You said are looking for a different angle than the norm on the 1000 years. Jump to 33 min in on this video, i think you said you like this guy.
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If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?
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You said are looking for a different angle than the norm on the 1000 years. Jump to 33 min in on this video, i think you said you like this guy.
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1 Samuel 2:8: "He raises the poor from the dust, He lifts the needy from the ash heap To make them sit with nobles, And inherit a seat of honor; For the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, And He set the world on them.
1 Samuel 2:9: "He keeps the feet of His godly ones, But the wicked ones are silenced in darkness; For not by might shall a man prevail.
1 Samuel 2:10: "Those who contend with the LORD will be shattered; Against them He will thunder in the heavens, The LORD will judge the ends of the earth; And He will give strength to His king, And will exalt the horn of His anointed."
WOW! Thank you.
Why would GOD need to set the world on pillars after this place is done? Who would contend with the LORD in a Millennium Reign after He Returns? Why would GOD be Judging the earth after He already did with the Seven Seals?
"He will thunder in the heavens" ...Seven Thunders?!?!?!?
Davy
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It ain't over for the majority of the unsaved when Jesus comes.
That is why there will be a "thousand years" reign over the unsaved nations after His future return. And we know there are still unsaved nations existing after... His future return, because at the end of the "thousand years" of Revelation 20, we are shown Satan loosed one final time to go deceive the nations to come up against the "camp of the saints" that is upon THE EARTH (Revelation 20:9).
So brethren in Christ, don't be deceived by those on the false Amillennial theory of men, because what that doctrine is about is certain men on this earth that want power. The Revelation 20 Scripture is written clearly; it is not hard to understand that the "thousand years" mentioned there several times is to be a literal period of time on earth. Those men who reject that Scripture do so in order to try and steal power away from Christ Jesus. They do not represent Him, and He did not call them. So beware.
That is why there will be a "thousand years" reign over the unsaved nations after His future return. And we know there are still unsaved nations existing after... His future return, because at the end of the "thousand years" of Revelation 20, we are shown Satan loosed one final time to go deceive the nations to come up against the "camp of the saints" that is upon THE EARTH (Revelation 20:9).
So brethren in Christ, don't be deceived by those on the false Amillennial theory of men, because what that doctrine is about is certain men on this earth that want power. The Revelation 20 Scripture is written clearly; it is not hard to understand that the "thousand years" mentioned there several times is to be a literal period of time on earth. Those men who reject that Scripture do so in order to try and steal power away from Christ Jesus. They do not represent Him, and He did not call them. So beware.
The Seventh Trump ends any possibility of there being a Millennium Reign after The Return. You can't deceive people with Glorified bodies ...satan is loosed after a thousand years.
You don't want to think about what it means for the kingdom of the world to become The Kingdom of GOD.
You don't want to think about what it means for the kingdom of the world to become The Kingdom of GOD.
Davy
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Like I said brethren in Christ, the Revelation 20 Scripture about the start of Christ's future Eternal reign, with His faithful elect, OVER the nations with His promised "rod of iron", will be a LITERAL event upon this earth.
Because certain men in this present world refuse to recognize that part of God's Holy Writ, they are NOT to be trusted, and further, much of their preaching must be held suspect because of the agenda from men their denial of Scripture shows.
Because certain men in this present world refuse to recognize that part of God's Holy Writ, they are NOT to be trusted, and further, much of their preaching must be held suspect because of the agenda from men their denial of Scripture shows.
Davy
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Those in Christ are especially in need of remembering the following because of men's false doctrines and denial of the written Scripture...
Jude 3-4
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV
Jude 3-4
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV
The core issue is how you view Revelation 20. You think there are going to be literal resurrected Saints that are going to rule ...when It was being symbolic. The first Resurrection is always about CHRIST. A thousand years where people get an unfair chance of being saved doesn't make any sense. JESUS is Reigning now, He showed us that He is with the destruction of Israel ...His Judgment on The City.
so satan can be loosed and deceive people with the Presence of The LORD???
so satan can be loosed and deceive people with the Presence of The LORD???
Well PJ I viewed the video and it was edifying....He reinforces my hybrid view of reigning with Christ today on earth during this age of grace until all enemies have been totally defeated. Then comes the final 2nd resurrection and final resurrection. He also digs into the meaning of the 1st resurrection, as being Christ's resurrection. The 2nd resurrection being all humanity raised up to either immortality, or mortality and external to the Kingdom of the Father.
Thank you for the information and your insights. I said I wanted to restart my study in Eschatology again, and now I feel I've completed a few week in the semester...
“But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people” (Jeremiah 31:33)
JESUS started to Reign with The New Covenant. We are His people in His Kingdom.
JESUS started to Reign with The New Covenant. We are His people in His Kingdom.
Psalms 37:27-29
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
It didn't say they would live for a thousand years on it. Kind of hard for the wicked to pop back up and be deceived by satan.
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
It didn't say they would live for a thousand years on it. Kind of hard for the wicked to pop back up and be deceived by satan.
If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?
OP ^
Doesn’t matter If men’s eyes can Yet See Christ Jesus’ Kingdom...His Lawful Right to sit on the everlasting Throne of the House of David (that God established) and Inherit the Land (God) Promised to Abraham’s Lawful and faithful descendants .... It is already Established. Jesus Fulfilled the Law, and Shall reveal His Throne, His Kingdom and It’s Occupants on a day of Gods choosing.
Glory to God,
Taken
OP ^
Doesn’t matter If men’s eyes can Yet See Christ Jesus’ Kingdom...His Lawful Right to sit on the everlasting Throne of the House of David (that God established) and Inherit the Land (God) Promised to Abraham’s Lawful and faithful descendants .... It is already Established. Jesus Fulfilled the Law, and Shall reveal His Throne, His Kingdom and It’s Occupants on a day of Gods choosing.
Glory to God,
Taken
Sounds like Reigning Priests of The Kingdom to me:
2 Timothy 2:2-5
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
masteries = "to encircle with a crown, to crown:" G4737 - stephanoō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)
2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
2 Timothy 2:2-5
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
masteries = "to encircle with a crown, to crown:" G4737 - stephanoō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)
2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
This is right after the dream statue of nebuchadnezzar:
Daniel 2:24-25
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
//Why didn't the scripture just say "at the end of time" instead of in the days of these kings?
Daniel 2:24-25
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
//Why didn't the scripture just say "at the end of time" instead of in the days of these kings?
Lambano
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Greetings from the “Already - but not yet”, the times between the end of the previous age and before the beginning of the age to come. Ref: 1 Corinthians 10:11.
Because God sets up His Everlasting Kingdom in our near future, during the time of all of the Kings of the earth are drawn to Armageddon where they are judged on the earth at the same time as the wicked heavenly hosts are judged in heaven and they are both, the judged kings of the earth and the heavenly hosts will be imprisoned in a pit for many days to await the time of their punishment. (Isa. 24:21-22 is another description of Armageddon. Rom. 11:25-26 tells us that all of Israel will be saved after the kings of the earth are judged.)
The kings of the earth that have dominion over the land of Babylon during these present times will be among those that will be gathered, judged and imprisoned in the Bottomless pit at Armageddon.
Shalom
(the mark of the beast controversy, is still in development or its not time for it yet)
(jesus's is the king of the resurrection and that is acted out on earth with the faithful)
(the unfaithful and those genetic lines, do not identify with Jesus body, and they are only a source of suffering and must be killed, there is no hope for them, but satan in its pleasure, will try to do this anyway)
(it was published that japan found jewish dna inside the COVID19 vaccine vials shipped to their country from the usa, and call that impurities, and just burned those shipments)
(this is something to think about, things will become clearer, there are many levels and years to this argument of development if this is the time, it takes only one bump to change society permanently)
JESUS is a King of The Kingdom right now.
Hebrews 1:8-10
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Hebrews 1:8-10
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Mark 14:62
And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Matthew 26:64
Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Matthew 26:64
Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
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