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That is great! Thank you so much. I am thinking about it. Good stuff.
The revolving sun....I had considered that it represented the passage of time.
Keep me in mind. Let me know if something else comes to mind.

I'll check back tomorrow after I've had a chance to take a better look. It's really interesting. :cool:

Thanks again for posting it.
 

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LoL!



Oh yeah, I remember this one! The trench coat guy was me, actually, because I was "next to you" at that time when we were working together quite a bit. I've had dreams myself where I appeared in one, like at a beach restaurant of all places. Felt really awkward, like looking down and thinking, "What in the world am I doing in this awful thing?" but it was representative of a spiritual mantle I wear, because of a book I own in my library about Smith Wigglesworth who was pictured as wearing the exact same thing.

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But yes. The "food" being represented is spiritual food, and in context refers to what we each would receive comparatively through the dreams God was giving you. I've had more experience with interpretation and even when I've been off on something I usually end up revisited a dream later and realize where I made a mistake. But just like your pastor said, it's an encouragement to you and for you. The long line/ short line refers to time, and is also accurate, because the more experienced you get the less time it will take you to receive from God. So be patient, because you
are receiving, and the basic principle to keep in mind is this: Christians are compared to fish for a good reason. They are one of the only species on earth who can grow as big as they want to, with their size limitations depending only on how much "food" they can manage to "eat."

So keep on eating, and keep on dreaming! Because it's not always just for you. For a great big Fatty like me, it's kinda like the dinner bell ringing for supper time! Lol.

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It is honestly the specific people in the dreams I'm questioning and the dreams involving specific people. While I had thought you at first, I am questioning whether this could actually be someone generally mature in Christ and spiritual gifts. Wiggles worth was definitely mature spiritually. The lesson though is what sticks with me though. I know I am not the only one this implies too. I think you are just one of the people who wear a trench coat.
 

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It is honestly the specific people in the dreams I'm questioning and the dreams involving specific people. While I had thought you at first, I am questioning whether this could actually be someone generally mature in Christ and spiritual gifts. Wiggles worth was definitely mature spiritually. The lesson though is what sticks with me though. I know I am not the only one this implies too. I think you are just one of the people who wear a trench coat.


Possibly. I do think we're in different places on how much we received, but it's likely because much of that stuff back then dealt with subject matter I was far more familiar with, which might have also had something to do with it. I had a few dreams that involved you on Wednesday, btw, and they clarified for me even more what all actually went down (and why), and in the process informed me that I'm ahead of schedule compared to some others, because one of the dreams was set to a school setting where many were being taught the things of God, specifically about how to interpret dreams.

But yes, the dream could apply to many I believe, and for both groups of people.
 
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I say to him, "What are you doing here?
He replies, "What are you doing here? You do realize that you are standing in water and your wallet is wet?"
I instinctively touched my hip pocket, but then I know that my paycheck and everything was wet and I wondered if they were going to accept a wet check.
So while I was contemplating this the catfish goes back to swimming in a circles in front of me. He does not have clothes on. So I start thinking about what he could have to give to the Teller or where he would put anything that he would get from the Teller.
So I ask the catfish, "Where do you keep your money? Do you have a wallet?"
He looks at me like I am dumb and says, "It is in my stomach. Were else?" and he looks over at the Teller and says, "He scares me." ....a cat LOL
I just nod my head. So I stand there a while and eventually ask him, "What do you do with money?"
Again he looks at me like I am dumb and replies, "I keep it in the river bank."
I chuckle and reply, "No what do you spend it on?"
He replies, "Fish futures."
Again I chuckle and had to ask, "What is fish futures?"
He explains that it is wagers on the death of things.
I say, "What?"
He replies, "I eat dead things on the bottom of the river."
I cringe and say, "Yuck!"
And so he gets a little huffy and asks, "Oh really, what do you eat that is alive?"
I chuckle again and replied, "I guess not a lot."
He then says, "We are a lot a like, we both live off of death." And he seems to notice my clothes and asks, "Why aren't you wearing fancy clothes?"
I said, "I am not doing anything fancy."
He says, "Everything is fancy. And then he askes why people wash their clothes?"
"Cause we do not want to stink, I answered.
"Well you all stink anyway! I can smell everything. If you all did not wash your clothes, you all would stink and it would just be normal."
OK, I replied and then asked, "Why are you concerned about people washing their clothes?"
He replies, "They use clean water to wash their clothes. They are wasting clean water and they stink anyway."

There are other fish in the lobby. We never move in line and the catfish and I never get to the Teller....and the dream ends. I have had this dream reoccur.

Oh my... you know what I think this may be about? The catfish represents a Christian, potentially even Christian leaders like the pastor of a church, only he is preying off spiritually dead believers who are now financially underwater. He is a sinner, hence why he scolds you for using clean water to cleanse yourself because you are "going to stink anyway." As Christians we are supposed to be clothed in Christ (Colossians 3:16, Galatians 3:26-27), and he isn't clothed at all. All these are allusions to becoming cleansed spiritually from sin, but he doesn't sympathize with doing any of that because deep down he apparently doesn't believe the power of God can cleanse people anyway. And he admits to you that he "eats dead things from the bottom of the river," invests in "fish futures," and "lives off the dead." I think this is a giveaway for living off of other "fish" i.e. other Christians financially. And catfish do indeed eat other fish. Found this from one article I discovered:

But, do catfish eat other fish? Yes, they do, catfish in fact eat other, smaller fish species. They will eat those fish species which are available in their waters, including shad, perch, bluegill, drum, buffalo, small carp, and all other kinds of baitfish. Some catfish are likely to eat dead fish too.
https://www.slo-fishing.si/fishing-for-beginners/419-do-catfish-eat-other-fish

I think the dream turns into a warning to watch out for false Christians in the times ahead, because many will be "going nowhere" financially, and dependent upon the banks to help them, likely through debt. The banks will be exceedingly wealthy, as is typified by all the gold and silver inside the bank that is reflecting the sunlight, and the golden cash register.

You might want to take a look at this thread. It contains the vision I was referring to where it is prophesied that the world economy is eventually going to "go off a cliff," and that the banks will be in position to enslave humanity as a result.

I'll include the link, but provide a below the paragraph that particularly pertains to your dream I think:

That no one ascended, but all went down to the bottom of the cliff, spoke to me that the economy of the whole world was going down. Many will survive what is coming, but not at the level they are presently. Much of our present standard of living has been built upon credit, borrowing from the future, and the future is now here... I felt that the slave ships were banks. During the Great Depression, banks were so over extended that most of them failed. Somehow, they have now positioned themselves to not only survive another economic collapse, but will actually be in a place to enslave those who are in debt to them...
Beware Of Increasing Debt


 
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I had a few dreams that involved you on Wednesday, btw, and they clarified for me even more what all actually went down (and why), and in the process informed me that I'm ahead of schedule...


@Mayflower. One of those dreams (the first one) was very complimentary of you, btw. If you want to know more, just send me a conversation.
 
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The waiting part is hard for me. I like the kind like the one in my thread that seem more like a parable in a way. These are the ones that stick with me the most.

Like one time I had a dream where there were two buffet lines. The short line had a register while the longer line didn't have a register at the end. There was that protection glass in between me and the food. There was also this man with dark black curls and a long brown trench coat next to me. We were talking, I can't remember about what, but he had his plate piled really high with food. Me, I had a normal sized portion of food, but I really wanted what he had on his plate. I just didn't know how to get it all. An old woman was serving the food smiling. So then the man turned and went to the short line to check out with this old man at the register. I was still on the long line with my plate, because I wasn't done.

Hidden interpreted this for me (and if I don't get this completely right what you said, let me know @HiddeninHim it was a long while back).

But basically some people can take in a lot more spiritual stuff at once, while others take it in over a longer period of time. It doesn't mean that I won't get as high stacked plate of food as the man in the trench coat, but it means some Christians take it in a bit slower then others. My pastor mentioned to me that the buffet is all there and I can get anything I want. I just need to ask for discernment and take it!!!!

So this was super encouraging to me and both things ring true in my spirit. These are the sort of dreams that are revelations to me. Others disturb me and make my heart sad. And then some I don't know about at all anymore. But I know I'm not going to check out until my plate is overflowing and I have understanding and everything else concerning what God is speaking.



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I ask myself, am I different to the world and if I am, how am I?
My digestive system works the same as far as I can tell, I have a heart which pumps blood and hair which turns greyer as I age and I've never managed to stop those pesky boogies which keep surfacing regularly. Whaaaaaaaaaa! I'll spare you any more information about my anatomy :)

What makes me think I'm different? Maybe some here think I'm not? .....and what is to be understood by 'the world' anyway?
Maybe I/we can get some feedback?
 
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Well thanks HIM,
Please stay on this. It looks like it might be useful.

I have had some reoccurring dreams....and most are almost cartoon like.

Catfish in the Mercantile Bank lobby.
I am in the lobby of the Mercantile Bank and sometimes I am in line for the teller sometimes I am filing out paperwork at one of those raised tables in the lobby. There is four feet of muddy water everywhere. The ceiling is about 30 feet tall and the windows are five feet wide and 15 feet tall and they are all around the building. It is sunny out, the sun seems to be in the morning above the horizon and seems to be circling the building every couple of minutes, producing a lot of moving shadows, but also glare off of the gold and silver fixtures. The front door is one of those turnstiles. Not in the water because you have to walk in and go down some steps into the lobby. So we had to walk down into the water.

Everybody is going about their business like this is normal. But they understand that I do not think it is normal because they keep reassuring me that everything is ok. The people are not saying anything to me that could be meaningful. Everybody is dressed in 19th century dress attire, suites and such. My only big concern are my new hunting boots.

So I am standing in line in four foot of water, looking at the Teller behind black rod iron bars, early 19th century style. Then I realize that the Teller is a very well dressed, man-sized cat....what I call golden stripped cat. 19th century style clothes with a cigar smoking in an ashtray. There is one of those large 19th century golden cash registers there to the Teller's left. He is not in the water because other well dressed animals are walking around behind him....not in water....going about their jobs.

I notice a swirl in the water between me and the guy in front of me and suddenly a catfish's head pops out of the water looking at me. He has a smoking pipe in his mouth....that is apparently not affected by the water.

I say to him, "What are you doing here?
He replies, "What are you doing here? You do realize that you are standing in water and your wallet is wet?"
I instinctively touched my hip pocket, but then I know that my paycheck and everything was wet and I wondered if they were going to accept a wet check.
So while I was contemplating this the catfish goes back to swimming in a circles in front of me. He does not have clothes on. So I start thinking about what he could have to give to the Teller or where he would put anything that he would get from the Teller.
So I ask the catfish, "Where do you keep your money? Do you have a wallet?"
He looks at me like I am dumb and says, "It is in my stomach. Were else?" and he looks over at the Teller and says, "He scares me." ....a cat LOL
I just nod my head. So I stand there a while and eventually ask him, "What do you do with money?"
Again he looks at me like I am dumb and replies, "I keep it in the river bank."
I chuckle and reply, "No what do you spend it on?"
He replies, "Fish futures."
Again I chuckle and had to ask, "What is fish futures?"
He explains that it is wagers on the death of things.
I say, "What?"
He replies, "I eat dead things on the bottom of the river."
I cringe and say, "Yuck!"
And so he gets a little huffy and asks, "Oh really, what do you eat that is alive?"
I chuckle again and replied, "I guess not a lot."
He then says, "We are a lot a like, we both live off of death." And he seems to notice my clothes and asks, "Why aren't you wearing fancy clothes?"
I said, "I am not doing anything fancy."
He says, "Everything is fancy. And then he askes why people wash their clothes?"
"Cause we do not want to stink, I answered.
"Well you all stink anyway! I can smell everything. If you all did not wash your clothes, you all would stink and it would just be normal."
OK, I replied and then asked, "Why are you concerned about people washing their clothes?"
He replies, "They use clean water to wash their clothes. They are wasting clean water and they stink anyway."

There are other fish in the lobby. We never move in line and the catfish and I never get to the Teller....and the dream ends. I have had this dream reoccur.

So now I have broke the ice on silly dreams so others can share. I find no meaning in this dream and I just wake up chuckling. The dreams do deviate a little.

once I stopped laughing, I did notice some things…
I guess I just notice…some aspects or…impressions.
Merchantile means commerce related. I thought: I advise you to buy gold from me refined by fire and white garments. And the catfish asked why you wash and try to get clean and said he bets or invests in dead things.

People were muddying the water with their feet. There’s a verse I can’t fully remember there.
A cat that looks like a man made me think of the lion of Judah and he had stripes, (by His stripes we are healed.)

I feel like the smoking cigar is…really incense…

keeping his money in the riverbank reminds me of the loincloth a man buried in the OT…

The “moving shadows” are relevant…He doesn’t cast a moving shadow.

I don’t like the catfish. He’s arrogant and bets on the futures of fish dying. Your conversation with him shows him to be mad at people wanting to wash in clean water. The cat with the stripes scares him. The cat with stripes is not in the muddy water and neither are His helpers. There is a door to get to Him but…you have to put yourself lower (humble yourself) by walking down the steps after you go through the door, to eventually get to Him.

I see more but those are the things that stick out most.
 
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The waiting part is hard for me. I like the kind like the one in my thread that seem more like a parable in a way. These are the ones that stick with me the most.

Like one time I had a dream where there were two buffet lines. The short line had a register while the longer line didn't have a register at the end. There was that protection glass in between me and the food. There was also this man with dark black curls and a long brown trench coat next to me. We were talking, I can't remember about what, but he had his plate piled really high with food. Me, I had a normal sized portion of food, but I really wanted what he had on his plate. I just didn't know how to get it all. An old woman was serving the food smiling. So then the man turned and went to the short line to check out with this old man at the register. I was still on the long line with my plate, because I wasn't done.

Hidden interpreted this for me (and if I don't get this completely right what you said, let me know @HiddeninHim it was a long while back).

But basically some people can take in a lot more spiritual stuff at once, while others take it in over a longer period of time. It doesn't mean that I won't get as high stacked plate of food as the man in the trench coat, but it means some Christians take it in a bit slower then others. My pastor mentioned to me that the buffet is all there and I can get anything I want. I just need to ask for discernment and take it!!!!

So this was super encouraging to me and both things ring true in my spirit. These are the sort of dreams that are revelations to me. Others disturb me and make my heart sad. And then some I don't know about at all anymore. But I know I'm not going to check out until my plate is overflowing and I have understanding and everything else concerning what God is speaking.



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Interesting…I think you were in the right line, the one where you didn’t have to pay. There was no cash register because that food and drink is free. I think the man in the trench coat went to the wrong line, even though you thought his plate looked good. I had a good, good feeling about the protective glass in between you and the food. You were going to eat what he gave you, not eat like a slob at his table/eat unworthily according to the lust of your eye or stomach. What a good and safe feeling the protective glass gave me.

The trench coat is…there’s something wrong about it. They are waterproof coverings, to keep water off of you…there’s something wrong spiritually with the man in the trench coat and with his gluttonous plate and he got in the wrong line and had to pay. I’m sort of…glad you couldn’t remember what he said. Black curly hair feels…like a tangle you want to get away from…it feels like…unruliness?
 
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...and most of those conservative values you speak of above are predominantly coming from a Republican point of view. You could blame the media or the fact that Christians in your country are not spirit filled but I am discerning a dream which @Mayflower has related. Whether my discernment on this matter is correct or not, I will leave to @Mayflower as it should resonate in her inner being, whether what I have said is from the Holy Spirit or not. Blessings to you and Peace from God!

Here is a funny....
Back over a hundred years ago the democrats were a very conservative party...and the Democrats and Republicans kind of switched platforms...Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Then up to the 50's the democrats were Christians and patriots. Those Democrats do not exist as politicians or voters anymore~~~

I have asked at various churches --- Sunday Schools how a Christian can vote for a democrat? I generally get the deer in the headlights look.... Most do not have an answer or do not want to answer. Some say it has been the way their families have voted. Some of the older folks say they think that the Democrats are the labor party, for the normal or average working man. The deer in the headlights look, a lot of times is because they do not want to answer. A strong desire for the legalization of drugs or they believe in abortion or feel that homosexually should not be condemned. The desire for drugs can be so strong that they could be in chains and our country turned to communism as long as they could have their drugs. More or less to make evil socially acceptable.

Again a funny, Trump did more for the working man and the American way of life and values than any Democrat that ever lived....He did not support the social parasites or criminals or drug users much, but for the working blacks, home ownership and education was on the rise during his administration. The Democrats now want to steal the souls of the minorities....rewarding people that have no morals or desire to work for what they got. Just give them everything and allow drugs so the populous is sedated. Allowing illegal aliens to get a free pass and support for the criminals all at the expense of hard working Americans. Over the last 30 years their new initiative has been to decimate the voting system. Voter fraud, cheating, kicking observers out, not allowing law enforcement to be present, covering the windows, and not requiring voter ID's and they are about to pass a law in New York state were non-citizens can vote. And the courts up to and including the supreme court has given them the thumbs up for all of that.

The United State is the last beacon of light to resist Satan and he and his agents are attempting to take it down...destroying our values, our culture, and a straight on attack on Christianity. Time to take it back!
I'm sorry, but it is extremely laughable to say the U.S. is the last beacon of light to resist Satan. It has been one of the world's foremost exporters in perverse entertainment, perverse lifestyles, and perverse music for the past 7-9 decades. Why do you think the Islamic theocracies hate us? They've seen what our lack of moral restraint has given birth to. Do religious people in America seriously think something like 9/11 would've happened if we were a beacon of morality?

This is a shining example of why American Christianity is entirely driven by politics and not based on anything the Bible says. You apparently believe Christians are supposed to take the country back. But who are they supposed to take it back from? The Bible is crystal clear that the entire world is ruled by Satan. Are you stronger than Satan? You're certainly not, nor is God so weak that He can't enforce His own will on a country that is populated by 300 million human beings.

And why would you depend on voting for deceived individuals like Trump to fight on God's values anyway, considering the fact that Trump has been divorced multiple times and took many opportunities to inflame political tensions instead of calming them down? I can see why atheists find American Christianity to be problematic when so many of its adherents have absolutely no problems supporting a man that epitomizes everything the Christ condemned. It's truly a sad state of affairs when atheists have the sense to see past Trump's religious facade and his supporters don't.
 
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I'm sorry, but it is extremely laughable to say the U.S. is the last beacon of light to resist Satan. It has been one of the world's foremost exporters in perverse entertainment, perverse lifestyles, and perverse music for the past 7-9 decades. Why do you think the Islamic theocracies hate us? They've seen what our lack of moral restraint has given birth to. Do religious people in America seriously think something like 9/11 would've happened if we were a beacon of morality?

This is a shining example of why American Christianity is entirely driven by politics and not based on anything the Bible says. You apparently believe Christians are supposed to take the country back. But who are they supposed to take it back from? The Bible is crystal clear that the entire world is ruled by Satan. Are you stronger than Satan? You're certainly not, nor is God so weak that He can't enforce His own will on a country that is populated by 300 million human beings.

And why would you depend on voting for deceived individuals like Trump to fight on God's values anyway, considering the fact that Trump has been divorced multiple times and took many opportunities to inflame political tensions instead of calming them down? I can see why atheists find American Christianity to be problematic when so many of its adherents have absolutely no problems supporting a man that epitomizes everything the Christ condemned. It's truly a sad state of affairs when atheists have the sense to see past Trump's religious facade and his supporters don't.


Anyone that places their hope and trust in a man, woman or political party is sadly deluded. There is only one we are to put our hope and trust in that is Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The God of Israel!!! Now I am not an American and I know I am about to upset some people but from an outsiders point of view hear this!!! God does not care about your constitution or your democracy, or your political parties. God is a theocracy not a democracy it is Yahweh's way or the way to the burning lake of fire.

You need to get away from man-made systems and get into God's system. Don't believe me? Well read the book of Revelation. You can either get into God's way of living or the harlot and the beasts way of living your choice. America is not a beacon of light it is one of the most sinful nations on earth. Australia is not far behind neither are most of the westernized countries and for that matter every nation on the earth and yes including Israel. We have all fallen short of Yahweh's standard.

Do you really think that when Yeshua (Jesus) returns He is going to refer to your constitution or any other countries constitutions or founding declarations? No He is going to rule and reign from Jerusalem and the Torah will be the standard by which we all live by Micah 4:2 this has not happened yet. Read your Bibles and when I say that I mean the Old Testament too.

Shalom
 

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Living in this world you will partake in work, foods, drinking drinks, and having family possibly, you will die, and you can still do activities such as sports, movies, reading books, and the like.

However the world in which (the flesh) has nothing spiritual within itself. (Unless you are a believer you do receive the Holy Spirit) but the flesh is still flesh nothing spiritual about it.

Only does the Father of all creation allow us to have the Holy Spirit by faith in the Son of God who, died, was buried and resurrected.


“Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you.

When we love the world or put our flesh first, the love of the Father is not there. If you put God first and love for others, the love of the Father will be there because of the Holy Spirit within you.


For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions.

This is all the world has to offer. Cravings.


These are not from the Father, but are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave.

Those cravings are from the flesh and not the spirit. We are dying and this world is fading away as you grow in the spirit.

But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever.

This is an interesting study in the verse above itself, in which pertains to the Will of God, believing in the Son of God, having love for God and love for others.

Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the last hour has come.”

Added this for an extra side note for a person to think about what John is writing.

The last hour was there in that time where things where going the age of that time period was going to be wrapped up in the final coming of the wrath of God upon Israel in that day in age, and those who desired to be saved from that wrath needed to listen to the Apostles instructions.

‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:15-18‬ ‭NLT‬‬

As a believer you should understand that you have the Holy Spirit given by God and the kingdom of God is with-in you.

Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world, and that it is not observable.

If you are a believer your citizenship is founded in heaven. You are set apart from the worldly standard of the flesh though you still have it until the day you die.

Your new spiritual life should revolve around living in prayer, faith, seeking God, and loving God and others.


“For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives. Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised to life as he was. We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin. For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin. And since we died with Christ, we know we will also live with him. We are sure of this because Christ was raised from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:4-9‬ ‭NLT‬‬
 
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