With all possible respect, I find that “anti-cult” rhetoric is not focused on Christ or following His words, but instead on attacking others and yields rotten fruit.
Silly question, but a thought provoking one:
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Mormons serve another Jesus, the spirit brother of Lucifer
Salvation isnt found at the pulpits of Mormonism, its bondage in secret temple rites, and oaths sworn to man, just as freemasonry
Thank you for sharing with me your view @Robert Gwin. As not knowing this prior this has helped me understand either way that you are a Christian.
It is true that Jesus had said strait is the way. Which is tough and narrow (Matthew 7:14), and to me when a person has come to terms with-in their soul that God sent Jesus Christ, and believe that Jesus died for their sins, and all other peoples sins. That we are to die with Christ, be buried with Christ, and be raised again spiritually in Christ. (Romans 6:5; Colossians 2:12; 1 Corinthians 15:1-6, 2 Corinthians 5:17)
That all comes by and in the spirit where God writes his laws on our hearts and minds, and all people have also the choice to renew their mind - their soul by looking and seeking with-in the scriptures and allowing God to work with them, and setting for themselves treasures in heaven, rather on earth where moth, and dust destroy, and thieves break in and steal. (Hebrews 10:16-20; Matthew 6:19-2) Also growing in abiding in Christ, becoming from a child of God unto a Daughter or Son of God is something that happens to us as we live, if we continue in abiding in faith and trusting God and the Lord Jesus Christ and reading the word of God.
I purposely avoid using the word, cult, as a label for any group who has less than all of God's Truth. Since no group or denomination to my knowledge has all of His Truth, for me none of them should be called by the label. Of course, I also do not have all of His Truth.... but like so many, God is still working on me.
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I agree about liking Mormons, with one exception. I had a sister-in-law, a Mormon, who had a very beastly nature, but as I said, she was the exception. I have met lot of other beastly natured people who belonged to a multitude of other church groups designated as Christian.
David in NJ
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See now, you again are the one who is the mocker and the accuser of the Brethren - continue as you are or turn to Christ.
You claim that Christ is the center of your life - He never falsely accused anyone, as you have been doing.
The LORD Jesus Christ said there will be cults and cult leaders - stay away from them.
Any teaching that does not come from the Scripture as verified by Christ and His chosen Apostles (Peter, Paul, John, Matthew, Mark)
is not from God.
A cult leader is someone who draws people away from Christ as if they are representing Christ.
Follow the Lord Jesus and seek to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
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Grailhunter
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Cult....heretics....demons?
Again I question your definition of cult.
It is nothing new about differing Christian religions not liking differing Christian religions, it is the reality of Protestantism.
People do not like Walmart. The large and well known are open for criticism and ridicule.
If you add up all the Protestant denominations they still do not equal the largest and oldest church on earth....Catholics....a big target.
It is easy to criticize other Christian beliefs by name calling. But that comes a crossed as empty mindless accusations.
The enemy within. The desire to ridicule Christians and divide the church. What do you think Christ and the Apostles would say about fracturing Christ's church into more than 30,000 denominations? What do you think Christ and the Apostles would say to someone that told them they were going to come up with their own denominations?
Like I said, At this point, the cat is out of the bag. So many Christian beliefs and Christ has not endorsed any one of them. In that theological environment what should Christians do? What is the nature and spirit of Christianity? Can we hold our own beliefs but endorse Christianity as a whole?
There is something to be said about what the Bible produces in the application of what is said in those scriptures.
Take the Koran for instance....a lot of good things are said in that book....but what does it produce....homicidal scum of the earth.
I do not agree with Mormonism, but I like how they apply their religion in life. They believe in Christ and Salvation through Christ, that puts them in the Christian column for me.
I go to a lot of different churches and I do not expect them to be perfect or to agree with me. But I am looking for the Christian spirit and stand with other Christians and worship the Lord.
There are a lot of faulty beliefs out there....those that deny the deity of Christ....portray God as a monster....people are robots.... those that believe that Christian application does not matter....sin and sin some more, making sin a lifestyle and still go to heaven. None of it is perfect.
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well, its what the Bible teaches that man needed anyway, yes.
Dont be too surprised when that changes on you though ok
Bc no son of man may die for another’s sins is in There too!
Unfortunately sister, as you already know many people insist that if we not follow Jesus exactly as they believe he should be followed, we must be lost. Even though they may not say that precisely, what they do say and their actions or inactions do manifest it.
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And honestly I find Walter Martin to be such a draw-away person. Hence my urging.
Instead, look for yourself, follow Christ yourself. If you have some reason to ask about another person then ask that person themselves. Follow the 2 great commandments.
Wrangler
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That is your unfounded opinion. The insult is to their identifying as Christians.
How about someone says that you serve another Jesus, the spirit brother of Lucifer? How does that shoe fit?
Hateful is as hateful does and is not from the Spirit of God. Check you moral & theological superiority at the door. Obviously, I threw pearls before swine in mentioning to you James 4:11-12.
David in NJ
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No friend, it is not me you question but the Word of God as you continually do and mock.
My posts make no declaration of 'religion' but of Scripture and Truth.
And this is where you are deceived, by your own volition, you are puffed up and feel as though i need to ask you about Christ.
You opened your mouth with mockery and false accusatory words against someone who was not speaking to you and never mentioned you.
I do not even know what religious background you come from - but if it is a cult - then leave it and follow Christ where HE leads.
Wrangler
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Sometimes on this forum, it seems as though the 2 great commandments is to bash JW & Mormons.
People attack the label they or one of their favored teachers/leaders/interpreters have assigned to a person by his affiliation. Here are some of those negative labels:
Mormon
Jehovah's Witness
SDA
Calvinist
Catholic
Pentecostal
Trinitarian
Presbyterian
Oneness
Unitarian
Tongue Talker
non-Tongue Talker
Baptist
Reformed
Methodist
OSAS
Unaffiliated Christian
Did I miss any? Try this one:
Other
Any of those labels absolutely right? Any of them absolutely wrong?
Anyone anywhere still growing? What about Jesus?
"And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man." Luke 2:52
David in NJ
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Did Jesus say - it does not matter what you believe, just love one another and that's it..........???
The world religions are united against Christ while at the same time they offer lip service to Him.
There is only One Way to Truth and only One Way to Growth - you will not find it in cults, false prophets, false christs and doctrines of demons.
The fact that our LORD warned us of these things substantiates our need to know Him and His Truth which is only found One Way.
That One Way i have continually pointed to. Even yourself, along with others have mocked that One Way.
Yet i walk in love and forgive and forget everyday just as i wish for Christ to do for me.
Never have i promoted a denomination or religion - just His Word, which most on here seem to dislike except when they the hand pick scriptures that support their belief.
i SEE that it was necessary for the LORD to instruct us this One Way = "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Father."
This is the One Way that was God in the beginning............AMEN
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So you say. But that simply puts the control back with men...who have no control. Men did not confuse all language, God did...for a greater purpose than you are attributing to men. It's not their master plan, it's his. What men have meant for evil, God has meant for good.
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