Is smoking a sin?

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My neighbor smokes and it enters my apartment. I think the point is not to take it too seriously or you'll go crazy. It's just a smell not a smoke that is concentrated enough to cause cancer. Cancer smoke has to be concentrated. So if they're smoking in your apartment and the room is filled with smoke then it's a problem.
About 30 years ago when my wife's asthma was at its worst and her pulmonologist was working hard to stabilize her, he, the doctor, suggested she visit a hospital in Denver that specialized in respiratory problems like hers. I took an extended vacation from work, and we drove from Oklahoma to Denver. On the way we stopped at a restaurant to eat.

Smoking was still allowed in restaurants at the time, but they were required to have separate areas for non-smokers. We sat at a table and ordered our food. While we were waiting a group of about 20 young soldiers [U.S. Army] came in and they moved several tables together to form a long single table all the way on the other side of the large room in the part where smoking allowed so they could sit together.

I said something to our waitress about my wife's susceptibility and was advised in turn that the restaurant was in fully compliance with the new smoking ordinances in place even though there were no wall or barriers of any kind between us and the smokers.

Before our food arrived most of the young men lit up their cigarettes and very shortly my wife went into a severe asthma attack cause by the smoke.

Instead of enjoying our meal I rushed her to the local hospital. It was near-by, so they were able to bring her out of it OK. Perhaps we would have done better by staying home where no one was allowed to smoke in our home?

These days I guess you cannot smoke at all in public restaurants. However, with COVID-19 being what it is or is not, my wife is still allergic to almost anything in the air and her immune system was severely permanently damaged by the continuous use of steroids for years to control her asthma. It did help with the asthma, but... So, we do not go to restaurants or many other places where people many people go at all anymore. So then, how bad is second-hand smoke... and other things?
 

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About 30 years ago when my wife's asthma was at its worst and her pulmonologist was working hard to stabilize her, he, the doctor, suggested she visit a hospital in Denver that specialized in respiratory problems like hers. I took an extended vacation from work, and we drove from Oklahoma to Denver. On the way we stopped at a restaurant to eat.

Smoking was still allowed in restaurants at the time, but they were required to have separate areas for non-smokers. We sat at a table and ordered our food. While we were waiting a group of about 20 young soldiers [U.S. Army] came in and they moved several tables together to form a long single table all the way on the other side of the large room in the part where smoking allowed so they could sit together.

I said something to our waitress about my wife's susceptibility and was advised in turn that the restaurant was in fully compliance with the new smoking ordinances in place even though there were no wall or barriers of any kind between us and the smokers.

Before our food arrived most of the young men lit up their cigarettes and very shortly my wife went into a severe asthma attack cause by the smoke.

Instead of enjoying our meal I rushed her to the local hospital. It was near-by, so they were able to bring her out of it OK. Perhaps we would have done better by staying home where no one was allowed to smoke in our home?

These days I guess you cannot smoke at all in public restaurants. However, with COVID-19 being what it is or is not, my wife is still allergic to almost anything in the air and her immune system was severely permanently damaged by the continuous use of steroids for years to control her asthma. It did help with the asthma, but... So, we do not go to restaurants or many other places where people many people go at all anymore. So then, how bad is second-hand smoke... and other things?
I have a-typical cystic fibrosis and almost died as a child from an asthma attack so I understand. But now it cleared up. I can even smoke now when I want. I'm not worried about second hand smoke. I have an inhaler I use if my lungs give me trouble, which is rare. They used to try to give me steroids, but I would't take them. Sorry to hear about your wife. Prayers.
 
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I have a-typical cystic fibrosis and almost died as a child from an asthma attack so I understand. But now it cleared up. I can even smoke now when I want. I'm not worried about second hand smoke. I have an inhaler I use if my lungs give me trouble, which is rare. They used to try to give me steroids, but I would't take them. Sorry to hear about your wife. Prayers.
The good thing I guess is that we were not going very many places any more anyway. The bad thing is that the few places we still enjoyed going have also been declared off limits.
 

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The good thing I guess is that we were not going very many places any more anyway. The bad thing is that the few places we still enjoyed going have also been declared off limits.
Why are you not going places since smoking is not allowed anymore?
 

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Is smoking a sin?
OP ^

No.
Disbelief in the Lord God is a mans sin Against God.
 

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@amadeus ~
Some public places (like restaurants) have banned smoking, others allow smoking, some do an excellent job of allowing and separating smokers from non-smokers, some allow, but do a “poor job of separating smokers and non-smokers...” and so do a “poor” job of ventilation in a smokers area.

It seems to land on who owns and operates the building or it’s service... of what they are willing to Invest and Risk.
Invest to accommodate all or Risk losing business.

Blessings to you and the Mrs.

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It seems to land on who owns and operates the building or it’s service... of what they are willing to Invest and Risk.
Invest to accommodate all or Risk losing business.

As I've said in this thread and I quote, "Good is bad and bad is good" is today's trend in the world.

Galatians 6:10 reads:
"As we have therefore opportunity, let us do GOOD unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith."

Today's businesses are to covet the mammon of unrighteousness instead of obeying the laws of the land.

To God Be The Glory
 

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Why are you not going places since smoking is not allowed anymore?
My wife has a severely compromised immune system meaning she easily catches anything around that can be caught. Weekly, she injects herself with an immunoglobulin bit of gold. It supplements her defective immune system ruined by steroids over a 20-year period. With other problems weakening her whole system, we readily tightened our belts at the beginning of the covid-19 lockdowns. While they have loosened up on that somewhat in our area, she is not stronger, so we have not. Our lives are now mostly self-contained within our little apartment. We are heading for the 50-year mark. Golden Anniversary this coming June!
 
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@amadeus ~
Some public places (like restaurants) have banned smoking, others allow smoking, some do an excellent job of allowing and separating smokers from non-smokers, some allow, but do a “poor job of separating smokers and non-smokers...” and so do a “poor” job of ventilation in a smokers area.

It seems to land on who owns and operates the building or it’s service... of what they are willing to Invest and Risk.
Invest to accommodate all or Risk losing business.

Blessings to you and the Mrs.

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Thank you, Taken,

The one thing we really miss, is dining out at a restaurant once in a while. Our last meal in a restaurant was prior to March of 2020. We order meals from restaurants periodically where they deliver or I pick up at curbside, but that is not the same and being waited on inside their facility.
 

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My wife has a severely compromised immune system meaning she easily catches anything around that can be caught. Weekly, she injects herself with an immunoglobulin bit of gold. It supplements her defective immune system ruined by steroids over a 20-year period. With other problem weakening her whole system, we readily tightened our belts beginning of the covid-19 lockdowns. While they have loosened up on that somewhat in our area, she is not stronger, so we have not. Our lives are now mostly self-contained with our little apartment. We are heading for the 50-year mark. Golden Anniversary this coming June!
Congratulations! I understand about the compromised immune system. Keep safe.
 
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As I've said in this thread and I quote, "Good is bad and bad is good" is today's trend in the world.

Galatians 6:10 reads:
"As we have therefore opportunity, let us do GOOD unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith."

Today's businesses are to covet the mammon of unrighteousness instead of obeying the laws of the land.

To God Be The Glory

Yes. The Law of the land is Liberty, not what politicians stand up and dictate.
 
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Thank you, Taken,

The one thing we really miss, is dining out at a restaurant once in a while. Our last meal in a restaurant was prior to March of 2020. We order meals from restaurants periodically where they deliver or I pick up at curbside, but that is not the same and being waited on inside their facility.

Eating out has always been rare for us. So not doing so now is not something we miss. I see the lines of cars stacked up at the fast food drive in’s ... but that was and is a regular thing. Filling, tasty and no nutritional benefits. We avoid.
 
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The Bible does not mention smoking, or other means of using tobacco. However, it contains principles showing that God does not approve of unhealthy and unclean habits and thus views smoking as a sin.

Respect for life. “God . . . gives to all people life and breath.” (Acts 17:24, 25) Since life is a gift from God, we should not do anything that would shorten our life, such as smoking. Smoking is one of the main causes of preventable death worldwide.

Love of neighbor. “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” (Matthew 22:39) Smoking around others does not show love. Those who are routinely subjected to secondhand smoke are at higher risk of some of the same diseases that smokers often suffer from.

The need to be holy. “Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.” (Romans 12:1) “Let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” (2 Corinthians 7:1) Smoking is unnatural and incompatible with being holy—that is, clean and pure—because tobacco users intentionally consume toxins that seriously damage their body.

How do you feel about it?
I would think it's defiling our bodies,the temple of God.
Besides the fact, imo, it's a ridiculous act of self-destruction and an act of slow costly suicide.

I work as a cashier in a mini-market. I see the monies spent daily by regular customers buying packs or cartons.
And for what? Lung cancer, COPD, esophageal cancer, heart disease, and on and on.
They're buying their way to a slow painful death.

And I work with someone who still smokes even after being treated for COPD.
 
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I would think it's defiling our bodies,the temple of God.
Besides the fact, imo, it's a ridiculous act of self-destruction and an act of slow costly suicide.

I work as a cashier in a mini-market. I see the monies spent daily by regular customers buying packs or cartons.
And for what? Lung cancer, COPD, esophageal cancer, heart disease, and on and on.
They're buying their way to a slow painful death.

And I work with someone who still smokes even after being treated for COPD.
My ex-brother-in-law just told me he has COPD and he smokes. Smoke is bad for you for sure. So is eating smoked meats. It's all covered under my thread here: Concerned about cancer...
 

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Except and unlike the tobacco company the recipe for smoking fish doesn't include freebasing the smoke in order to addict the consumer of smoked fish.

The Secret of Marlboro's Success: Freebase Nicotine
*Freebased nicotine is even found in liquid vape products
Very true, try quitting cigarettes, then next try quitting food. One could argue their both addictive. Just one is healthy and the other is not. But as I pointed out smoked foods cause cancer.
 

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Very true, try quitting cigarettes, then next try quitting food. One could argue their both addictive. Just one is healthy and the other is not. But as I pointed out smoked foods cause cancer.
I think one can endlessly argue for why they need feel its OK to keep smoking cigarettes.

One thing about the bad food analogy. A person doesn't starve to death if they quit smoking cigarettes.
 

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Eating out has always been rare for us. So not doing so now is not something we miss. I see the lines of cars stacked up at the fast food drive in’s ... but that was and is a regular thing. Filling, tasty and no nutritional benefits. We avoid.
No, not the fast-food places for us either. We liked a nice steak or prime rib or crab legs but not often because of the cost. Now the prices of food everywhere are going up so high, such dining would have to be very rare in any case.

When my wife is up to it, she fixes it better than they do for less money. I am the clean-up man. First, I clean up the meal and then the kitchen!
 
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I would think it's defiling our bodies,the temple of God.
Besides the fact, imo, it's a ridiculous act of self-destruction and an act of slow costly suicide.

I work as a cashier in a mini-market. I see the monies spent daily by regular customers buying packs or cartons.
And for what? Lung cancer, COPD, esophageal cancer, heart disease, and on and on.
They're buying their way to a slow painful death.

And I work with someone who still smokes even after being treated for COPD.

Wow been a while since anyone gave me a comment on this post. Thanks maam, I agree with you of course. It is very silly, heartbreaking actually. On a positive note, high prices and education has done considerable good in reducing the number of those who choose to smoke. One way in which the scene of this worlds changing is not always a negative thing. Thanks for your post Ocean.
 
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