Luke 1:43

David in NJ · Oct 20, 2021

theefaith said:
an Attack on Mary and the saints, or the authority of the apostles or the church or rejection of such doctrines is and attack on God and on Christ!
Acts 9:4 Eph 5:32

Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior - she currently is worshipping at the feet of the LORD JESUS CHRIST - so are the Apostles.

For there is no other Name given among men whereby we must be saved - Acts 4

Praying to Mary or anyone other then the LJC is forbidden and idolatry.

theefaith · Oct 20, 2021

David in NJ said:
Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior - she currently is worshipping at the feet of the LORD JESUS CHRIST - so are the Apostles.

For there is no other Name given among men whereby we must be saved - Acts 4

Praying to Mary or anyone other then the LJC is forbidden and idolatry.

mary was never a sinner, but has her son as her savior

prayer is not forbidden or idolatry

You right idolatry and worship anything but God is forbidden

David in NJ · Oct 20, 2021

theefaith said:
mary was never a sinner, but has her son as her savior

prayer is not forbidden or idolatry

You right idolatry and worship anything but God is forbidden

Mary was never a sinner??? - either you or God are mistaken.
i trust God on this one.

Praying to anyone other then to the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father is faithlessness and contrary to the Scriptures, the Lord and the Apostles teachings.

Robert Gwin · Oct 21, 2021

David in NJ said:
True Christians follow, obey and WORSHIP the LORD = Jesus the Christ

So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does. 20The Father loves the Son and shows Him all He does. And to your amazement, He will show Him even greater works than these. 21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes. 22Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son,
23so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.
Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

Two PERSONS are Present and Equal here = Father and SON = Elohim and LORD

Best obey Jesus David. Study up on what LORD means when it is found in the Bible. You may be surprised sir

Robert Gwin · Oct 21, 2021

theefaith said:
yes there is a s only one God

To us Christians the Bible says at 1 Cor 8:5, but it also states there are many gods and lords, in reality however there are 2 real Gods according to the Bible, and each are vying for your allegiance. Both are quite successful, but One will prove Superior in the future.

David in NJ · Oct 21, 2021

Robert Gwin said:
Best obey Jesus David. Study up on what LORD means when it is found in the Bible. You may be surprised sir

The LORD that i know, personally and intimately, walked with Adam & Eve in the Garden and appeared before Moses.

This LORD came to earth = The WORD was God in the beginning and the WORD became flesh and we beheld His Glory.
Immanuel, God with us = Before Abraham IAM = I am the Lord, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another,
For I am the Lord your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
“You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
11I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior.

And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,
whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior

The LORD prayed to His Father in John 17 = this is my LORD and Savior and i am His witness

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

David in NJ said:
Mary was never a sinner??? - either you or God are mistaken.
i trust God on this one.

Praying to anyone other then to the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father is faithlessness and contrary to the Scriptures, the Lord and the Apostles teachings.

where does it say “Mary is a sinner”?

James 5:16
The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

rev 5;8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

David in NJ · Oct 21, 2021

The LORD Jesus Christ said Mary was included with the whole world under sin.

Now as Jesus was going out on the road, one came running, knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?”
So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. Mark 10:17-18

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

Robert Gwin said:
To us Christians the Bible says at 1 Cor 8:5, but it also states there are many gods and lords, in reality however there are 2 real Gods according to the Bible, and each are vying for your allegiance. Both are quite successful, but One will prove Superior in the future.

no there is only one God capital G
Eternal and uncreated

Many are called gods but are not
Figure of speach

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

David in NJ said:
The LORD Jesus Christ said Mary was included with the whole world under sin.

Now as Jesus was going out on the road, one came running, knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?”
So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. Mark 10:17-18

nothing about sin

goodness is in grace and God is the source of grace

Mary is what she is cos God created Her
She is not that way by nature but by grace
And grace is merited by Christ and comes from God

David in NJ · Oct 21, 2021

theefaith said:
nothing about sin

goodness is in grace and God is the source of grace

Mary is what she is cos God created Her
She is not that way by nature but by grace
And grace is merited by Christ and comes from God

Nothing about sin??? take a look at what the LORD was saying for He was quoting Scripture to prove the TRUTH.

The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
They have all turned aside,
They have together become corrupt;
There is none who does good,
No, not one.

Mary was born in sin - Grace covered her sins through faith in the Savior = the Word that became flesh.

Mary cannot hear your prayers and even if she could she would turn away from them because of the disgrace to place anyone before the LORD.

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

David in NJ said:
Nothing about sin??? take a look at what the LORD was saying for He was quoting Scripture to prove the TRUTH.

The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
They have all turned aside,
They have together become corrupt;
There is none who does good,
No, not one.

Mary was born in sin - Grace covered her sins through faith in the Savior = the Word that became flesh.

Mary cannot hear your prayers and even if she could she would turn away from them because of the disgrace to place anyone before the LORD.

No that’s not even close to what the one true church founded by Christ on Peter matt 16:18 teaches without error Jn 16:13

Ineffabilis Deus
The Immaculate Conception
Pope BI. Pius IX - 1854

“We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.”

Gen 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
(Enmities total war, none of satan’s works found in Her immaculate purity)

Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
(Immaculate purity, full of grace, blessed)

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
(Mary must have immaculate purity)

Lk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. (Preserved from all sin in virtue of the merits of the blood of the savior who is Her son)

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
(Immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus)

Song of Solomon 4:1 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.

Rev 12:1 a woman clothed with the sun.
(Immaculate purity)

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

Biblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary!
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

David in NJ · Oct 21, 2021

theefaith said:
No that’s not even close to what the one true church founded by Christ on Peter matt 16:18 teaches without error Jn 16:13

Ineffabilis Deus
The Immaculate Conception
Pope BI. Pius IX - 1854

“We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.”

Gen 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
(Enmities total war, none of satan’s works found in Her immaculate purity)

Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
(Immaculate purity, full of grace, blessed)

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
(Mary must have immaculate purity)

Lk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. (Preserved from all sin in virtue of the merits of the blood of the savior who is Her son)

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
(Immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus)

Song of Solomon 4:1 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.

Rev 12:1 a woman clothed with the sun.
(Immaculate purity)

Your idolatry will be exposed when your time comes.

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

David in NJ said:
Your idolatry will be exposed when your time comes.

what idolatry?

what idol?

what adoration worship or sacrifice is offered to an idol?

explaining a doctrine cannot be idolatry

theefaith · Oct 21, 2021

Christ saves two ways

forgives our sins and preserves us from future sins by his grace

Mary was preserved in the first Mk of her creation in preparation for being the mother of God and theotokos God bearer Isa 7:14

Robert Gwin · Oct 22, 2021

David in NJ said:
The LORD that i know, personally and intimately, walked with Adam & Eve in the Garden and appeared before Moses.

This LORD came to earth = The WORD was God in the beginning and the WORD became flesh and we beheld His Glory.
Immanuel, God with us = Before Abraham IAM = I am the Lord, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another,
For I am the Lord your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
“You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
11I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior.

And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,
whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior

The LORD prayed to His Father in John 17 = this is my LORD and Savior and i am His witness

Actually Dave, everywhere LORD (all Caps) is found in the Bible, it was where God's name Jehovah was originally. The translator chose to alter it to Adonai. A great example to view this is found at Psalms 110:1, which should be rendered Jehovah said to my Lord, not the LORD said to my Lord.

Robert Gwin · Oct 22, 2021

theefaith said:
no there is only one God capital G
Eternal and uncreated

Many are called gods but are not
Figure of speach

I agree. Jehovah is God, satan the other real god would rate a small g as well as any other gods who have no significance. When I refer to Jehovah as in there are two real Gods, I would never use a small g, but the capital G was not inferred by typing that would apply equally to satan. I refuse even to capitalize the s as well.

David in NJ · Oct 22, 2021

Robert Gwin said:
Actually Dave, everywhere LORD (all Caps) is found in the Bible, it was where God's name Jehovah was originally. The translator chose to alter it to Adonai. A great example to view this is found at Psalms 110:1, which should be rendered Jehovah said to my Lord, not the LORD said to my Lord.

The LORD YEHOVAH is my SAVIOR and i am HIS witness unto all HE leads me to, even unto the ends of the earth.

If, the FATHER draws you, you will know YEHOVAH the SAVIOR who died and rose again.

theefaith · Oct 22, 2021

Robert Gwin said:
Actually Dave, everywhere LORD (all Caps) is found in the Bible, it was where God's name Jehovah was originally. The translator chose to alter it to Adonai. A great example to view this is found at Psalms 110:1, which should be rendered Jehovah said to my Lord, not the LORD said to my Lord.

does this verse refer to GOD?

Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

Luke 1:43

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