Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

Aunty Jane said:

In his original creation there was not a single creature who killed another for food. All creatures were vegetarians

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Aunty Jane said:

Only when Noah came out of the ark did God give man permission to eat the flesh of animals.....he does not tell us why.....but there had to be a good reason

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apparently frontal lobes more or less require it. Thinking takes a lot of energy, apparently.

Helen said:

….because there was no one else pure and holy enough.

I don’t understand the comment “just to convince himself to forgive us”!!!?

that part makes no sense to me. He needed no convincing because the Plan was made “before the foundation of the world “ …so….the Lamb was slain before the beginning.

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High Helen, always good to read your responses. As of lately I’ve been giving this a lot of thought, that is to say the lamb slain before,,,, the foundation of the world. Jesus is the creator of the worlds. History declares a new age began upon his death burial and resurrection, even our calendar declares this. I’ve recently came to the opinion that when scripture is quoted of the foundation, the foundation spoken of is not the foundation of the Genesis foundation account, but actually the world or age that was framed at Calvary. A new heavens and a new earth consisting of new creatures created or born of God having received the breath of life after the order of Christ.

we must each lay the “foundation of the world” for ourselves too

Aunty Jane said:

"Life for a life"..."blood for blood" was the payment in order for justice to be served

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under the law nearly every transgression requires blood huh aunty

so iow “was” is the likely op word there imo

Aunty Jane said:

It explains why Jesus had to come from outside the now defective human race in order to pay the redemption price. Nothing short of that would have repayed the debt

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ah, Nehushtan, yeh. So it turns out we are not freed from the law of sin and death after all, huh aunty. A son of man may die for our sins after all?
i tell you that Jacob was making, but he wasnt biting

My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?

There is only One Immortal
so i wouldnt be holding my breath or anything

also, according to many at the time, Jesus broke pretty much every law lol

little kids sin all the time, why do they get a pass?

but i see now that you were being facetious in the op, i guess?

Robert Gwin said:

Billy to Bible study teacher: Why did God have to send himself down to earth to become his own son to sacrifice himself just to convince himself to forgive us?

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and dont forget then apparently asked Himself for the cup to pass from Himself

So, likely because Esau needed him some red stew, or he would die

Lifelong_sinner said:

you must not realize that to deny the Trinity is a sign that you are not saved.

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Where is that in Scripture?

Lifelong_sinner said:

Unbelievable how much bad/false theology can exist on a christian forum…

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Do you hold all doctrine that is not yours to be bad/false theology?

Robert Gwin said:

The actual truth according to the Bible is that Jehovah sent His son Jesus to die in our behalf so that we might have life. Jn 3:16

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Very possibly He gave up the breath of life that we may receive it.

Robert Gwin said:

Jesus came down to earth for three reasons Bob, he said primarily to preach the good news of the Kingdom, like you mentioned Luke 4:43

He came to die as a sacrifice for what Adam lost, as you mentioned Rom 5:12

And although people never think of this, he came to prove that man can live a righteous life without sinning. Both perfect humans who existed prior sinned. He was able to prove satan a liar once again with his challenge to Jehovah recorded for us at Job 2:4, man can live a righteous life without violating any of God's laws. This will be a requirement after we are granted everlasting life.

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And I believe he came down to set an example for us.

Robert Gwin said:

Very much agree Devin. I look forward to the removal of those false teachers sir. Did you know that God has chosen the governments to do that? Rev 17:15-18 Shouldn't be too much longer before this happens.

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That sounds wonderful.

@Grailhunter
After reading your post quoted below I did laugh but it is not funny. In such a very short post really you did cover it very well. I laughed because I have heard them all so many times over the years.

"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us." Ecc 1:9-10

At least you are asking a whole lot some of the real questions that many people have. The ones who really love God may already have the answers required for them to walk on with Him and toward Him.

I won't pretend that I know all of the right or best answers, but I will try by breaking you post into several pieces to respond:

Grailhunter said:

It not a salvation issue. You and I have talked about that before.

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I do remember talking with you before but there have been so many conversations on so many subjects with so many people over the years on this forum and on many other forums, I cannot recall the details so I will have to go from blank...

It is a belief issue. Christianity makes sense, it is not a religion of non-sense...

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I sincerely agree even though the details of our individual beliefs may be diametrically opposed to each other as men understand it. It is fortunate that God understands everything so very well.

Aunty Jane said:

Actually it becomes really silly when you apply God-given logic, and the fact that there is no trinity in the Bible at all.

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The word trinity doesn't appear but the reality of the word coined to describe God as a triune Deity is explicitly and clearly spelled out!

Robert Gwin said:

The actual truth according to the Bible is that Jehovah sent His son Jesus to die in our behalf so that we might have life. Jn 3:16

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And I do not argue that. But Jesus is Yahweh with His Father as declared in Isaiah 44:

Isaiah 44:6
King James Version

6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.


In the Hebrew there are two Yahweh's speaking here as one:

1. Yahweh, the King of Israel
2. Yahweh, the redeemer who is yahweh of hosts.

Wrangler said:

Do you hold all doctrine that is not yours to be bad/false theology?

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i hold only doctrine from the WCF to be true. It clearly states the doctrine of the Trinity, as does 1 john 5:7.

Lifelong_sinner said:

i hold only doctrine from the WCF to be true. It clearly states the doctrine of the Trinity, as does 1 john 5:7.

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No. Neither WCF nor 1 John 5:7 state the doctrine of the trinity. In case you don't know, 1 john 5:7 is one of the most famous trinitarian corruptions of Scripture. Look into it.