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Jordan

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Trees again are people. We have shewed ye, that the tree of life (Jesus) and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. (Lucy) And the tree equals people. Why cause there is no literal fruit.Cain did not even marry his sister, cause he was banished from being with his family (Adam and Eve) after he killed Abel.Genesis 4:14 - Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.Genesis 4:16 - And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.Genesis 4:17 - And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.He married a female that was on the 6th day creation (people) (that has no knowledge.)
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Kriss, what particular scripture reference are you talking about when you say the Nod?Where did they come from?Tama,I'm just use to my Pastor, He's an Indian from India, so I guess I just kind of familiar with the way foriegners put sentences together, no need to apologize, because we all do a good job of butchering up the english language. What is your original country?
 

Christina

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Gen 4:16 It is commonly accepted that Cain Married a woman from the land of Nod (meaning the land of the wandering) who did he marry if no people other people existed on the earth?
 

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Tama,I'm just use to my Pastor, He's an Indian from India, so I guess I just kind of familiar with the way foriegners put sentences together, no need to apologize, because we all do a good job of butchering up the english language. What is your original country?
I'm Ukrainian. Borne and raised there. Moved here at 16...
 

Tama

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Gen 4:16 It is commonly accepted that Cain Married a woman from the land of Nod (meaning the land of the wandering) who did he marry if no people other people existed on the earth?
Adam and Eve were still having children whe all that took place. They had daughters and sons, and Bible doesn't specify who lived where.
 

Tama

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So do you guys think that Satan was the only Angel in the garden? Where did the people of Nod come from or is it that God broke his own Law and Cain married his sister. How do you explain when there are no contrdictions in Gods word it is perfect. and God is not the author of confusion.
God created Adam in His image. Then He created Eve. How could there be other people when God created the First person Adam. Bible clearly says that man was created in His image. So, the 'other people' you're talking about (trees) were God's creation - they are either not people or came from Adam and Eve, because that's how population reproduced... There were evil and good Angels in the garden of Eden, yes. But agels aren't people.
 

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Tama,I've never met anyone from the Ukraine, what is your favorite food in Ukraine?
Um, I don't think the owner of this thread will appreciate us talking about UKR food on here.
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Christina

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So Tama it is your believe that Cain married his sister and that God broke his own Law???? So is it no proof(that you see) leads you to believe that Gods word is contradictory to itself? please explain.
 

Tama

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So Tama it is your believe that Cain married his sister and that God broke his own Law???? So is it no proof(that you see) leads you to believe that Gods word is contradictory to itself? please explain.
Where did you get that from? Who said anything about God breaking the law? And why are you so surprised Cain married his sister? People did that to reproduce. It was very common thru out the beginning of Old testament.
 

Jordan

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So do you guys think that Satan was the only Angel in the garden? Where did the people of Nod come from or is it that God broke his own Law and Cain married his sister. How do you explain when there are no contrdictions in Gods word it is perfect. and God is not the author of confusion.
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God created Adam in His image. Then He created Eve. How could there be other people when God created the First person Adam. Bible clearly says that man was created in His image. So, the 'other people' you're talking about (trees) were God's creation - they are either not people or came from Adam and Eve, because that's how population reproduced... There were evil and good Angels in the garden of Eden, yes. But agels aren't people.
That's a good question.
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Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.Genesis 2:7 - And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.Creation and formed are 2 seperated things. For example, I created a picture and then I formed it on a piece of paper. Similar concept.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.P.S. To Tama - Cain did not marry his sister, no where in the bible state that he marry his sister.
 

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Where did you get that from? Who said anything about God breaking the law? And why are you so surprised Cain married his sister? People did that to reproduce. It was very common thru out the beginning of Old testament.
TamaSo you are saying God says incest is acceptable? (please document)
 

Christina

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So Kriss who where the people of Nod?
Well Jody we have two choices either believe Cain married his sister and God really didnt mean it when he said incest was a sin. That its ok to commit pagon sins sometimes. or We can believe that it is as 2nd Peter tells us that each creation day was 1000 years long and in 2 Peter 3:8Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (does it say live in a garden?) Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. God restedFast forward a few thousand years man has been wondering the earth for a couple thousand years what kind of man? perhaps what we may consider a cave man (not any half monkey evolutionary creature) but a real man(earlyman) but he has no spirit of God breathed into him he is simple a physical type of man. Gen 2: 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- the LORD God formed The man The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to the Hebrew for ground (adamah) it is also the name Adam (see Gen. 2:20). from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. First we hear of Adam the Hebrew is very specific that this is "THE MAN" a different type man with the breath(spirit of God breathed into him)then God goes on to tell us how he created a Garden for this man to live in. Could it be that this was a speacial line of Man.? That ADAM was created separate a speacial line to bring Christ through ?and that Cain married one of the earlier creations.
 

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TamaSo you are saying God says incest is acceptable? (please document)
Abraham married his sister! And it didn't stop there. They birthed His nation!!!! His chosen people! Genesis 20 11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. 13And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said unto her, This is thy kindness which thou shalt shew unto me; at every place whither we shall come, say of me, He is my brother.
 

Tama

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That's a good question.
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Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.Genesis 2:7 - And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.Creation and formed are 2 seperated things. For example, I created a picture and then I formed it on a piece of paper. Similar concept.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.P.S. To Tama - Cain did not marry his sister, no where in the bible state that he marry his sister.
Um, If you read the beginning of a 2nd chapter, you'll see that it summarises the 6 days of creation... Genesis 2 1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
 

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Abraham married his sister! And it didn't stop there. They birthed His nation!!!! His chosen people! Genesis 20 11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. 13And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said unto her, This is thy kindness which thou shalt shew unto me; at every place whither we shall come, say of me, He is my brother.
For one thing this is Abrahams half sister for another we are talking a man. Men sin. There is a big difference between a sin sanctified by God which it would have to had to have been for Cain to marry his full sister the sin of incest would have been forced upon Cain by God for lack of any other course. This defeys common sense and is completely contrary to the Word and nature of God.
 

Tama

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For one thing this is Abrahams half sister for another we are talking a man. Men sin. There is a big difference between a sin sanctified by God which it would have to have been for Cain to marry his full sister the sin of incest would have been forced upon Cain by God for lack of anyother course. This defeys common sense and is completely contrary to the Word and nature of God.
Actually - Abraham's 'half-sister' is his blood sister. They came from the same father and you know that baby doesn't ashare blood with mother. It gets 100% of his blood from father... So both of them came from the same blood... Also - God says DO NOT KILL, but He and His army destroyed armies, cities, families. See - there are different sides to every action vs the law.
 

Christina

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Well Jody we have two choices either believe Cain married his sister and God really didnt mean it when he said incest was a sin. That its ok to commit pagon sins sometimes. or We can believe that it is as 2nd Peter tells us that each creation day was 1000 years long and in 2 Peter 3:8Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (does it say live in a garden?) Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. God restedFast forward a few thousand years man has been wondering the earth for a couple thousand years what kind of man? perhaps what we may consider a cave man (not any half monkey evolutionary creature) but a real man(earlyman) but he has no spirit of God breathed into him he is simple a physical type of man. Gen 2: 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- the LORD God formed The man The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to the Hebrew for ground (adamah) it is also the name Adam (see Gen. 2:20). from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. First we hear of Adam the Hebrew is very specific that this is "THE MAN" a different type man with the breath(spirit of God breathed into him)then God goes on to tell us how he created a Garden for this man to live in. Could it be that this was a speacial line of Man.? That ADAM was created separate a speacial line to bring Christ through ?and that Cain married one of the earlier creations.
Ill stick with my above sceniro for I choose to believe the Hebrew lanuage rather than men. And,yes God has asked men to do things but after the fall after Satan and sin came into the world because he had a plan to forgive them. But you are asking we believe that God did not create the world perfect.