The Present, the Future, and the Past!

What have you been smoking, fella?

year2027 said:

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The Present, the Future, and the Past!​

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05-21-2011​

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As I pass through time my mind has already took every step that I am taking as I walk in fleshly world. My mind has planed every step before I take the first step my muscles are pushing up has I balance myself on my feet as gravity holds in place. As this world spins out of control from the greater force our sun holding the earth in place as it moves closer to hitting each other.



If I raise my arm which part of me, is risen of my arm right now and which was doing it before it even happen. My mind thinks about it before I risen my arm and as I rise my arm the movement is changing gravity pull on all things. So the present, the past, and the future so all are happening in the same movement of time.



So one could say what I have thought about I am about to do as I already done in my mind, as I am about to do it. So present is the future that I already done in the past? Thank you, with love and a holy kiss Roy.

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My opinion :
" So present is the future that I already done in the past?"

Makes sense yes. We are constantly living in the future and present. See it this way (RIP), You are a boat sailing through the ocean. The wake that you create does not come into existence before the boat's tip has reached that point in the water. Thus creating something that will swerve into the past (not in the present.) The tip of the boat is the present going into the future and leaving behind the past. The past, present and future is a constant stream of being and we are all living in it the WHOLE time.

We do not determine our future by things that we have done in the past, but out past is determined by what we do now (in the present-future tense)

Make sense?

(oh, and its only 9am at the moment lol - still half asleep)

Time is an illusion caused by the stretching of space. We are actually being born, living our lives, dying, and kneeing before the throne of God at the same moment.

aspen said:

Time is an illusion caused by the stretching of space. We are actually being born, living our lives, dying, and kneeing before the throne of God at the same moment.

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That is true Aspen. We are already kneeling before God. Have you ever been out of this time capsule Aspen?

Neshama said:

That is true Aspen. We are already kneeling before God. Have you ever been out of this time capsule Aspen?

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I am currently most aware of Christ teaching me to love fully and I am practicing my sanctification until I learn to love as all human beings were created to love. I am only aware of what it is like to be apart of time.

aspen said:

I am currently most aware of Christ teaching me to love fully and I am practicing my sanctification until I learn to love as all human beings were created to love. I am only aware of what it is like to be apart of time.

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Im happy that you are aware of you have to learn/do. Praise the Lord!

I can tell you that not being apart of time is scary, overwhelming, exciting and most certainly interesting. One thing i have to warn about is that there are No shortcuts in life. I can easily tell you how to escape time, but that certain way of doing it is 'cheating' (if you will). Rather ask the Lord (should you want to be outside time) to get you there. It is an awesome , i-can-not-understand-how-this-works place. Usually i avoid things/situations that i can not understand, but this subject intrigued me loads.

"Time is just an illusion"???......How insightful is the philosopher's eye!!....(you found the 'God seed', the "anointing").

In scripture (neither the word "Christianity" nor the word "bible" are in scripture), God is informing the insightful and sincere how to be more fully human (a SELF), but only those who are "true" and courageous ever see it (there shall be NO "self abasement", Colossians 2:18).

1 John 2:27......"the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no NEED that any one should teach you".....
............(believers have always pridefully WANTED to be a FOLLOWER of someone).

Ephesians 1:10....."as a plan for the fulness of time" (the completion/END OF TIME).

Jesus's crucifixion and resurrection ushered in the 'age of eternity' and ended the 'age of time' for all who choose to live spiritually inside His body (the new worship temple). In "eternity", there is no such thing as "future", only FOREVER.

John 2:19
"and in three days I will raise it up"......verse21 "he spoke of the temple of his body" (He is the OUTER temple, we each are the inner temple, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and 6:19).

.....Neither is the "strong delusion" future, the strong delusion has always been around for those who keep idols IN THEIR HEARTS.

It's not as though time is completely irrelevant to God (a day is as a thousand years), it's simply that "God" is not a product/entity of "time".

In honoring/worshipping God, it is only with biased and self-serving rationalization that it can be argued that the 'glorification of MAN' is not innately evil.

Humanity's "glorification of man" (subconsciously motivated or not) has always been the 'wall of darkness' that has prevented humanity from knowing the REAL truth about God.

Romans 1:21 "although they knew God they did not honor him AS GOD"..

God spoke to Ezekiel about the insincere hearts that became their own stumbling block. God said He would answer them Himself (with "ALL WICKED DECEPTION", 2 Thessalonians 2:10).

Ezekiel 14:3
"Son of man, these men have taken their idols into their hearts, and set the stumbling block of their iniquity before their faces; should I let myself be inquired of AT ALL by them?".

Sigmund Freud helped society realize that not all pride is bad (only VAIN pride is bad...every human being needs an "ID",...pronounced like "is"). Solomon summed up human nature as "All is VANITY" (Ecclesiastes 2:17).

The glorification of man is not only the ATTITUDE that causes one to be "puffed up" with the pride of being a 'bookmaster', but it also causes us to be a "FOLLOWER" type of person and seek the approval of those in the pulpit (as you will see, Paul was not a "follower" of anything, but a MEMBER OF "the Way").

Acts 11:26...
"and in Antioch, the disciples were first called Christians"........ Before this, SAUL, the chief Pharisee, persecuted "the Way", when Saul became PAUL, he became a MEMBER OF Jesus's body...."THE WAY" (John 14:6).

Acts 9:2 (who SAUL persecuted)
"that if he found any belonging to THE WAY, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem".

Acts 19:9
"but when some were stubborn and disbelieved, speaking evil of THE WAY...".


Act 24:22 "But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of THE WAY".

Fifty years after the crucifixion, the Jews that came to Christ decided at the "Incident at Antioch" (a meeting of the Council of Jerusalem) to no longer be of "THE WAY" because they still wanted to follow MOSAIC LAW.

John 14:6 "I am THE WAY...".

As for Peter...
.....Peter was the one who denied Jesus (all 3 manifestations of God), misused the powers of the Holy Spirit to kill Ananias and his wife (they lied to PETER), gained followers by the use of fear and allowed himself to be glorified instead of God (Acts 5:15 "his shadow might fall on some of them"). Jesus characterized Peter well when He said....

"you are not on the side of God" (Matthew 16:23).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch

God does not want the "follower" type of person, He wants us to KNOW WHO WE ARE and BE WHO WE ARE so that the REAL person can relate to and identify with the Father of creation (the Father's real name is "I AM WHO I AM")....

Exodus 3:14, 15 "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM."....."this is my name FOREVER, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations".

In the old testament, the Jews had only the FATHER and HIS SPIRIT for worship (God had not yet revealed His Son to humanity). When "I am who I am" sent His Son to earth, God had finally been revealed to humanity IN ENTIRETY/completeness and salvation/purification became AVAILABLE to "ALL" humanity (whoever chooses to live spiritually inside Jesus's body as an inner temple)....

Luke 3:6 "and all flesh shall see the salvation of God".

In the NEW devotion, God's spirit was not given to us (the "TRUE worshipper", John 4:23) until Jesus was glorified....

John 7:39
"for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified"....
....Jesus is 'THE REVEALING WORD' that became flesh (not text).

Colossians 2:9 "For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily".

.....It is only by being AWARE ('study, study, study' is not really necessary) of the 'JESUS scriptures' (doctrine/teaching of Christ) that we know that we now have "God in entirety".

"Babes in Christ" (only recently introduced to Jesus, young in the faith) still think in worldly ways ("men OF THE FLESH", 1 Corin. 3:1) and were "trained" (2 Timothy 3:16 in the BASICS of devotion ("fed milk"), but the world's "flesh" system never taught that we need to MOVE ON ("go ahead") to a "more excellent" devotion that is based on "the greatest of these" (1 Corin. 13:13) so that we can be fed "solid food".

1 Corinthians 3:2
"I fed you with milk, not solid food; for you were not ready for it".

Hebrews 5:14
"But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their faculties trained by practice to DISTINGUISH good from evil".....

God's "VOICE" will teach us the "sword" of PROPER discernment that a Godly person/spirit should have (as long as we become GOOD LISTENERS/students).

The "sword of the spirit" does not have/make multiple divisions between right and wrong, it only makes a DISTINCTION between the two standards (with NO middle ground between the two, "no variation or shadow").....In other words, the "change" from right to wrong is CLEAR AND ABRUPT.

Ephesians 6:17 "sword of the spirit".

James 1:17 "no vartiation or shadow due to change".

"My sheep HEAR my VOICE" (John 10:27).

Our devotion to God should not be based on SIMPLY KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING the doctrine of Christ (we must always "abide" in it), but the mature devotion is one of having JESUS as our ONLY foundation (no longer should we have a FOUNDATION OF "REPENTANCE", the performance of 'righteous deeds'/self "works" is "DEAD"/useless), neither should we any longer have mere "faith TOWARD" God, but we must have "FAITH FOR faith".

Romans 1:17 "the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith".

The 'textbook' should no longer be OUR TRAINER/TEACHER, the SPIRIT must now be our trainer/teacher.

"Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God" (Hebrews 6:1).

Jesus did ALL the "works" that are necessary, OUR only obligation is to TRUST those "works" to be sufficient (let them be "manifest" in our lives so that we RELAX/REST in The Lord....

John 6:28 "Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?".

"that the works of God might be made manifest" (John 9:3).

We have no obligations except to be peaceful and just (the "spirit") and to have peaceful regard for each other (loving others ONLY as much as we love ourselves, but I don't have the need to show love to myself....I just AM).

When and IF I decide to be helpful to someone, I'm not giving them assistance GRUDGINGLY (I 'm not a hypocrite), I will only "give" assistance when I will be "CHEERFUL" about it (The Lord doesn't want us to be hypocrites)....

2 Corinthians 9:7
"Each one must do as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver".
...do you see?.....this verse has NOTHING to do with MONEY, but the modern day moneychangers want us to think it does (they don't realize that they also have been taught lies, but they still have to pay their bills).

The 'Jesus scriptures' (gospel) tells us what we need to know about Jesus's time on earth and what He did for us (the "works of God") and that now we have the fulness of God.

The doctrine of Christ must not be discarded or ignored, but the printed words (TEXT) must not replace the SPIRIT as our teacher/trainer...(in order to have a more excellent RELATIONSHIP DEVOTION with God (not aBOOK DEVOTION)..

2 John 1:9
"Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God; he who abides in the doctrine has BOTH the Father and the Son".

So, live the LAW of LIBERTY (it is God's DESIRE....you do care about His WILL, don't you?, James 1:25 and 2:12)......He abolished the old law of rules/ordinances and commandments....

Ephesians 2:15 "by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances".

Now that you know it's there, let that "God seed" grow.

All verses are from the RSV.

.....(many versions of scripture have been corrupted somewhat, especially the newer ones from today, BEWARE!).

http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NLT/nlt_exposed.htm

So would you say we are not in the past, present and future in the same instance?

Your post was a long one , how would you sum it up? (if it can be summed up?)

Neshama,

NO, I will NOT "sum it up" (even if there was something to be "summed up"). It is the wrong attitude to want what I have written to be "summed up".

The Lord visited villages where He showed His truth and performed miracles so that any sane person on earth should believe "THE TRUTH", but the villagers instead chose to pursue WISDOM from their books and religious leaders by seeking approval from their scriptural understandings. So The Lord said to those towns.....

"Woe to you, Chora'zin! woe to you, Beth-sa'ida! for if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes" (Matthew 11:21).

Matthew 11:23
"And you, Caper'na-um, will you be exalted to heaven? You shall be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day".

The Lord will not entertain "intellectualism" or "summed up" packages of pride. The Lord will not be put in a bottle like a genie. The Lord will not be confined or caged by "comprehensible knowledge".

I'm 56 years old and came to Jesus 25 years ago (I know what the "christian" churches believe).....do you see what I've written in the last 5 days?......to my knowledge, the world does not know the things of what I write and hasn't known it for more than 1900 years........and your reaction is "sum it up"???? Don't be like those towns that disregarded the truth that was set right before their eyes because they rather have "summed up" "WISDOM" and be masters of knowledge. Develop eyes to see what is superficial. Wisdom doesn't matter, the possession of wisdom causes PRIDE, therefore Proverbs says "Get UNDERSTANDING"....(example--the way an auto mechanic UNDERSTANDS "how" and WHY an engine works). The apex of human knowledge is not "wisdom", it is "UNDERSTANDING" (if you really want "true knowledge" about something, understand the "mechanix" of how and why it works/is).

Romans 12:2
"be transformed by the renewal of your mind".

I suffered 51 years of suicidal depression (but I didn't make MY SUFFERING anybody else's problem, I carried my cross/burdens and "endured" my own sufferings)......The Lord taught me IN MY HEART AND "MIND", not in my intellectual mind, but in my spirit/character mind (SELF).....

"But he who endures to the end will be saved" (Matthew 24:13).

I have learned "suffrage" and how to endure unhappiness. I've always had a reasonable fondness and peaceful regard for my fellow human being, but I never have or will truly desire that anyone should have more happiness than I have......Does this sound selfish and ungrateful for other people's/society's kindness to me? (gracious givers expect nothing in return, and I will not be grateful to imperialistic givers).


Luke 6:35
"for he is kind to the ungrateful and the selfish".

.........well then, since it is HIS KINDNESS I seek, and He desires (His WILL) that I only have as much regard/"love" for others that I have for myself, I will not burden myself with anyone's grief/troubles of not understanding something (or would you rather I have "suicide" regard for you?).....

....yes, I am an arrogant S.O.B., not a HYPOCRITE.

YOU are supposed to be the only one on earth to care about your SOUL (do not let OTHER PEOPLE do the caring, you'll be misled and you will lose "SELF"/soul).

What I have written is self-explanatory (you do the understanding, request assistance ONLY from GOD HIMSELF).

We can "DISCUSS", but TRUTH can really not be DEBATED because truth is non-negotiable (that's the inflexible nature of truth, don't take it personally).

Roy,

"God is LOVE" (is this why you refer to "the book of love"??).

...and what is "the one inside"??

In scripture, the single IMPORTANT part of what is written in the bible (the gospel) is specified as the "word of THE truth" (is this what you refer to as "the one inside"??).

Colossians 1 :5
"the word of the truth, the gospel".

The WHOLE bible is referred to as the "word of truth".
2 Timothy 2:15
"rightly handling the word of truth".

.....and of course, JESUS is the collective personification of all written of Him...
James 1:18
"Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures".


...but let's not start "splitting hairs", that gets into "intellectualism" and pride.

So as to always avoid any confusion (God is not the author of confusion), always be explanatory and informative. Are you making a generic reference to "scripture"?.

What is "the one inside"?

Roy,

I had a suspicion about your previous post mentioning a "book of love" and "the one inside" that you were travelling in the darkness. Now I know that you are rejecting the truth about God.

You are obsessed with "sums" and what's "inside" of yourself.

I have nothing more to say to you.