Sad but true. So glaringly evident are the sins of some that they can't but confess otherwise.
A Spiritual Christian does not sin.
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Sad but true. So glaringly evident are the sins of some that they can't but confess otherwise.
And so it continues,,,, Blind, even to being tagged as silly school-kids. Allow me to offer some VERY GOOD advice. The Lord of the second advent comes not to recognise your own truths, rather He comes that we may recognise HIS truths.
Some of HIS truths will be hard to hear.
Thank you Stan. B)
God's greatest concern is the parent child relationship. God as the parent, mankind as His children. children may think they understand the parent but they really don't. Not until they grow and mature will they start understanding the parents heart.
John 5: 39 - 40
Coming to a public forum can present one with an overwhelming sense of the lostness of the many. But I try to make smaller and smaller points...just to get the ball rolling. However, even this can seem pointless at times. I do know of a few nay sayers that became convinced of their error and changed their path towards the truth in Christ. One in particular became a close brother. So I encourage you to not give up!!! This is a great place to learn patience...it is like the wild west here!!!!
The truth of Jesus is easy to bear, easy to understand, easy to speak. Since we only speak HIS truth in maturity as Men of God as moved and revealed by His Word in His Holy Spirit in witness to the truth spoken by Axehead, Episkopos and Dragonfly.
On the other hand, I've seen the sins written first hand of those who speak against those Holy messengers of the Words of Christ as delivered by these men. I bare witness before Christ Jesus our Lord.
One thing they don't do, is use theological terms invented by men. They only speak the Words of Christ.
Speaking of which... Yies1, where is the term "second advent" found in the Bible?
In fact, in ANY translation, where is the word "advent" found?
See what I mean?
It is easy to tell who is of the Lord and who is an enemy to the Gospel.
Advent is a perfectly fine translation of parousia.
Isn't this quarrelling over words?
Yes it is quite sad that some refuse to be humble and penitent under Christ, seeing as He paid the ultimate sacrifice for our sins.
Acts 13:38-40
[sup]38 [/sup]“Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. [sup]39 [/sup]Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses. [sup]40 [/sup]Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you:
Brother, there are others here who know the Lord, and I'm more than a little uncomfortable with kudos for obedience. 2 Timothy 4:2
Where in the Bible, does it say Jesus had a bath? Yet I am able to deduce (via my intellect), that on occasion, Jesus would have bathed. Would you consider my conclusion as evidence that 'I am an enemy to the Gospel? Afterall It's not mentioned in the Bible!
He was baptized by John!
Please forgive me for saying this, but your reply is the Most moronic responce I have ever had the pleasure of reading. Are you saying that Jesus would never have needed to bathe because He was Baptised???
It is in just about any Latin Bible that exists in any RC church. FYI, it is the anglicized Latin word for 'coming'.
Do they have a sense of humour where you come from?
You gotta play it more cool
In other words, you had nothing to say. So you were attempting to downplay my comments through the use of humour, I understand.
Aren't you here to downplay the subject of this thread through rhetoric....and not even get it when you are caught out in your own over seriousness and lack of cool?
Once again, I thank you Stan, also Mark.
Cool? I left cool beind 30 years ago. When I was a child I thought as a child...
I wonder if Jesus was ever accused of not being "Cool" enough, when discussing scripture?
The word "parousia" quite specifically means "presence".
It is never translated "advent".
"Advent" is a word used by pushers of men's doctrine, specifically the doctrines of the futurists. As in fabricating the term "second -advent" to push a non-scriptural topic.
It is a symptom to look for to ferret out the enemies of the Gospel. Their use of non-scriptural words. It is a ploy of satan.
Exactly. And where is Latin EVER spoken by men of God? Never.
The catholics invented the word and term and made it mean "coming" instead of "presence", as is the actual meaning. It is never a word used in any English scriptures.
That is how the devil works in changing meaning.
You make me feel quite sad whitestone.
Would it help if in future I referred to Christ's 2nd Coming as the 2nd Coming? Or would that be violating your, err I mean God's rules.
Wasn't Martin Luther a latin speaking preacher? Without Martin Luther, which language would your Bible be written?
The gospel of Mark leaned heavily on the latin language.
You have definitely developed a couple of noids whitestone. Take some responsibility for your words. Second Advent and Second Coming mean exactly the same thing, if you KNOW English. You strain at gnats. ALL languages have words that mean the exact same thing. Maybe you think the Bible was written in English? You're now trying to tell us that the second coming is a non-scriptural topic. Amazing how you are so sure of what words the Bible does use, when it is of NO consequence, and yet you will not see the words that bind you in your blindness. The only one changing the meaning of words is you my friend.
Thank you Stan for hitting the nail on the head. Taking responsibility is an act of maturity. I hold little hope that whitestone, will heed your words. But I do have to confess that playing in his playground for the past hour or so was fun. But fun time is over now.
Whitestone, I concede our discussion.. You are an incredible debater, and everything you said to me has been taken to heart. Well Done
God Bless.
Whitestone, I concede our discussion.. You are an incredible debater, and everything you said to me has been taken to heart. Well Done
God Bless.
I think you are mistaken.
[sup]6 [/sup]And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
[sup]11 [/sup]Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
[sup]20 [/sup]Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
[sup]21 [/sup]For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Spirit was working in holy men of God who obeyed him before the New Covenant.
Zechariah 4:6
King James Version (KJV)
[sup]6 [/sup]Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.
Men have been lead by the Spirit before the New Covenant. Now all men through Christ can be empowered by Gods Holy Spirit and live the lives that God intended for them.
God promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 that the new covenant would not be as the old covenant.
That is made clear. Man could not obey the law but some men like King David still received the annointing of the Holy Spirit.
Those called by God to serve his purpose especially the Prophets.
The New covenant came in with Christ. But we should not limit or forget that the Holy Spirit has been guiding men since before the new covenant. This new covenant is for all men. Not just Jews but gentiles too and allows us to serve God forgiven.
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