Since you are calling facts and truth "nonsense" you are already under strong delusion. The next thing you will tell us is that Anthony Fauci is the savior of the world (which is what he also believes in his deluded and evil mind).
Are you a Christian confused about taking the vaccine? Part 1
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Eternally Grateful
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Thats why people should make a choice it’s on them
the vaccine has helped many but it does not mean everyone should get it
Eternally Grateful
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I tell the truth as I witness it
Fauci is no more my guide than hitler was
I look to what I see not what people say
Pythagorean12
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John 9:
31 and we have known that God doth not hear sinners, but, if any one may be a worshipper of God, and may do His will, him He doth hear;
Is Jesus saying those words ?
In essence every single person that has come to faith has prayed as a sinner , so to say the God doesn’t hear the prayers of the sinner is a false hood. Also prove to me that I am a sinner not save by grace and that God doesn’t hear my prayers……prove that of anyone else on this thread. You may have your opinions and thoughts about certain things, and you may feel really strongly about the issue, but it doesn’t make you judge and jury over others.
Pythagorean12
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I don't have to prove a thing.
You have to prove how you have a right to claim Jesus, who was God, doesn't know what he's talking about.
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So Jesus never relayed that a person should prayer a prayer of repentance Romans 10:9-10 ‘ If you declare with your mouth ‘ Jesus is Lord and believe In your heart that God raised him from the dead , you will be saved…..is that not the sinners prayer ?
Psalm 51 ‘ Have mercy on me, O God according to your unfailing love, according to your great compassion
Blot out my transgressions, wash away all my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin ………
Mark 7:24-30 - the gentile woman who prayed for the healing of her daughter, the gospel was not extended to the gentiles at the time, Jesus answered her prayer and healed her daughter. Cornelius did not come to faith until Peter shared the gospel with him , but prior to that ( acts 10:2 ) we are told that ‘ he prayed to God regularly. God sent an angel to him and told him ‘ God has heard your prayers and remembered your gifts to the poor ‘
I do not believe that EG is unsaved, I believe he is saved by grace, a brother in Christ.
Just as you said your bit, I said mine x
Pythagorean12
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This is a false accusation. .she did not claim Jesus doesn't know what He is talking about
Sgt. Pepper
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If I may chime in, I think Christianity Board is a more welcoming community for Christians than the other Christian board I was on a while ago, and I say that in spite of the personal conflicts we see here. I'm not sure if I can name the other board or not, but it was a bad experience for me. I left it because of what I saw going on. It wasn't just members who caused trouble, but it was also some staff who had a habit of stirring the pot. It was such a miserable experience that I was reluctant to join another Christian board for a while. I finally decided to take a chance and join this one.
Pythagorean12
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No, it isn't false.
When someone says the passage that states God does not hear the prayer of sinners isn't true, in their own manner of speaking, they're saying Jesus was wrong about his teaching that he, God does not hear the prayer of sinners.
Far too many here excise scripture in order to make a false statement using their own words to argue God meant to say what they've written .
If God heard the prayers of sinners he would never have taught his disciples what is in John 9:31.
Someone may not care to accept that. But it remains as what God has told us.
Well since we are all sinners then no one's prayers are heard.
Pythagorean12
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Where did Jesus say that? That his redeemed elect are sinners still?
I'm not a sinner. No redeemed, reborn, sealed, holy spirit indwelt Christian is a sinner.
That's what we were. Not what we are. And it isn't the gospel either to insist Christians are still sinners.
If we were sinners still, and as some insist also, Jesus would have been just a man. Who, like any other man punished by Rome's law, died on a cross. For no reason.
That is also untrue.
If you would read the chapter you'd know whose prayers God does hear.
Sgt. Pepper
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I would like to share this article, Does God hear / answer the prayers of a sinner / unbeliever? (from Got Questions) with you, because I agree with your position on this particular topic, Heart2Soul. The article gives several examples of God answering the prayers of unbelievers.
Pythagorean12
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Why do people continue to throw a single verse out there as a foundation to build a belief on?
Here is the context....
The Pharisees were questioning a blind man whose sight had been restored by Jesus....
John 9 (KJV)
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²⁸ Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' disciples.
²⁹ We know that God spake unto Moses: as for this fellow, we know not from whence he is.
³⁰ The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence he is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes.
³¹ Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
³² Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind.
³³ If this man were not of God, he could do nothing.
³⁴ They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out.
³⁵ Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
³⁶ He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
³⁷ And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
³⁸ And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
³⁹ And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
As you read above the Pharisees claim to be Moses disciples and accused the man who was once blind to be Jesus disciple...
Now can you see the whole context of this passage?
It isn't about God hearing a sinners prayer...it is about seeing....verse 39 says for judgment He came into the world to blind the those who thought they could see....Law vs Jesus
@Heart2Soul It's good to remember context in Scripture, isn't it?
I read the article...I agree with it.
Sgt. Pepper
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What she said. ^
Her response is perfect. I don't think her post needs anything added to it.
Eternally Grateful
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The sad part is in both forums I participate in we have so called Christians act like this
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