years at the beginning of His eternal reign on earth, so all of creation, including the angels, get to see the contrast between the world being ran by Satan as it’s god and ruler for 4,000 years, with all the resulting evil, compared with Jesus ruling the nations with a rod of Iron for a thousand years in peace - then Satan is loosed for short time, and thrown into the lake of fire.

Luke 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Luke 1:33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Zephaniah also describes Jesus ruling on the earth in Jerusalem:

Zephaniah 3:14Sing aloud, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel! Rejoice and exult with all your heart, O daughter of Jerusalem!

Zephaniah 3:15The LORD has taken away the judgments against you; he has cleared away your enemies. The King of Israel, the LORD, is in your midst; you shall never again fear evil.

Zephaniah 3:16On that day it shall be said to Jerusalem: “Fear not, O Zion; let not your hands grow weak.

Zephaniah 3:17The LORD your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing.

There is no reason whatsoever to deny that the thousand year reign of Jesus on the earth in Revelation 20is literal - from the OT to the NT, it is literal fact that He will return physically to earth and rule from the throne of David, on Mount Zion.

Standing on Mount Zion: Why are they gathered on Mount Zion? Zion - the ancient name for the hills that make up Jerusalem - is the place where the Messiah gathers His redeemed and reigns over the earth (Psalms 48, Isa 24:23, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17and Oba 1:21, Mic 4:1; Mic 4:7).

Taken · Oct 19, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

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Taken · Oct 19, 2021

Why, What For, Christ's Future 1,000 Years Reign?
^ OP

Reviewing of the Big Picture from the Beginning of mankind.
* Noticed of Good and Evil.
* Noticed of Good acceptable to God.
* Noticed of Evil unacceptable to God.
* Noticed of mankinds Freewill.
* Noticed of God Offering, Power, to MAKE a willing man, acceptable to God.
* Noticed of Gods Divisions.
* Noticed of Gods Separations of the divided.
* Good with God, Evil & Wicked divided from good and ultimately separated from God.
* God IS Just.
* All shall have as they Freely Chose:
With or Without the Lord God Almighty Forever.

The End of days (as we known them),
IS:
The RESTORATION of the Earthly World God Created and loved.
The RESTORATION of mankind God Created and loved....WHO freely chose TO LOVE Him.

This world was created FOR mankind.
As this world was being created BEFORE the first man was created and made....EVIL angels were cast out of their First Estate (Heaven), and allowed to make their abode ON Earth...They have reeked havoc, cunning influence upon mankind from the beginning of mankind.

The Lords Millennial Kingdom On Earth, IS purposed FOR the Last Remaining Mortals ON Earth...
TO: Be VOID of the "influence" of Evil Angels.
TO: HAVE the Word of God IN THEIR MOUTH...
TO: Govern their communities With the Word of God...
TO: Have "no excuse", pointing a FINGER at "powerful" Evil Angels have "beguiled" them.
TO: Each exercising their own FREEWILL, to choose to follow Gods Word, or mans word.
TO: Effect the Last Division and Separation;
Of those WITH God and those WITHOUT God.
TO: Fulfill Gods Word of Prophecy.

Glory to God,
Taken

Curtis · Oct 19, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom? Jerusalem, Mount Zion

2.) Physical Earthly Throne? The throne of David in Jerusalem .

3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

Zechariah 14:16-21

BTW where do you think Satan gets the nations armies to surround Jerusalem to attack Jesus, at the end of the thousand years?

Zechariah 14:16-21 those heathen nations including Egypt.

Truth7t7 · Oct 19, 2021

Curtis said:
Zechariah 14:16-21

BTW where do you think Satan gets the nations armies to surround Jerusalem to attack Jesus, at the end of the thousand years?

Zechariah 14:16-21 those heathen nations including Egypt.

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Truth7t7 · Oct 19, 2021

Curtis said:
Zechariah 14:16-21

BTW where do you think Satan gets the nations armies to surround Jerusalem to attack Jesus, at the end of the thousand years?

Zechariah 14:16-21 those heathen nations including Egypt.

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Truth7t7 · Oct 19, 2021

Curtis said:
Zechariah 14:16-21

BTW where do you think Satan gets the nations armies to surround Jerusalem to attack Jesus, at the end of the thousand years?

Zechariah 14:16-21 those heathen nations including Egypt.

When Jesus Christ Returns It Will Be (The End) Not The Start Of A Millennial Kingdom On Earth

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

michaelvpardo · Oct 19, 2021

The reward of the saints and the judgment of the heavenly host.

Davy · Oct 28, 2021

Curtis said:
The New Testament and Old Testament unequivocally prophesied Jesus’ literal unending kingdom on the earth, with Jesus ruling on the throne of David in Jerusalem.

In Acts 2 Jesus literally ascends bodily and visibly from Mount Olive, and the angel said this same Jesus will return in like manner as you have seen Him leave - meaning His literal return bodily and visibly back to Mount Olive.

Did Jesus really leave bodily and visibly on a cloud to ascend to heaven from mount Olive, or does the Amil advocate claim His ascension was not literal, either?

Because the angel said this same Jesus will return in like manner as you have seen Him leave:

Act 1:9And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.

Act 1:10And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes,

Act 1:11and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

Act 1:12Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away.

That means literally and visibly returning on a cloud, in the air, back to Mount Olive - which occurs in Zechariah 14:5.

And occurs in Revelation 1:7

Rev 1:7Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

And occurs in 1 Thessalonians 4:

1Th 4:17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

And Matthew 24:30:

Mat 24:30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

It is preposterous to claim He doesn’t literally and visibly return to earth on a cloud exactly as He left.

In Zechariah 14:5Jesus literally returns to Mount Olive with all the saints with Him - where He then remains, and the nations such as Egypt come into the gates of Jerusalem to worship Jesus, (Zechariah14:16-19) who will be literally and bodily sitting on the throne of David, forever.

Both the new and old testaments prophesied His earthly and unending kingdom:

Luk 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the THRONE of his father David:

Luke 1:33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Isa 9:7Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the THRONE of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

1Ki 2:45And king Solomon shall beblessed, and the THRONE of David shall be established before the LORD for ever.

Jeremiah 23:5-6“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness; a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell safely; now this is His name by which He will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS”

In Revelation 21, The New Jerusalem which is above, descends to earth to old Jerusalem, and God and the lamb dwell in it with men forever, and Jesus says this about that city in Revelation 3:12:

Rev 3:12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

It’s Literal fact in scripture that there will be a unending literal and physical reign of Christ on the earth, and not just for a thousand years.

Jesus is currently sitting in heaven at the father’s right hand UNTIL the time is right to return to earth:

Psalm 110:1A Psalm of David.The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”

Psalm 110:2The LORD sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule IN THE MIDST of your enemies!

Note that Jesus will not rule His kingdom from heaven, but on the earth, in the midst of His enemies.

He will return and land on mount Olive with all His saints per Zechariah 14:5, given earlier, where He will rule and reign from Jerusalem on the throne of David, which is established forever:

1Ki 2:45And king Solomon shall be blessed, and the throne of David shall be established before the LORD for ever.

And we shall reign and rule with Jesus in His kingdom, on the earth:

Rev 5:10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The millennium period isn’t a temporary reign of Jesus - it’s the period where Satan is bound for a thousand years at the beginning of His eternal reign on earth, so all of creation, including the angels, get to see the contrast between the world being ran by Satan as it’s god and ruler for 4,000 years, with all the resulting evil, compared with Jesus ruling the nations with a rod of Iron for a thousand years in peace - then Satan is loosed for short time, and thrown into the lake of fire.

Luke 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Luke 1:33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Zephaniah also describes Jesus ruling on the earth in Jerusalem:

Zephaniah 3:14Sing aloud, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel! Rejoice and exult with all your heart, O daughter of Jerusalem!

Zephaniah 3:15The LORD has taken away the judgments against you; he has cleared away your enemies. The King of Israel, the LORD, is in your midst; you shall never again fear evil.

Zephaniah 3:16On that day it shall be said to Jerusalem: “Fear not, O Zion; let not your hands grow weak.

Zephaniah 3:17The LORD your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing.

There is no reason whatsoever to deny that the thousand year reign of Jesus on the earth in Revelation 20is literal - from the OT to the NT, it is literal fact that He will return physically to earth and rule from the throne of David, on Mount Zion.

Standing on Mount Zion: Why are they gathered on Mount Zion? Zion - the ancient name for the hills that make up Jerusalem - is the place where the Messiah gathers His redeemed and reigns over the earth (Psalms 48, Isa 24:23, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17and Oba 1:21, Mic 4:1; Mic 4:7).

Good presentation.

The deceived Amill folks like to slyly use the "thousand years" as a limited reign to try and pry us away from the Scripture as written which you showed. The end of the 1,000 years does not end Lord Jesus' reign. It's like you said from Scripture, the 1,000 years is just the beginning of Christ's Eternal reign on earth.

Davy · Nov 2, 2021

Curtis said:
Zechariah 14:16-21

BTW where do you think Satan gets the nations armies to surround Jerusalem to attack Jesus, at the end of the thousand years?

Zechariah 14:16-21 those heathen nations including Egypt.

We are given in Ezekiel 38 the nation alignment of Gog and Magog for the last day of this present world, at Armageddon. (Russia, Libya, Persia which is put Iran, Iraq; Ethiopia which is for later splits off from old Ethiopia like Sudan; Gomer which represent northern ex-Soviet satellites like Georgia; and old Cappadocia which represent the area of Turkey.) Only Turkey today is still yet to be allied with Gog, but Turkey is a Muslim nation, and Russia is trying to turn it.

But for after Christ's future 1,000 years of Rev.20, when Satan is loosed one final time to go deceive the nations, it is not shown the nation alignment. Yet per the end of Zechariah 14 we are shown that the nations will still be able to refuse to come up to Jerusalem to worship The KING from year to year, and there will be no rain upon their lands because of that. So I surmise it will be those nations that will also fall to Satan in coming upon the "camp of the saints" on the last day of the future Millennium per Revelation 20:9 forward. In that time Gog and Magog simply represents the rebellious, and we are not told how many and who exactly they are.

In the Zechariah 14:16 verse about those leftovers of the nations that came up against Jerusalem (on the last day of this world), that is not... about God's chosen Israel. That is about the Gentile nations that serve Satan's host in trying to destroy Israel on the last day. Within the body of Israel's people, it can also represent the "tares" hiding among the good wheat (Judah), that will make a pact with the false Messiah, like these...

Dan 11:21-23
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
KJV

I believe that means the coming Antichrist (that "vile person") will be setup in Jerusalem by that "small people", meaning a certain small group of Jews (but hidden "tares" posing as Jews that will be in power).

Dan 11:30-31
30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
KJV

I believe that's about those crept in unawares among Judah that will be behind that false Messiah being setup in Jerusalem for the end, and helping in promoting that "abomination of desolation" idol. Those are the real "synagogue of Satan" that say they are Jews, but lie and are not real Jews, according to Lord Jesus. They represent the "tares" of Matthew 13.

nenagana · Nov 3, 2021

Davy said:
Good presentation.

The deceived Amill folks like to slyly use the "thousand years" as a limited reign to try and pry us away from the Scripture as written which you showed. The end of the 1,000 years does not end Lord Jesus' reign. It's like you said from Scripture, the 1,000 years is just the beginning of Christ's Eternal reign on earth.

Joseph=Jesus = 1000 years

Galatians 3:17//Exodus 12:41 = 430 Years (says the measurement is jesus)
(434 Years or 62 Weeks of Daniel)
JOHN 11:17 Jesus [lain] in the grave four days already.
Acts 13:20-23//Daniel 9:24 = 490 Years (says the measurement is jesus)
Luke 3:23 = 30 Years (says the measurement is jesus)
John 2:20 = 46 Years (says the measurement is jesus)

Turin Shroud of Jesus 1997 + 4 Years or 1600 Days = 9/11/2001 Falling Man Moses = 1000 Years Total

(if we double "threescore and two" from daniel's prophecy, we obtain approximately 64 Years.................from 9/11/2001 to Halley's Comet = 60 Years, and from 1997 Turin Shroud of Jesus to 9/11/2001 = 4 Years...............this completed 1000 Years of the Revelation)
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(try to use the king james bible or the young's translation of the greek bible, the reason is the name jesus is removed from most modern bible along with the name joseph it will be difficult to impossible to make the association to the figure of 1000, and the gospel's use of those names)

This is what we say, pray faithfully, live and die, enjoy a good movie, work hard and have a little fun, let the world die dumb and blind...............suffer a little, the unclean will fell your pain and death 10 to 1000 times, and will go away blind and dumb also. Everything is Resolved.

Davy · Nov 8, 2021

Something to remember brethren, NO MAN knows the day or hour of Christ's 2nd coming. We can only know the "times and the seasons" of His coming that Apostle Paul pointed to. That involves the Signs Lord Jesus and His Apostles gave of events leading up to His 2nd coming to gather His Church and pour out His wrath upon the wicked. Only then will His future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 begin, which is only the start of His Eternal reign.

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