If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

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Revelation 22:2

In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
The leaves are all those who are born again of His Spirit.
To all, make no mistake, it is NOT the visible churches, which consist of both wheat and tares, including Pastors, Bishops, Elders etc. There are MANY who hold position in the visible church who are unsaved.
 

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You also didn’t answer my question

Yes the whole world had heard the message Paul said it four times in the bible during his days

Yes John the Baptist was a real person who came before Jesus

If you read Zechariah 12-14 you will see it all happens in that’s day

Jerusalem was destroyed on the day in the first century

The spirit of grace was poured out on that day in the first century

They looked on the one that was pierced on that day in the first century

The shepherd was struck on the sheep scattered on that day in the first century

The people were cleansed of sin on the day in the first century

The living water the Holy Spirit flowed from Jerusalem to the world though the deciples on that day in the first century

Jesus stood on the mount of olives and gave the command to take the gospel to the world on that day in the first century and it shook the world
Sorry my friend

but I disagree wholeheartedly with you

Israel’s sins were not cleansed and because of it ad 70 happened. Which was also prophesied would occur in the OT and God would then seek the gentiles. Which has happened for the past 2000 years and is still happening

scripture must be taken as a whole not in part

the gospel will be spread to the whole world. Israel will repent. And Jesus will stand on the mount of olives. And the whole world will see him as King
 

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Sorry my friend

but I disagree wholeheartedly with you

Israel’s sins were not cleansed and because of it ad 70 happened. Which was also prophesied would occur in the OT and God would then seek the gentiles. Which has happened for the past 2000 years and is still happening

scripture must be taken as a whole not in part

the gospel will be spread to the whole world. Israel will repent. And Jesus will stand on the mount of olives. And the whole world will see him as King

Physical Israel is done, do you have any idea how this pretend Nation of Israel was restarted?
Their Covenant is done. JESUS gave them a Final Judgment.

What Does Paul Mean by ‘All Israel Will Be Saved’ in Romans 11:26?
The Gentiles are grafted in with the Remnant to Save Spiritual Israel.

What Does Paul Mean by ‘All Israel Will Be Saved’ in Romans 11:26?
 
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Physical Israel is done, do you have any idea how this pretend Nation of Israel was restarted?
Their Covenant is done. JESUS gave them a Final Judgment.

What Does Paul Mean by ‘All Israel Will Be Saved’ in Romans 11:26?
The Gentiles are grafted in with the Remnant to Save Spiritual Israel.

What Does Paul Mean by ‘All Israel Will Be Saved’ in Romans 11:26?

Yes and don't forget Romans 9:6

It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel

So who is all Israel then?????
 
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If JESUS is going to go and prepare a place for us, why would The Kingdom remain here?

John 14:2-3
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

People that overcome ...doesn't that mean now?

Revelation 3:12​
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Is the Judgment by JESUS to end Jerusalem tell us that He is Reigning over The House of Jacob from Mount Zion (GOD'S Kingdom) as a King (Luke 19:41-44)? "and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation."

If the Reborn are Kingdom Ambassadors, why are we waiting for a physical Kingdom like the Jews are? They are waiting for a Messianic Age, are we also or is LORD JESUS CHRIST Reigning right now?

Check out “amillennial eschatology”. What do people think is going on when they become Reborn? i’ll tell you, He becomes our KING.

Jews still haven’t figured out that GOD’S Kingdom isn’t physical. You become Reborn to enter it. You become Reborn for a Relationship with GOD.

very short video:


What Anointed King matches to the King in Psalm 72? What Jewish King asks for prayers continually besides the Ultimate King (Psa 72:15)? "prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised."
You missed a thread this summer - A rebuttal to yours:
The Millennial Kingdom
 

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You can't have both: Free Will and a Physical LORD King on earth with satan being loosed to deceive after a thousand years. You can't deceive people that don't have Free Will.
All earthlings will be Christians in th MK - initially. Then babies will be born and brought up in Christian homes with the presense of our King in Jerusalem. So with Satan and his demonic horde locked up, sin and evil will ne at an all time low. Still, being born with a natural sin nature will present some friction, but not much until Satan is released once again.
Our will will be walking in the Spirit. There has never been a time like this, Paradise reborn without sin and evil. Peace on earth and good will towards will be everyone's moddo. Children today are either spoiled or brought up fatherless, lacking discipline. The old "spare the rod and spoil the child" will oncw again be the norm. Society will also have the strongest work ethic ever - work or you don't eat. Everyone will be accountable and responsible and content. Oh yeah, you can have a pet tiger too, whoo will just graze out in the field.
 

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All earthlings will be Christians in th MK - initially. Then babies will be born and brought up in Christian homes with the presense of our King in Jerusalem. So with Satan and his demonic horde locked up, sin and evil will ne at an all time low. Still, being born with a natural sin nature will present some friction, but not much until Satan is released once again.
Our will will be walking in the Spirit. There has never been a time like this, Paradise reborn without sin and evil. Peace on earth and good will towards will be everyone's moddo. Children today are either spoiled or brought up fatherless, lacking discipline. The old "spare the rod and spoil the child" will oncw again be the norm. Society will also have the strongest work ethic ever - work or you don't eat. Everyone will be accountable and responsible and content. Oh yeah, you can have a pet tiger too, whoo will just graze out in the field.

GOD is either physically on Earth ...or He isn't. Pick one.
 

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Sorry my friend

but I disagree wholeheartedly with you

Israel’s sins were not cleansed and because of it ad 70 happened. Which was also prophesied would occur in the OT and God would then seek the gentiles. Which has happened for the past 2000 years and is still happening

scripture must be taken as a whole not in part

the gospel will be spread to the whole world. Israel will repent. And Jesus will stand on the mount of olives. And the whole world will see him as King

Its not about nations anymore but individuals who are saved made up of both Jew and Gentile who is true spiritual Israel
 
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Its not about nations anymore but individuals who are saved made up of both Jew and Gentile who is true spiritual Israel
This is not about eternal salvation

This is about Gods unconditional promise to a nation. In a covenant God made with Abraham, His two sons, and the 12 children of Jacob.

If God is not going to keep his promise to them. We can have no hope he will keep his promise to us.
 

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This is not about eternal salvation

This is about Gods unconditional promise to a nation. In a covenant God made with Abraham, His two sons, and the 12 children of Jacob.

If God is not going to keep his promise to them. We can have no hope he will keep his promise to us.

So how would you explain Romans 9:6?
It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel
 

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This is not about eternal salvation

This is about Gods unconditional promise to a nation. In a covenant God made with Abraham, His two sons, and the 12 children of Jacob.

If God is not going to keep his promise to them. We can have no hope he will keep his promise to us.

You are trying to make the conditional Mosaic Covenant be with Abraham's ...but it isn't.

Hebrews 8:13
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 9:10
Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them UNTIL THE TIME OF REFORMATION.

Galatians 3:19
Wherefore then serveth the law? IT WAS ADDED BECAUSE OF TRANSGRESSIONS, TILL THE SEED SHOULD COME to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Galatians 3:25
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Jeremiah 31:31-34
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
 

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32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

They are divorced.
 

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So how would you explain Romans 9:6?
It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel
Romans 9:6 is fighting the argument that God made a mistake chosing Israel. And talking about the salvic issue

The context of our conversation should be in Romans 11. Which discusses the jewish Issue.. that is not salvic in nature
 

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You are trying to make the conditional Mosaic Covenant be with Abraham's ...but it isn't.
Abrahams covenant is non conditional.

If we read lev 26, we see something amazing

1. If Israel disobeyed. God will punish them
2. After each punishment, If they do not repent. God punishes them 7 times more
3. The final punishment is destruction of the city, the temple, and the scattering of the nation into the world.
4. But even after all this the promise

1. If they repent. And confess their sin and the sin of the fathers, God will forgive them
2. God will remember the covenant he made with the fathers (the abrahamic covenant)
3. God will remember the land.

This is the exact warning Daniel used when Daniel was praying in Daniel 9. In which also God sent an answer.

You can claim it is not related. But it is. Lev 26 makes it related.
 

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32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

They are divorced.
Romans 11: 28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they arebeloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Irrevocable. The abrahamic covenant still stands
 

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Romans 9:6 is fighting the argument that God made a mistake chosing Israel. And talking about the salvic issue

The context of our conversation should be in Romans 11. Which discusses the jewish Issue.. that is not salvic in nature

That didn't really answer the question but how about Galations 3:28?

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
 
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Abrahams covenant is non conditional.

If we read lev 26, we see something amazing

1. If Israel disobeyed. God will punish them
2. After each punishment, If they do not repent. God punishes them 7 times more
3. The final punishment is destruction of the city, the temple, and the scattering of the nation into the world.
4. But even after all this the promise

1. If they repent. And confess their sin and the sin of the fathers, God will forgive them
2. God will remember the covenant he made with the fathers (the abrahamic covenant)
3. God will remember the land.

This is the exact warning Daniel used when Daniel was praying in Daniel 9. In which also God sent an answer.

You can claim it is not related. But it is. Lev 26 makes it related.

Do you know what the Elected Remnant is? GOD Rebuilt The City ...but there has been a different generation since then.