Who Is The "Root" We're Grafted Into?

APAK · Nov 14, 2021

Truth7t7 said:
I fully agree, try reading the filthy Jewish Talmud, their Rabbinical holy book?

Many Jews are bound by the occult in their Kabbalah?

Jesus Chirst was boiled in human excrement?

It's ok for a Jew to steal from a gentile/goyim?

Just a few examples of its filth

For a person to expose these truths, many try to scream they are Antisemitic, they are bound in denial of factual truth

Many believe the Jews and Israel in the majority are focused on the Old Testament, nothing could be further from the truth, it's the Talmud and Kabbalah they consider as their holy books, as the Old Testament accumulates dust

There are not enough words to describe these impostors....It seems you have known of them as I. My eyes were opened up at an early age with my experiences, and my Father and of my grandfather during the 1930s and on. Many stories to tell....and the deceptions.
Yes their Babylonian Talmud is King for them with the sayings and teachings of their Rabbis and spiritual ancestors, the Pharisees.

Don't get me started with the trickery and deception of their invented divisive expressions such as Anti-Semitism when they themselves are not even Semites...go tell an Arab they are Anti-Semitic and see what they say, or how loud they laugh to where they would roll on the ground with their bellies aching from the joke...
We have not seen anything yet...
We and others like us wear a different lens that the MS Christian community..talk about a grand deception!

Their ultimate goal is the rid the earth especially of true believers in Christ, and his Father. Talk about these beasts being instrumental in the Mystery Babylon...and it will fall..

.I just hope the sincere and genuine Christians will detach themselves from it before its too late!!

Hidden In Him · Nov 14, 2021

APAK said:
Don't get me started with the trickery and deception of their invented divisive expressions such as Anti-Semitism when they themselves are not even Semites...go tell an Arab they are Anti-Semitic and see what they say, or how loud they laugh to where they would roll on the ground with their bellies aching from the joke...

Then hatred of the Jews. If you believe all true Christians should hate the Jews and that God hates them, post your scriptural support for these positions and we'll take a good look at it.

APAK · Nov 14, 2021

Hidden In Him said:
Gentlemen, be very careful about your Anti-Semitism. By giving yourselves to hate, you are making your god the Devil, not the Lord Jesus Christ. I was speaking to a friend this morning who said an old friend of his had bought into some bonehead's teaching about how God "hates sinners."

I told him to tell his friend to take a real good look at the history of Westboro Baptist Church, because that is the direction he is going in. I would suggest you both take a good look as well.

I do not go around with these signs you display here. And do not for a moment label me as such a person. I also do not pass judgment on them either.

Many of the Jews are 'decent' folks. It is the self-styled, influential and powerful Jews that are the ones that are truly evil, seriously, for their anti-human and anti-Christian motives throughout out history. The real problem is how one speaks to this subject without getting folks like yourself all upset and worked up into a tizzy, without actually listening to what is really being said.

I and others do not bring this up for FUN. It is raised because people are not listening and researching this stuff for themselves. They live in a bubble. It is of vital importance to a Christian to hear this news, to especially those that it alarms and disturbs their version of the truth in this matter.

Since its your thread I will not speak of it again in it....request honored...

Hidden In Him · Nov 14, 2021

APAK said:
I do not go around with these signs you display here. And do not for a moment label me as such a person. I also do not pass judgment on them either.

Many of the Jews are 'decent' folks. It is the self-styled, influential and powerful Jews that are the ones that are truly evil, seriously, for their anti-human and anti-Christian motives throughout out history. The real problem is how one speaks to this subject without getting folks like yourself all upset and worked up in a tizzy, without actually listening to what is really being said.

I and others do not bring this up for FUN. It is raised because people are not listening and researching this stuff for themselves. They live in a bubble. It is of vital importance to a Christian to hear this news, to especially those that it alarms and disturbs their version of the truth in this matter.

Since its your thread I will not speak of it again in it....request honored...

And what makes you think that Futurists sympathize with powerful Jews, or that we "live in a bubble"? These are assumptions on your part, as is the theory that Israel can never come under conviction.

I am not in a tizzy. I am asking you to support such claims from scripture.

charity · Nov 14, 2021

marks said:
I've read everything so far.

Here is a question I have.

What are the branches that are broken off? How do you think of that? It's plural, for one thing.

What are the branches that may be grafted back in? Are we speaking of individuals?

Much love!

Hello @marks,

I believe we have to keep in mind the purpose behind the grafting in of Gentiles into the Olive tree during the period covered by the book of Acts. It was to provoke Israel unto jealousy (Romans 11:11). When an olive tree ceased to bear fruit, the insertion of a wild olive graft had the same effect that Paul hoped the insertion of the Gentile would have upon Israel, in provoking the 'flagging' olive tree into emulation.

The fact that the Gentiles who believed had received 'the blessing of Abraham' in the form of the promised 'spirit' (Galatians 3:14), and that they thereby possessed the gifts associated with Pentecost (1 Corinthians 14:11), was intended to provoke Israel to wake up to the fact that their unique position was going. The whole purpose of the olive tree in Romans 11 lies in the purpose with which the wild olive tree was grafted in - namely, to provoke the flagging tree (Israel) to jealousy. Gentile nations are not in view in Romans 11, for such cannot be addressed as 'brethren', neither do they stand by faith.

The olive tree position does not continue after Acts 28:28, when salvation ceased to be 'of the Jew' alone (John 4:22), but was, 'sent to the Gentiles', for they would 'hear it' (Acts 28:28). The very fact that branches are said to be 'broken off' is evidence of that: for we are assured that the standing of the believer before God is sure; justification by faith (Romans 8) makes separation impossible; for nothing can separate the believer from the Love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

It was the unbelieving of Israel, who were cut off in this allegory of the olive tree.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@Hidden In Him, @Randy Kluth, @Truth7t7, @Backlit, @MatthewG,@Enoch111.
@TEXBOW, @APAK, @VictoryinJesus, @Stumpmaster, @David H, @Rita

charity · Nov 14, 2021

Judges 9:1-15 (the following is Figurative:- not a simile but a comparison by implication):-

'The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them;
and they said unto the olive tree, Reign thou over us.
But the olive tree said unto them,
Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honour God and man,
and go to be promoted over the trees?
And the trees said to the fig tree, Come thou, and reign over us.
But the fig tree said unto them,
Should I forsake my sweetness, and my good fruit,
and go to be promoted over the trees?
Then said the trees unto the vine, Come thou, and reign over us.
And the vine said unto them,
Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man,
and go to be promoted over the trees?
Then said all the trees unto the bramble, Come thou, and reign over us.
And the bramble said unto the trees,
If in truth ye anoint me king over you,
then come and put your trust in my shadow:
and if not, let fire come out of the bramble,
and devour the cedars of Lebanon.'
(Jdg 9:8-15)

Hello @HiddenIn Him,

The Fig tree:- is allegorical of the National Position of Israel, from which we learn that it withered away and has been cut down (Matthew 21:19).
The Olive tree:- represents the Covenant Privileges of Israel (Romans 11) which are now in abeyance.
The Vine:- represents Israel's Spiritual Blessings, which henceforth are to be found only in Christ, the True Vine (John 15).
The Bramble:- represents the Antichrist, in whose shadow they will yet trust, but who will be to Israel a consuming fire in the day of 'Jacob's trouble' - 'The Great Tribulation'.

* These combine the whole of Israel's history.
* This was taken from 'Figures of Speech Used in the Bible' by E.W. Bullinger.

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* In Romans 11, it was the covenant privileges of Israel that believing gentiles were grafted into, and it was Israel's covenant blessings that they were partaking of. Both of which Israel were in danger, at that time, of losing.

VictoryinJesus · Nov 14, 2021

charity said:
Hello @marks,

I believe we have to keep in mind the purpose behind the grafting in of Gentiles into the Olive tree during the period covered by the book of Acts. It was to provoke Israel unto jealousy (Romans 11:11). When an olive tree ceased to bear fruit, the insertion of a wild olive graft had the same effect that Paul hoped the insertion of the Gentile would have upon Israel, in provoking the 'flagging' olive tree into emulation.

The fact that the Gentiles who believed had received 'the blessing of Abraham' in the form of the promised 'spirit' (Galatians 3:14), and that they thereby possessed the gifts associated with Pentecost (1 Corinthians 14:11), was intended to provoke Israel to wake up to the fact that their unique position was going. The whole purpose of the olive tree in Romans 11 lies in the purpose with which the wild olive tree was grafted in - namely, to provoke the flagging tree (Israel) to jealousy. Gentile nations are not in view in Romans 11, for such cannot be addressed as 'brethren', neither do they stand by faith.

The olive tree position does not continue after Acts 28:28, when salvation ceased to be 'of the Jew' alone (John 4:22), but was, 'sent to the Gentiles', for they would 'hear it' (Acts 28:28). The very fact that branches are said to be 'broken off' is evidence of that: for we are assured that the standing of the believer before God is sure; justification by faith (Romans 8) makes separation impossible; for nothing can separate the believer from the Love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

It was the unbelieving of Israel, who were cut off in this allegory of the olive tree.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@Hidden In Him, @Randy Kluth, @Truth7t7, @Backlit, @MatthewG,@Enoch111.
@TEXBOW, @APAK, @VictoryinJesus, @Stumpmaster, @David H, @Rita

first thank you because I woke up this morning and had no idea what to study today. You have given something refreshing to consider and again thank you for that. I’m going to try to be as short as possible.

you brought up “jealousy” which I’ve always thought of because what is the difference in our jealousy which provokes to wrath…and what is “godly jealousy” spoken of? ‘Godly jealousy’ makes me think of “provoke one another to Love” in
Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

still in considering “jealousy” and the difference in an jealousy I’ve felt deep before of envy, or bitterness and rage out from thoughts of unfair treatment. For instance when I don’t think I’m getting what I deserve which comes from arrogance? Yet He is a jealous God? “for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God”. His “godly jealousy” seems in total contrast to my envy in His seeks the wealth of another? “thou shall worship no other gods” Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

to do us good and not harm? For example 1 Corinthians 10:20-24 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. [22] Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he? [23] All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. [24] Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

…but all things edify not.
Like envy…bitterness…rage and wrath of unfair treatment in blind arrogance as deserving more than another …yet ‘Jealous after you with a godly jealousy’ of ‘let no man seek his own, but every man anothers wealth. Point being …you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
In thou shall worship no other gods?
For the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God…

What is godly jealousy?

charity · Nov 14, 2021

Q) Who Is The "Root" We're Grafted Into?

Hello @Hidden In Him

In Romans 11 believing gentiles, during the Acts period, are said to be grafted into the olive tree of Israel, and are said to 'partake of' the root and fatness of the olive tree: that being 'the blessings of Abraham' in the form of spiritual gifts through the baptism of the spirit. They are not said to have been grafted into the 'root'.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

charity · Nov 14, 2021

VictoryinJesus said:
first thank you because I woke up this morning and had no idea what to study today. You have given something refreshing to consider and again thank you for that. I’m going to try to be as short as possible.

you brought up “jealousy” which I’ve always thought of because what is the difference in our jealousy which provokes to wrath…and what is “godly jealousy” spoken of? ‘Godly jealousy’ makes me think of “provoke one another to Love” in
Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

still in considering “jealousy” and the difference in an jealousy I’ve felt deep before of envy, or bitterness and rage out from thoughts of unfair treatment. For instance when I don’t think I’m getting what I deserve which comes from arrogance? Yet He is a jealous God? “for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God”. His “godly jealousy” seems in total contrast to my envy in His seeks the wealth of another? “thou shall worship no other gods” Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

to do us good and not harm? For example 1 Corinthians 10:20-24 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. [22] Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he? [23] All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. [24] Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

…but all things edify not.
Like envy…bitterness…rage and wrath of unfair treatment in blind arrogance as deserving more than another …yet ‘Jealous after you with a godly jealousy’ of ‘let no man seek his own, but every man anothers wealth. Point being …you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
In thou shall worship no other gods?
For the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God…

What is godly jealousy?

Hi there, @VictoryinJesus,

You seem to have thought about this a lot, for you have referred to quite a few texts in relation to it.

I believe that God's jealousy manifests itself in regard to idolatry, and the worship of idols, robbing Him of the worship which He alone should receive: which is understandable isn't it?

Paul was jealous for the Corinthian believers, that they should not depart from the simplicity that is in Christ Jesus, and be beguiled by the false prophets and teachers which had come among them. That is godly jealousy, don't you think? For Paul was not jealous for his own sake, but on God's behalf, in Christ Jesus.

Thank you
With love in Christ Jesus
Chris

David H. · Nov 14, 2021

Hidden In Him said:
Then hatred of the Jews. If you believe all true Christians should hate the Jews and that God hates them, post your scriptural support for these positions and we'll take a good look at it.

The Jews are "enemies of the Gospel" as Per Paul (Romans 11:28). We are told by Christ to Love our enemies....

For as ye (Gentiles) in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these (Jews) also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Romans 11:30-32)

The way I see it is that Israel's redemption is tied to our Love and mercy for them.... our enemies.... for Christ Loved us while we were yet enemies.

It is this hatred that Paul warns the grafted branches against. (Romans 11:19-21)

APAK · Nov 14, 2021

charity said:
Hello @marks,

I believe we have to keep in mind the purpose behind the grafting in of Gentiles into the Olive tree during the period covered by the book of Acts. It was to provoke Israel unto jealousy (Romans 11:11). When an olive tree ceased to bear fruit, the insertion of a wild olive graft had the same effect that Paul hoped the insertion of the Gentile would have upon Israel, in provoking the 'flagging' olive tree into emulation.

The fact that the Gentiles who believed had received 'the blessing of Abraham' in the form of the promised 'spirit' (Galatians 3:14), and that they thereby possessed the gifts associated with Pentecost (1 Corinthians 14:11), was intended to provoke Israel to wake up to the fact that their unique position was going. The whole purpose of the olive tree in Romans 11 lies in the purpose with which the wild olive tree was grafted in - namely, to provoke the flagging tree (Israel) to jealousy. Gentile nations are not in view in Romans 11, for such cannot be addressed as 'brethren', neither do they stand by faith.

The olive tree position does not continue after Acts 28:28, when salvation ceased to be 'of the Jew' alone (John 4:22), but was, 'sent to the Gentiles', for they would 'hear it' (Acts 28:28). The very fact that branches are said to be 'broken off' is evidence of that: for we are assured that the standing of the believer before God is sure; justification by faith (Romans 8) makes separation impossible; for nothing can separate the believer from the Love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

It was the unbelieving of Israel, who were cut off in this allegory of the olive tree.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@Hidden In Him, @Randy Kluth, @Truth7t7, @Backlit, @MatthewG,@Enoch111.
@TEXBOW, @APAK, @VictoryinJesus, @Stumpmaster, @David H, @Rita

I essentially agree with your take on the subject here. And there is much that can be said on this subject.

Charity, I take it then you do believe as I do that the root of the 'tree' in question is the the covenant 'tree' given to Abra(ham) of the blessings and promises bestowed as a promise to him of a 'great' nation? His extended family as the covenant spiritual offspring passed on to his descendants, and to David, to the shoot of Jesse, coming out of this same root of this same spiritual tree (Isaiah 11: 1-5). And now in our Saviour's 'hands' to execute and fulfill this covenant/promise completely, as his Body, to establish and complete the Kingdom of and for his Father.

PS I do disagree with you though when you said,
"Gentile nations are not in view in Romans 11, for such cannot be addressed as 'brethren', neither do they stand by faith."

I believe in Rome, Paul was addressing both his ethnic Israelite converts to Christ and also those from the other nations as one group of brethren in Christ.

Truman · Nov 14, 2021

The natural branches are being grafted back in faster than they have ever been...I think the church needs to do some serious soul-searching.

charity · Nov 14, 2021

marks said:
I see this being fulfilled at that time:

Isaiah 59:20-21 KJV
20) And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
21) As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

That all Israel that remain alive will be reborn, and ever after all their children are born alive in the Spirit.

Much love!

Hello @marks,

I have been thinking about the responses you have received concerning the words, Redeemer & Deliverer: and now wonder if I have selected the right post of yours to respond to;

but in regard to the use of the word 'Redeemer' in regard to the Lord's second coming; though Christ came and wrought redemption at His first advent, when He comes again it will be to physically 'redeem' those for whom redemption was paid when He came at first; by the resurrection from the dead. Similarly the Adoption will physically be achieved then, for which the spirit of adoption has been given. Do you see what I mean. So the word Redeemer is appropriate in relation to both his first and second coming.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@APAK, @Hidden In Him

APAK · Nov 14, 2021

charity said:
Hello @marks,

I have been thinking about the responses you have received concerning the words, Redeemer & Deliverer: and now wonder if I have selected the right post of yours to respond to; but in regard to the use of the word 'Redeemer' in regard to the Lord's second coming; though Christ came and wrought redemption at His first advent, when He comes again it will be to physically 'redeem' those for whom redemption was paid, by the resurrection from the dead. Similarly the Adoption will physically be achieved then, for which the spirit of adoption has been given. Do you see what I mean. So the word Redeemer is appropriate in relation to both his first and second coming.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@APAK, @Hidden In Him

Yes, the first Redemption/Deliverance established the spiritual ownership given as credit, recorded in the Book of Life, if you will, and the 2nd event as the collection of the believers in Him, who was already paid for, and saved and set aside for such an occasion of delivery....

Well done!

APAK · Nov 14, 2021

Truman said:
The natural branches are being grafted back in faster than they have ever been...I think the church needs to do some serious soul-searching.

You are reading my mind Truman....and how many more left?.....not that many..it will be full, very soon...and ALL (of those that do turn to Christ with his same Spirit) Israel will be saved! Amen!!

Truman · Nov 14, 2021

I call Him Yeshua. My King! My big brother. He calls me Ron. "Shout praise song!" Amen!

VictoryinJesus · Nov 14, 2021

charity said:
Q) Who Is The "Root" We're Grafted Into?

Romans 11:11-16

If the first piece [of dough] is holy, the lump is also;

1 Corinthians 5:6-8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

If the first be holy:
but each in his own order;
Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming.

and if the root is holy, the branches are too. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and become partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant,

for what is our Hope or Joy of exultation (boasting)? Is it not even you, in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming?
1 Thessalonians 2:19 Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming.
For I am jealous with a godly jealousy, for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you [as] a pure virgin.
In the presence of our Lord…1 Corinthians 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

[remember that] it is not you who supports the root, but the root [supports] you. (Your glorying, boasting, is not good, 1 Corinthians 5:6-7)(1 Corinthians 1:29 That no flesh should glory, boast, in his presence.)

You will say then “branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in”
Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith.
Again: What is to stand by faith in His presence? 1 Corinthians 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Consider that ‘broken off for their unbelief’ with ‘but you stand by your faith.’

get all this might not be connected but (Imo) it helps with what it means to not be ashamed at His coming. To not be ashamed in His presence. Take heed that you stand(by what do you stand if not by faith? In Him who calls you and who is faithful?) lest you fall…consider ‘I know whom I have believed’ the focus not on ‘I’ but in knowing the ‘whom’ in He who said “I will do it.” ‘I am persuaded better things of you’ let each man be persuaded in their own minds. 2 Corinthians 7:14 For if I have boasted any thing to him of you, I am not ashamed; but as we spake all things to you in truth, even so our boasting, which I made before Titus, is found a truth.
With ‘those who put their trust in the Lord’ …. ‘will not be ashamed at His coming.’
For faithful is He who calls …our Hope or Joy of exultation. ‘Is it not even you, in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming?’

Do not be conceited, but fear.

…continue in His kindness…otherwise you also will be cut off. (In unbelief?)

charity · Nov 14, 2021

APAK said:
I essentially agree with your take on the subject here. And there is much that can be said on this subject.

Charity, I take it then you do believe as I do that the root of the 'tree' in question is the the covenant 'tree' given to Abra(ham) of the blessings and promises bestowed as a promise to him of a 'great' nation? His extended family as the covenant spiritual offspring passed on to his descendants, and to David, to the shoot of Jesse, coming out of this same root of this same spiritual tree (Isaiah 11: 1-5). And now in our Saviour's 'hands' to execute and fulfill this covenant/promise completely, as his Body, to establish and complete the Kingdom of and for his Father.

PS I do disagree with you though when you said,
"Gentile nations are not in view in Romans 11, for such cannot be addressed as 'brethren', neither do they stand by faith."

I believe in Rome, Paul was addressing both his ethnic Israelite converts to Christ and also those from the other nations as one group of brethren in Christ.

Hello @APAK,

The words I used in the post you are responding to, namely:- 'Gentile nations are not in view in Romans 11, for such cannot be addressed as 'brethren', neither do they stand by faith' - were said in relation to the Abrahamic covenant regarding the nations. For in Romans 11, it is individual Gentiles that are being grafted in. The promise to Abraham regarding the nations will be realised at the end of the age, when the Gospel of the Kingdom will once again be preached.

@APAK said:-
And now in our Saviour's 'hands' to execute and fulfill this covenant/promise completely, as his Body, to establish and complete the Kingdom of and for his Father.

I believe that the covenant with it's promises are now in abeyance with the departure of Israel in unbelief, and will not be in operation again until Israel comes to repentance and enters into God's purpose for them as Priests unto God among the Gentiles.

During this time the Church which is His (Christ's) Body is being called out: which is not part of that covenant, and is independent of Israel, having unique blessings, and a unique inheritance in Christ Jesus, which will be enjoyed not in the Earth, but far above all heavens, where Christ now sits, at God's right hand.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Truth7t7 · Nov 14, 2021

Hidden In Him said:
No. I meant that the covenant of grace was given first and foremost to the Jews.

My brother, the huge problem here is that you would have Jesus talking completely past the Jews, as if they were worth nothing more than to have their theology and beliefs used to teach you and I twenty centuries later. We know He is not that inconsiderate a God, so I would have to reject any notion that He was talking completely past His hearers in Matthew 24 to us today. As the passage states, the New Covenant was made with the House of Israel and the House of Judah first and foremost.

I Agree

Romans 1:16KJV
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Truth7t7 · Nov 14, 2021

APAK said:
There are not enough words to describe these impostors....It seems you have known of them as I. My eyes were opened up at an early age with my experiences, and my Father and of my grandfather during the 1930s and on. Many stories to tell....and the deceptions.
Yes their Babylonian Talmud is King for them with the sayings and teachings of their Rabbis and spiritual ancestors, the Pharisees.

Don't get me started with the trickery and deception of their invented divisive expressions such as Anti-Semitism when they themselves are not even Semites...go tell an Arab they are Anti-Semitic and see what they say, or how loud they laugh to where they would roll on the ground with their bellies aching from the joke...
We have not seen anything yet...
We and others like us wear a different lens that the MS Christian community..talk about a grand deception!

Their ultimate goal is the rid the earth especially of true believers in Christ, and his Father. Talk about these beasts being instrumental in the Mystery Babylon...and it will fall..

.I just hope the sincere and genuine Christians will detach themselves from it before its too late!!

(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great Of Revelation Chapter 17

The Levitical High Priest & Dressing represents "The Woman", that is dressed in purple, scarlet, gold, and precious stones as seen below

(Revelation) 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Yes, The Levitical High Priest, Dressed In Purple, Scarlet, Gold, And Precious Stones

(Exodus) 28:15-20KJV
15 And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it.
16 Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span shall be the breadth thereof.
17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row.
18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings.

(Jerusalem) is the seven hilled city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

(Revelation) 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did.

(Revelation) 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

(Matthew) 23:29-37KJV
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

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