The Rapture Of The Church

(thesuperjag;18563)
Doesn't matter, Good and Evil, both shall be changed. You think that Evil shall be judged in their flesh body at Judgement Day? Is that what you are saying? I say it's nonsense.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
You believe that the wicked will be spirit when they are judged? Please show us the scripture(s) if this is what you believe.

Many will be taught in the milliuem and I dont think there will be many non believers left but regauardless they will be raised and taught till the end of the milliuem and Satan is turned loose for yet a little while to test them and then comes judgement day

Also a flesh can only live upto at max one hundred and twenty years in today's time since Genesis 6:3.Genesis 6:3 - And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.So how can you say that wicked people shall not be change at all when the Lord comes?Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.

(thesuperjag;18580)
Also a flesh can only live upto at max one hundred and twenty years in today's time since Genesis 6:3.Genesis 6:3 - And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.So how can you say that wicked people shall not be change at all when the Lord comes?Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
So you believe that along with the saints the wicked will have eternal life?

Nay, The wicked shall not have eternal life,..as sin can not enter heaven. but Judgement Day is after one Day with the Lord, then Lucy will be loosed for a little season after one Day to deceive more, then there comes Judgement Day.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.

(thesuperjag;18582)
Nay, The wicked shall not have eternal life,..as sin can not enter heaven. but Judgement Day is after one Day with the Lord, then Lucy will be loosed for a little season after one Day to deceive more, then there comes Judgement Day.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
So where did you get the idea that the wicked will be changed at Jesus' return? There is no such statement in the Bible.

That's right Kriss...better to put off more scriptures. Shall we get the :bible: and :study: it more?Our true self...I Corinthians 15:51-54 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.I Thessalonians 4:16-17 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.Revelation 11:15 - And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.Mellineum Age and after...The serpentRevelation 20:2-3 - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.Revelation 20:7-10 - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.Mellineum Age...With ChristRevelation 20:4 - And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.The dead (with Christ)...Mellineum AgeRevelation 20:5-6 - But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.

But Jesus said,wide is the road to destruction, but narrow is the road to heaven!In Revelation, at the great white throne judgement it very clearly states that even the sea will give up the dead. It also says that a large amount of people will be thrown into the lake of fire!Jesus also said in Mathew, that in that in that day many will say Lord, Lord we did all of these things in your name, and He will say get away from me I never knew you!Every thing that I've ever read in all of Jesus' teachings He always taught that very few will choose the right road!

Yes you so right Jody because the delusion(of Antichrist/Satan) will be so great that God had to shorten the time or even the very elect would be fooled.Why is this so? 60% to 70% of Christians have not been taught what would happen they been taught don't worry about it you wont be here anyway. You are going to be raptured away you don't need to know how to tell who he is. RAPTURE IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS few will choose the right road. They have never been taught by their Shepard's Gods truth. Instead they get some kind of man made up escape plan

(Kriss)
Yes you so right Jody because the delusion(of Antichrist/Satan) will be so great that God had to shorten the time or even the very elect would be fooled.Why is this so? 70% of Christians have not been taught what would happen they been taught don't worry about you wont be here anyway. You are going to be raptured away you don't need to know how to tell who he is. RAPTURE IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONSfew will choose the right road.They have never been taught by their Shepard's Gods truth. Instead they get some kind of man made up escape plan
Kriss, I have to agree with you once again cause it's truth. True is sweet, but only bitter if one hates it.After verse 10 it isBehold, the Great White Throne for Judgement Day.Revelation 20:11 - And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.Everybody is responsible for their own fate and faith.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.

So what is this teaching that I saw earlier on this post about those wicked that are still here will be given a glorified body?If we are going to be given a glorified body, even if we are wicked, why should we be concerned about judgement for?Some how there seems to be a false teaching there!

(kriss;18845)
Yes you so right Jody because the delusion(of Antichrist/Satan) will be so great that God had to shorten the time or even the very elect would be fooled.
A note of correction here; it did not say that the elect would be deceived; it says if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived. The operative words are "if it were possible." In other words it's not possible for the elect to be deceived.

(jodycour)
So what is this teaching that I saw earlier on this post about those wicked that are still here will be given a glorified body?If we are going to be given a glorified body, even if we are wicked, why should we be concerned about judgement for?Some how there seems to be a false teaching there!
Do you really think evil people will not be in a glorified body? Do you think evil people will be stuck in their flesh for eternity, even at Judgement Day. I can not believe that at all.This is the max age that our flesh can live upto...since Genesis 6:3.Genesis 6:3 - And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.Look at Lucy.Ezekiel 28:12-13 - Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.And you know what...Ezekiel 28:3 - Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.P.S. Just in case if you miss this...Ezekiel 18:4 - Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Many will be taught in the milliuem and I dont think there will be many non believers left but regauardless they will be raised and taught till the end of the milliuem and Satan is turned loose for yet a little while to test them and then comes judgement dayAll = All will be changedI Corinthians 15:51 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

(verzanumi24;18849)
A note of correction here; it did not say that the elect would be deceived; it says if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived. The operative words are "if it were possible." In other words it's not possible for the elect to be deceived.
thats why God shortened the time so it would not be possable isnt that essentually what I said?

(kriss;18856)
thats why God shortened the time so it would not be possable isnt that essentually what I said?
No that’s not correct either, God shorten the time so that some of the elect would not be killed. As it says, if God does not shorten the time, no flesh would be saved...that is the reason why He will cut the days short.Matthew 24:22 (KJV) 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. This saved is not talking about spiritual salvation, because Jesus went on to say that it was not possible for the elect to be deceived.

Verzanumi24, That verse wasn't speaking of a physical death, it was more speaking of a spiritual thing. It was talking about being deceived not being killed.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.

(thesuperjag;18859)
Verzanumi24, That verse wasn't speaking of a physical death, it was more speaking of a spiritual thing. It was talking about being deceived not being killed.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
That is what you believe fine with me, I will not force the issue.

Yes, I do not believe that the wicked will recieve a Glorified body!That would be contrary to the Word of God!

Glorified?? At the seventh trump ALL are changed to their true state of spirit not flesh The truly wicked of heart (which only God know) seize to exist, the lost and unrepentant sinners are taught the truth then Stan is loosed for a short time to test those that were taught so that they also can overcome. Then there is judgement day.