what irritates the crud out of me about "Christians" so-called
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Pride is a sin common to all mankind.
17 But the one who boasts is to boast in the Lord. 18 For it is not the one who commends himself that is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends. 2 Corinthians 10:17-18
These are verses I'm quite comfortable with.
I am not remotely a fan of the JW faith, but I do fine that if a person puts aside their own egotism / preconceptions, I find folks whom truly love Christ & strive to follow Him in those pews. Not everyone-- every set of pews has those whose hearts are far from Him, but they are still there. Same with every other set of pews. And with our egos put aside, we can all truly come closer to Christ. Hence my urging of humility rather than calling names or other such behavior.
False humility is easy, but I will boast in my relationship with my Lord, my God, my Savior, my brother through adoption, and my friend, the LORD, Jesus Christ.
Waiting on him
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Notice how I'm specifically standing up against such egotism. Christ is the judge. You, I, and everyone else are filthy disgusting sinners. And we are called to be humble & love one another.
Waiting on him
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I’m not a great fan either, but I appreciate Barney’s contribution here as it leads me to a better understanding of their theology.
No, because I'm not aware that he did anything wrong. It isn't sin to disagree on doctrine. However, Paul pronounced curses upon those that preached another gospel.
I've had friendly acquaintances among the JWs and the brother that prayed with me to receive His Spirit was actually raised as a JW, but was delivered from that deception and born again through faith in our Lord, an impossibility for those who cling to a false gospel.
The Jehovah's Witnesses can be very moral people, or they can be murderers and liars (as were the couple who were my uncle Munoz' servants in Alicante Spain before he died suddenly, followed by my aunt rose, leaving their entire estate to these children of the devil.) Jehovah's Witnesses can be every bit as moral as a devout Buddhist or Mormon.
Etiquette is not a spiritual gift, nor is deferring to another.
The Bible makes a great rule book for those convinced that salvation comes by following rules, to the extent that they're able. But, salvation is of the Lord, not men.
Speak for yourself. The Lord has pronounced me cleansed by His blood and when I do sin, there is immediate forgiveness at the cross. Don't you know these things?
You do know that JW missionaries are instructed not to tell their intended victims that they don't believe in Jesus's divinity or equality with God, right? One inexperienced convert sheepishly acknowledged that in my living room while I disproved their arguments verse by verse. The apostates here no longer try to hide their rebellion and unbelief.
Ferris Bueller
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"that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:11
BARNEY BRIGHT
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What spiritual gifts have you received and what does being born again mean to you?
Waiting on him
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Maybe Ferris can straighten Barney out?
Waiting on him
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Believe the Bible, trust the Lord's sacrifice on your behalf, and your eyes will certainly be fixed. Christ didn't come to condemn sinners, but to save them (and He does every day.)
The long-suffering of our Lord is salvation. Who exactly do you think He's long-suffering toward?
20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. Romans 8:20-21
Liberty is a good thing and it was for freedom that Christ set me free. Hallelujah and Amen.
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Thanks brother. We've disagreed more than once, but not on the fundamentals (as far as my failing memory can recall.)
Thanks for upholding the word of God.
Christ saves wretched sinners. Such is not a license to sin or be egotistical. Rather we are called to be humble and love each other. I urge that.
I realize that’s a very different wave length than your “anti-cult” approach- one I passionately disagree with. I also acknowledge that you’re 99% likely to just defend said approach, and not going to change. So I’ve urged and said my peace, and will leave it at that.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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