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Reader,

God does not and did not create "evil".
Evil exists, because Adam fell, (sinned) and his dominion became the devil's ownership.
When Adam obeyed the temptation to sin, ... he was giving the devil worship, as to sin, is to give the devil his due.
The nature of sin, is the Devil's nature.
See, Just as God is Good, the Devil is evil.
Just as God is Holy, the Devil is unholy.

Reader... DEATH is the opposite of LIFE.


Evil is the opposite of Good., just as spiritual Darkness is the absence of THE Light of Life.
Evil is the end result of original sin, and the Devil was a sinner from the beginning, as he was a murderer and a liar in his heart.
When you sin.......this is the nature of the Devil, enacted.

So, when God created this world, John 1:10. there was no sin in it yet, there was just a Devil who was evil who was cast out of heaven, and was down here waiting for his chance, to rule something.
When Adam gave the Devil, Satan.......his Authority, the devil became the "god of this world".
This is Adam's Authority, and The devil confiscated it, because Adam gave the devil the chance when Adam sinned.
Adam's sin, released to the devil, dominion and authority, on this earth, and so the Devil created mankind's nature, as His own.
This is the Adamic Nature. Its literally the nature of the DEVIL.
Reader......the "fallen nature", is the nature of the one who "fell from Heaven".
See it?
Jesus said..>"i beheld Lucifer/Satan FALL as lightning, from Heaven"""

That "fall" is a representation of falling as the unholy.
And the sin nature is the EVIL, that came from the devil.
Jesus said..>"you are of YOUR FATHER, the DEVIL, and the lusts of your father, you shall DO".
See that? that is the sin nature.....the adamic nature, the fallen nature, in everyone.
And the only way to escape it, is to get a new Father.
= Born again, by God, so that He becomes your "ABBA".."Father"

When you are born again, you receive the Nature of God. You get a new nature, the born again SPIRIT..... as you have become a NEW Creation. "in Christ".

So, its the Devil who is evil and has created the evil.
Evil is simply behavior that is unholy, unrighteous, sinful....In LIGHT of God's Righteousness.

God didn't create any of that... He only created creation, with Adam having dominion, and when Adam sinned, then this dominion was transferred to the EVIL ONE who has done to the human race, very great evil....and they perpetuate it.
 

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Everyone knows this.

If everyone knew it, then forums like this one would not be ruined by ranting religious but lost people who are trying to keep commandments, to stay saved.
They would not be trusting in water, thinking that being water baptized saved them.
They would not be trying to prove that "only those that God chose, go to heaven".

So, actually, very few know it. Very few understand the Blood Atonement.
 

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I understand that Jesus offered Himself once as an atonement for sin. And accept that.
But I still fall. and I still have to ask for forgiveness. Jesus instructed us to do so in the Lord's Prayer.
 

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I understand that Jesus offered Himself once as an atonement for sin.

No,

You wrote this......>"as an atonement'... as if there are several.
That's not accurate.
Jesus is THE Atonement......He is the only blood offering who died on THE Cross, as THE Atonement that God offers to the world... John 3:16
There is no other.
Just the BLOOD OF GOD, who is CHRIST ON THE CROSS.
He is THE THE THE Atonement.. He is THE WAY. THE TRUTH. THE LIFE.. THE only way to The Father.
 

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I agree. He offered Himself ONCE--that was enough. I don't know where you got the idea that i meant there were several.
 

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I agree. He offered Himself ONCE--that was enough. I don't know where you got the idea that i meant there were several.

"Once for all".

Cassandra,

Lets say you asked me........"give me a good clear concept on how God saves us, so that i can teach my kids in Sunday School class".


Ok.

1.) God is Holy. This means sinless, righteous.
We are not.
And the problem is we are going to die and end up somewhere.
Heaven and the Kingdom of God.... is God's domain, and to go there,... to be there..... you have to be the SAME Holiness and Righteousness and Sinlessness, as God.
You have to be EQUAL to GOD's righteousness.......as your own.

Now, how can water baptism cause that?
How can joining a church cause that?
How can drinking juice and eating a cracker cause that?
How can keeping commandments and trying to be a good person, cause that?
What can you, as a human being... who has sinned all your life, DO FOR YOURSELF......that is going to forgive all your sin, for your entire life, including future sin, so that you end up not only sinless, but as righteous as God Himself...and that is what you have to become if you want to go to heaven.

"class", do you SEE the Problem. ???????

The answer is.....you can do NOTHING to solve your lack of righteousness, or your sin problem.
You are hell bound..

2.) So, GOD, in His mercy, understands that you are in this horrible situation.
So, GOD, in His mercy, came to earth, born of a virgin, ... God became ONE OF US< to die for ALL OF US as Christ on the Cross.
That's God's eternal solution for "all who will believe" and be "born again".
There is no other way.... John 14:6

And this DEATH, and this BLOOD, that GOD as Christ on the Cross has offered to us all.... 2000 yrs ago, will take care of your sin....all of it.
And this LIFE that Jesus lived...Holy, ..will be given to you, supernaturally, as if you lived it.. And in that you become "in Christ", "the righteousness of God"...."One with God".
You literally spiritually BECOME, as born again.....a "new creation". "In Christ".
See that? That is SALVATION. That IS THE GRACE OF GOD.

3.) So, "class", do you see how GOD has both taken care of your sin, and also given your SPIRIT a new birth, that is to be born again equal to God's own holiness. ?
its the Holy Spirit of God that causes your spirit to become born again..>"made righteous".
This is the "gift of Salvation", and "the Gift of Righteousness".

So, that is : SALVATiON. That is what it means to be SAVED. That is the bumper sticker...>"Jesus SAVES".
See How?

Its God dealing with ALL your sin, and also causing you to become HIS VERY Righteousness...= this is to be born again, Spiritually by the HOLY Spirit.
See, its the born again Spirit, that is "made righteous"...not your body, or your "flesh", or your mind.
And because this happens to your SPIRIT, is the only reason God will have you, take you, and keep you, in His Spiritual Family.

When you read in the NT that the born again are : SAINTS.
Now you know how to become one.

Jesus said..>"you MUST be born again".
 

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So does all of this mean you don't sin after you accept Christ?

Then why does He say in the Lord's prayer, "Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors'?
 

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If everyone knew it, then forums like this one would not be ruined by ranting religious but lost people who are trying to keep commandments, to stay saved.
They would not be trusting in water, thinking that being water baptized saved them.
They would not be trying to prove that "only those that God chose, go to heaven".

So, actually, very few know it. Very few understand the Blood Atonement.
If you need to come on a forum to know that God is good and the Devil is evil, then you either have been living under a rock or something is mentally wrong with you.
 
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So does all of this mean you don't sin after you accept Christ?

Then why does He say in the Lord's prayer, "Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors'?


Colossians 3:13

we are to forgive the same way.

here is the thing tho.........to forgive, does not mean to always forget what they did, so that they get another chance to hurt us again.

"fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice, shame on me".