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Do you think UFOs and alien abductions are from dark forces?


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DuckieLady

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I think it would be cool if we discovered alien life out there in Outer space. I find it hard to believe that humans are the only intelligent life in the mass vastness of the cosmos. If we do make contact with aliens, than I hope they aren't hostile like we saw in the first Independence Day movie.

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I would much rather encounter little cute aliens, like E.T. instead.

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I laughed out loud at that second GIF.
 
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You're misinterpreting what I said. I did not say you're worshiping aliens. There are no aliens to be worshiped. lol
But you are believing a lie based on lying wonders, as Scripture says. I'm not going to veer on Scripture and try to mold it to something I want to believe.

Okay so this isn’t a lie first of all, it’s an unknown, where we speculate as to what these things are, based on what we’ve seen.
So here’s what we’ve seen:

1. Objects in space making incredible mid-turns in the air, pulling hundreds of G forces which would kill any human.
2. They hover in other instances with no propulsion technology
3. They submerge into water with ease
4. They leave atmosphere and go into space with ease
5. Personal testimonies of people being abducted.

Basically most Christians dismiss these as “demons” where as I and maybe a few other Christians in the minority, simply find this interesting. It’s an interesting topic of discussion and it’s even more interesting when we know for sure that life exists elsewhere.
Does this change anything in terms of my relationship to Jesus? No!
 

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Last night I turned on a space documentary for my kids, and it made me think about this. People had no idea how God's creation *actually* looked up there.

I'm talking about God's real life paintings:

best-space-photos-nasa-2014-002.jpg


So they had no idea about this. God held secrets and mysteries in the heavens. He does as he pleases.

If he chose to put insects on other planets, or anything else, he could do that.

As for UFOs, I don't pay attention. Seems like a lot of the UFOs we see in videos look more like falling debris and we shouldn't rule out that maybe some technology is hidden from us and aliens are a good cover up for that.
He is the Boss!
 

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Okay so this isn’t a lie first of all, it’s an unknown, where we speculate as to what these things are, based on what we’ve seen.
So here’s what we’ve seen:

1. Objects in space making incredible mid-turns in the air, pulling hundreds of G forces which would kill any human.
2. They hover in other instances with no propulsion technology
3. They submerge into water with ease
4. They leave atmosphere and go into space with ease
5. Personal testimonies of people being abducted.

Basically most Christians dismiss these as “demons” where as I and maybe a few other Christians in the minority, simply find this interesting. It’s an interesting topic of discussion and it’s even more interesting when we know for sure that life exists elsewhere.
Does this change anything in terms of my relationship to Jesus? No!
Demons are spirit. These ships have physical mass, though like watcher angels, I believe they can slide into other dimensions, or "heavens."
 

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Of course. The satanists are the same (at least in doctrine) ....do what thou wilt (or believe what you want). I choose truth.

No offense, but calling those who disagree you "Satanists" doesn't exactly give credence to your argument. Quite honestly, your posts give me the impression that you're smug, and you believe that anyone who disagrees with your biblical interpretation is beneath you and less Christian than you are. You can share your opinions and personal beliefs about this topic (or any subject) without disparaging other people. It just turns people off.
 
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1. Objects in space making incredible mid-turns in the air, pulling hundreds of G forces which would kill any human.
2. They hover in other instances with no propulsion technology
3. They submerge into water with ease
4. They leave atmosphere and go into space with ease
5. Personal testimonies of people being abducted.

That sounds like military technology. They can make glow-in-the-dark puppies, people invisible, a computer in your hand usable at any place and any time, and AI. And China's new space thing every one is worried about. I don't see why we should be surprised.

#5 I cannot explain. Any spiritual encounter I ever had, my body stayed in one spot.

I got pushed once but that was it.
 

TLHKAJ

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I don't know if there is life in other places, though it would explain why God made so many other places. What I do know is that my friend and I once encountered a strange being that appeared to be made out of light energy and shortly afterwards, we realized that we were missing an hour of time.
There was another time when I awoke, paralyzed and terrified, with a being that lit up my otherwise dark room. I couldn't even think. Then the word Jesus dropped into my head (that's just how it seemed) and the being, fear, paralyses and light were gone in an instant.
Seven years ago, when I knew my authority, I went outside in the middle of the day and right in front of me, no more than a hundred feet up, were 3 identical discs, each barely covered in a uniform layer of cloud perhaps 6 inches deep. They were NOT lenticular clouds, as I know what they are.
The funny thing is, when I saw them, I didn't realize until I came back in the house what they were. They didn't scare me at all. I've seen a single object and last summer, 3 at a farther distance. If I'd hadn't experienced them, I don't know what I'd think of them.
But becoming aware of my ancestry, it makes sense. They were exiled for worshipping these things. Only One is worthy to be worshipped. And that is the God of the bible! Father, Holy Spirit, Son, rejoice, the Lord our God is one!
There are some things I would like to say regarding your experiences and yet, idk if it's the right time. Do you remember the other day when you said there was something keeping you from "going there" with God? I want to say to you that your experiences are very very similar to near exact what many survivors of MK have experienced. And there are parts of my own experience that correlate deeply with this.

What our programmers wanted us to believe is that these are "gods" ...higher evolved life forms ...and that they are here watching and waiting to be revealed...and that there will be a "second coming" ....or return of these, and especially one ...."most illunined one." (We as Christians know him as antichrist.)

The great delusion is in progress.
 
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It's perhaps something like anti-gravity drive that makes them immune to the laws of physics. I've seen hundreds of them in tornado videos.
 

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Okay so this isn’t a lie first of all, it’s an unknown, where we speculate as to what these things are, based on what we’ve seen.
So here’s what we’ve seen:

1. Objects in space making incredible mid-turns in the air, pulling hundreds of G forces which would kill any human.
2. They hover in other instances with no propulsion technology
3. They submerge into water with ease
4. They leave atmosphere and go into space with ease
5. Personal testimonies of people being abducted.

Basically most Christians dismiss these as “demons” where as I and maybe a few other Christians in the minority, simply find this interesting. It’s an interesting topic of discussion and it’s even more interesting when we know for sure that life exists elsewhere.
Does this change anything in terms of my relationship to Jesus? No!
Again, another misinterpretation. I never said these phenomena do not happen. THEY MOST CERTAINLY DO! But they are not what you think.

Governments and militaries around the world have cooperated with fallen angels in order to acquire these technologies. They do exist. But they are fallen angel technologies, and surrounded with all sorts of evil .
 

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Demons are spirit. These ships have physical mass, though like watcher angels, I believe they can slide into other dimensions, or "heavens."

I mean calling them Demons is the short answer here Truman which I can’t disregard because we don’t know anything about these objects, BUT I don’t say that Demons IS THE Answer with absolute certainty.


That sounds like military technology. They can make glow-in-the-dark puppies, people invisible, a computer in your hand usable at any place and any time, and AI. And China's new space thing every one is worried about. I don't see why we should be surprised.

#5 I cannot explain. Any spiritual encounter I ever had, my body stayed in one spot.

I got pushed once but that was it.

“Secret Technology” is one answer which has been discussed in detail in several documentaries.
There are two problems with this theory:
1. If this is secret US military technology, they’ve done an amazing job in pretty much leap-frogging technology by several hundred years because the feats that these objects posses, are simply extraordinary to our current knowledge.
2. If another country like China, has developed these in secret and has surpassed USA, than USA has failed epically on the intelligence level and we should just close up our country and dissolve it.
 
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It's perhaps something like anti-gravity drive that makes them immune to the laws of physics. I've seen hundreds of them in tornado videos.
It's perhaps something like anti-gravity drive that makes them immune to the laws of physics. I've seen hundreds of them in tornado videos.
Curious what you think about Ezekiel 1 from your experience. Particularly verses 17-18.

"As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around."
 

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There are some things I would like to say regarding your experiences and yet, idk if it's the right time. Do you remember the other day when you said there was something keeping you from "going there" with God? I want to say to you that your experiences are very very similar to near exact what many survivors of MK have experienced. And there are parts of my own experience that correlate deeply with this.

What our programmers wanted us to believe is that these are "gods" ...higher evolved life forms ...and that they are here watching and waiting to be revealed...and that there will be a "second coming" ....or return of these, and especially one ...."most illunined one." (We as Christians know him as antichrist.)

The great delusion is in progress.
They're low-lifes, responsible ultimately for our King being nailed to a cross. We have our role in it, too. Can you imagine thinking you could compare to Him?
 

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No offense, but calling those who disagree you "Satanists" doesn't exactly give credence to your argument. Quite honestly, your posts give me the impression that you're smug, and you believe that anyone who disagrees with your biblical interpretation is beneath you and less Christian than you are. You can share your opinions and personal beliefs about this topic (or any subject) without disparaging other people. It just turns people off.
I didn't call you a satanist. I said it is similar to how satanists operate. I'm giving you the Word of God and you have stated you don't believe the Word ...that God must have meant something else, they're just stories to teach a lesson God wants us to get, etc, etc. How can you believe God, but not believe His Word is 100% truth?
 

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Again, another misinterpretation. I never said these phenomena do not happen. THEY MOST CERTAINLY DO! But they are not what you think.

Governments and militaries around the world have cooperated with fallen angels in order to acquire these technologies. They do exist. But they are fallen angel technologies, and surrounded with all sorts of evil .

So basically what you’re saying is that “only you know” the answer to these UFOs and no one else including me does.
 

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Curious what you think about Ezekiel 1 from your experience. Particularly verses 17-18.

"As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around."
Fluffy ...this proves my point. Fallen angels mimic in this earth what they have seen and experienced before they fell. Thus.... fallen angel technologies.
 
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I mean calling them Demons is the short answer here Truman which I can’t disregard because we don’t know anything about these objects, BUT I don’t say that Demons IS THE Answer with absolute certainty.




“Secret Technology” is one answer which has been discussed in detail in several documentaries.
There are two problems with this theory:
1. If this is secret US military technology, they’ve done an amazing job in pretty much leap-frogging technology by several hundred years because the feats that these objects posses, are simply extraordinary to our current knowledge.
2. If another country like China, has developed these in secret and has surpassed USA, than USA has failed epically on the intelligence level and we should just close up our country and dissolve it.
Demons are spirit, Nephilim are spirit/physical, angels are spiritual, some can transform from spiritual to physical. These things are in the bible, if you can get past some faulty doctrine and see them, and they are expanded on in 1 Enoch. But don't take my word for it, do as I did and seek it out for yourself, asking the Lord for guidance.
I believe these things have been working closely with many governments for some time.
 
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DuckieLady

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I mean calling them Demons is the short answer here Truman which I can’t disregard because we don’t know anything about these objects, BUT I don’t say that Demons IS THE Answer with absolute certainty.




“Secret Technology” is one answer which has been discussed in detail in several documentaries.
There are two problems with this theory:
1. If this is secret US military technology, they’ve done an amazing job in pretty much leap-frogging technology by several hundred years because the feats that these objects posses, are simply extraordinary to our current knowledge.
2. If another country like China, has developed these in secret and has surpassed USA, than USA has failed epically on the intelligence level and we should just close up our country and dissolve it.
I have been around Area 51 as a kid. Stepdad decided to go a little further. It was the 90s, so a guy came around in a truck and said "go back." Lol

Just look at how much technology has progressed in the last 150 years.

This is Chinese thing I was talking about. And yeah we did a bad job.

 
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Curious what you think about Ezekiel 1 from your experience. Particularly verses 17-18.

"As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around."
From what I've been told, and from a vision I had, it's God's mobile throne.
 
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TLHKAJ

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So basically what you’re saying is that “only you know” the answer to these UFOs and no one else including me does.
No....

What I am saying is that because I have experienced things related to UFOs, when I came to Christ, knowing that He alone is the source of all truth, I have sought Him and His Word in regards to my experiences.

Have you ever experienced UFOs, encounters or abduction by "aliens"?