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amadeus

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Many people will harp on their disabilities, and I get it. It also leads to a sad life of you are always in a state of why me this why me that, why God, why God did you do this to me...

“If God would just give me what I wanted you know, I would show more love to him, the Bible says that God will give the desires of your heart”
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I said the desire of your heart is according the to will of God; ...which is our focus on doing…

Paul did the Will of God.
Jesus did the Will of God.
The apostles did the Will of God.

Is mans Will the same as Gods?
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If out God should heal us, give God the glory! If He does not, also give God the glory!

If our will is not the same as God's will, who needs to change? The "desires of our heart" need to equal God's will!

"...O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Matt 26:39

"For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me." II Cor 12:8-9
 

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It is the most important thing, but Jesus and the Apostles used miraculous healings and signs and wonders to testify to the truth of the gospel. And so can we, according to whatever gift it is that we have received.
But let us always be led by the Holy Spirit even in using the gifts which God has given us. It is not always His time for physical healing. Should we tempt God or talk to Him?

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
...a time to die
... and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;" Ecc 3:1-3

Sometimes healing is to be done for the glory of God, but sometimes healing is Not part of His plan.

Are we hearing from God or are we following are own lead when we ask for God to heal a person we love and do not want to lose in this allotted time of ours?

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..."Heb 9:27
 
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It is the most important thing, but Jesus and the Apostles used miraculous healings and signs and wonders to testify to the truth of the gospel. And so can we, according to whatever gift it is that we have received.

Let us continue to support each other and pray for others friend.
 

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But let us always be led by the Holy Spirit even in using the gifts which God has given us. It is not always His time for physical healing. Should we tempt God or talk to Him?

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
...a time to die
... and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;" Ecc 3:1-3

Sometimes healing is to be done for the glory of God, but sometimes healing is Not part of His plan.

Are we hearing from God or are we following are own lead when we ask for God to heal a person we love and do not want to lose in this allotted time of ours?

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..."Heb 9:27
I think this is the attitude of faith that one should have when praying for the miraculous:

"...He is able to deliver us from the blazing fiery furnace and from your hand, O king. But even if He does not..." Daniel 3:17-18
 
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I think this is the attitude of faith that one should have when praying for the miraculous:

"...He is able to deliver us from the blazing fiery furnace and from your hand, O king. But even if He does not..." Daniel 3:17-18
Amen! When my old pastor's father used to be called the Indian healer back in the 1920's through the 1940's he learned to talk to God first before ever touching a person who came to him asking for healing. He would pray a prayer of faith for healing for someone only after receiving assurance in his own communication with God that it was God's will for him to do so. Many people were healed through his ministry.

The very first miracle for him was when God gave him a new set of lungs after the original ones had been severely damaged in the First World War. The Canadian Army sent him home from France to die as the physicians could not help him... Instead God got hold of him and He lived and ministered to thousands of others until his own death in the late 1940's.
 
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I don't see it as a cop out myself.

@MatthewG

We don't have to believe each other as we express our opinions of our perceptions of our experiences. Because at the end of the day, there are three things I regard,

We don't always understand correctly.
This is not a matter of saving faith.
Unity in Christ and the Holy Spirit are more important then that we all think the same thing in all respects.

I believe that as we commit ourselves in love to each other, and as we function in those gifts He gives us, then these other matters are addressed.

Much love!
Fair enough.
 
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