DuckieLady
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Do not withhold good from those who deserve it, when it is in your power to act.
Proverbs 3:27
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Ephesians 4:30
Summarize what the good news is, find a scripture.
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Proverbs 3:27
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Ephesians 4:30
DuckieLady
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I couldn't put my finger on it by what he was saying but discernment was strong and letting me know something wasn't right, and I see what others are saying.
May God use it the way he plans to. Prayer over this is a good plan.
Wrangler
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I am no longer affiliated by the church by that name. I am a unitarian Christian.
Who gave his only begotten son? God, in his unitarian nature. The sin of Joe Biden is not Joe, even though Hunter is his begotten son.
The Good News is bit that Gif incarnated and only appeared to die. Hope this helps.
Wrangler
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Hmmm. The book begins by telling us the resurrected Jesus in heaven was given a revelation by God, in his unitarian nature. Therefore, 22:22-21 has to be read in that context.
amigo de christo
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Let us not forget verse eighteen . For it pertains heavily to this all inclusiive age . But he who believes NOT will be damned .
Muslims and other religions DO NOT serve the same GOD we do . Truth is only CHRIST can reveal the Father unto us .
So no other religion or mindset can save a soul . Even if i gave my body to be burned , even if i saved fifty souls from a burning
house , even if i gave millions upon millions unto the poor , YET if i denied CHRIST , HE GONNA DENY ME .
ONLY one way to be saved . ONE WAY to have eternal life , one way to the FATHER , JESUS CHRIST is THAT GLORIOUS NAME .
amigo de christo
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I honestly dont get what is so hard to grasp about the first chapter of the gospel according to JOHN . IT says it QUITE clear my friend .
IN the Beginning was the Word , the Word was with GOD and GOD is THE WORD . Very plain to me . Even a five year old could
read and grasp the simplicity of how clear that is stated .
Which means that opposition to the deity of Christ is from Satan, who blinds the minds of those who do not desire the truth.
amigo de christo
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And it also means that the all inclusive love most are preaching today cometh of satan too .
What kind of love would allow those in other religions , would allow those who have not Christ , TO BELIEVE THEY FINE and all is well .
WHEN IT AINT WELL . Now that which they preach is another gospel and that means IT AINT NO GOSPEL . cause gospel means GOOD NEWS
and what they preach is bad news for all who do believe it .
amigo de christo
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One thing i DO KNOW , read romans ten real good . Cause that is HOW one is saved . AND THERE AINT NO OTHER WAY THANTHAT
to be saved . All else is vain and leads unto the second death .
I am a stickler to that gospel as being the ONLY MEANS by which one can be saved and that there simply is no other plan for salvation .
amigo de christo
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So allow me to leave us with a friendly reminder . POINT TO JESUS IF YOU WANT ANYONE SAVED .
DuckieLady
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Here is my suggestion and others here did well, too, but maybe with an open heart just research it on the internet.
Have a look around. Be a berean and look into some apologetics.
God is faithful and I have faith that if the Lord is revealing something, it is His will to guide you and lead you.
In the meantime, I will pray for you that God will guide and lead you.
I am sure that @Enoch111 and @amigo de christo are willing to do the same.
Wrangler
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LOL. I reference the clear text of God @ Rev 1:1 regarding who it was who gave the resurrected Jesus in heaven a revelation. Where is your open heart and research of it on the internet?
DuckieLady
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The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
John wrote Revelation on Patmos.
So Rev 1:9:
I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom....
The good news is that we can be saved, which means resurrected and brought into heaven with eternal life. 1 Thessalonians 4:16
In the Aramaic of that period, the term "son of man" simply meant "an ordinary man" or "an ordinary human being". It also had a specific prophetic meaning. Even in Hebrew is means the same thing.
Look as the passage in the Old Testament Book, of Daniel (7:13-14):
"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."
In this passage Daniel is using "son of man" as a name for the Messiah.
The good news is that Daniel's vision was fulfilled. This ordinary man, the Son of Man, the Messiah, ascended to his Father, the only true God, to the Ancient of Days and established and rules today the Kingdom of his Father, over heaven and earth. And as a believer, part of the body of this son of man and the Christ, I'm part of this same Kingdom today, on earth. Amen
Look as the passage in the Old Testament Book, of Daniel (7:13-14):
"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."
In this passage Daniel is using "son of man" as a name for the Messiah.
The good news is that Daniel's vision was fulfilled. This ordinary man, the Son of Man, the Messiah, ascended to his Father, the only true God, to the Ancient of Days and established and rules today the Kingdom of his Father, over heaven and earth. And as a believer, part of the body of this son of man and the Christ, I'm part of this same Kingdom today, on earth. Amen
DuckieLady
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Why do you all think that the Pharisees were so angry when he said, “Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”?
They were wrong.
Do ordinary men raise the dead?
Do ordinary men have blood so pure that it can wash away the sins of the world?
Would your blood be even enough for one soul? No man's was.
He was born of the Holy Spirit, yet in the likeness of us, and he felt human pain and he was tempted by Satan, but his blood was pure.
The human humility serves as an example to us and His ability to feel and understand affliction breaks our heart.
Isaiah 53:1
"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering."
And they are right to say Jesus is Lord.
"No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit."
1 Corinthians 12:3
They were wrong.
Do ordinary men raise the dead?
Do ordinary men have blood so pure that it can wash away the sins of the world?
Would your blood be even enough for one soul? No man's was.
He was born of the Holy Spirit, yet in the likeness of us, and he felt human pain and he was tempted by Satan, but his blood was pure.
The human humility serves as an example to us and His ability to feel and understand affliction breaks our heart.
Isaiah 53:1
"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering."
And they are right to say Jesus is Lord.
"No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit."
1 Corinthians 12:3
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Grailhunter
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What the Good News is....that is easy.
He freed us from the ministry of death.
But if the ministry of death, engraved in letters on stones, came with glory so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,
Christ freed us from the Mosaic Law....most do not understand what a burden that was. And and at best its rewards were only realized in the physical other than to prevent the wrath of God
Scriptures at this site regarding Christ freeing us from the Mosaic Law.
17 Bible verses about Freedom From The Law
Freeing us from the Law changed the lives of Mankind....but better yet was the opening of the gates of Heaven as an abode and a reward.
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. John 14:2
Scriptures at this site regarding our heavenly reward.
25 Bible verses about Heavenly Rewards
Our relationship with God.
Upon Christ's death on the Cross, the veil in the temple was ripped into so there was nothing that would separate us from God any longer.
Then through Christ we were adopted into the Family of God....now children of God....in the household of God.
John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
1 John 3:1-2 - Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
Ephesians 2:19-22 - Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Galatians 6:10 - As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Romans 12:5 - So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
John 1:12-13 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
He freed us from the ministry of death.
But if the ministry of death, engraved in letters on stones, came with glory so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,
Christ freed us from the Mosaic Law....most do not understand what a burden that was. And and at best its rewards were only realized in the physical other than to prevent the wrath of God
Scriptures at this site regarding Christ freeing us from the Mosaic Law.
17 Bible verses about Freedom From The Law
Freeing us from the Law changed the lives of Mankind....but better yet was the opening of the gates of Heaven as an abode and a reward.
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. John 14:2
Scriptures at this site regarding our heavenly reward.
25 Bible verses about Heavenly Rewards
Our relationship with God.
Upon Christ's death on the Cross, the veil in the temple was ripped into so there was nothing that would separate us from God any longer.
Then through Christ we were adopted into the Family of God....now children of God....in the household of God.
John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
1 John 3:1-2 - Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
Ephesians 2:19-22 - Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Galatians 6:10 - As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Romans 12:5 - So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
John 1:12-13 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
quietthinker
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We are indeed released from the condemnation of the Law yet it is not the law that is the problem. The problem is sin. The problem isn't the law. The Law is holy and just and good. Romans 7:2
Confuse the two and you make sin a victim and covertly justify it.
Grailhunter
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We are freed from obeying the Law not just the condemnations of the law. We obey Christ.
Sin is kind of a problem all the way around.... but the Law did not provide away to heaven whether you obeyed it or not. And technically it was impossible to obey. Go try it.
Ministry of death and the curse Christ redeemed us from and it is holy and good....This is probably why people find it so hard to understand the scriptures...The religious literary style of the time period speaks to both extremes by the same Apostle. You and I could debate this for weeks throwing scriptures at each other from each end of the debate from the same Apostle.
Now you can either keep chasing your tail on this, or you can go learn something about what you are talking about. But this sort of thing only confuses people and it is not serving God. You hurt people with this sort of thing. Innocent people that are trying to understand.
quietthinker
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Promoting lawlessness under the guise of grace is what does the confusing!
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