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Many of the Jews are evil and worship satan also, Kabbalah, Talmud, etc

All Jews aren't behind closed doors studying the Torah and Worshipping God as many believe, why pretend otherwise

And another thing the day 9/11 happened instead of that phony Bush Jr. addressing the Nation and saying how Islam is a religion of peace and asking for the American public to donate money to the many impoverished Muslim Children, I would've been sending a couple of F16's to fly over Mecca and decimating it to the ground, Kaaba and all, along with the many pilgrims that attend Mecca, as Payback.

A life for a life, a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye, is what it says in the bible right?

Instead since 9/11happened I've seen Muslim increase here in the US 100 fold, we would've ended WWIII before it even started.

Instead the government allowed more of these people to come into the country many of whom are terrorists.

So yeah my belief is that the jews should take back everything that is theirs Temple Mount, everything they occupy on Israeli ground.
 

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Of course I can, it is not the first FAKE I have heard from you, but ALL of your posts are FAKES, exclusively FAKES. The problem is the reward of your works falsifying the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

Daniel 9:.26-27-CJB- WHAT PREVAILS IS THE WORD OF GOD. The Word is GOD.
THE PROPHETIC FACTS AS THEY HAPPENED (NO MATTER BIBLICAL TRANSLATIONS)


V.26 - Then, AFTER (yeah AFTER) after the sixty-two weeks, MASHIACH will be cut off and have nothing.The people of A PRINCE (YEAH A PRINCE) yet to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but his end will come with a flood, and desolations are decreed until the war is over. (This has nothing to do with the destruction of Israel in the year 70AD, AS FOLLOWS WITH SOME QUESTIONS:

V.27 He (he WHOM? the PRINCE; who is he?) he will make a STRONG COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week [of years]. (THE WEEK 70th)
Do you see? This SATANIC PRINCE will RULE the last week, the week 70th, BY ENTIRE. And he will make a strong COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week[of years]. (This prince was/is not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely)


What kind of strong COVENANT the satanic PRINCE will make with leaders? Who are these leaders? By the way, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 will be divided in two periods of 3,5 years by the evil Prince.
In this POINT, that is, AFTER the END of the week 62, the prophecy is still to the beginning of the week 70th, and A PRINCE will start to work in his strong COVENANT with leaders; (What kind of Covenant? - Revelation 11:v.2 and Revelation 13:v.5

Therefore, in this point the FIRST half of the week 70th isn't started yet, it is I would say in stand by until this current time, and the STRONG COVENANT of the satanic PRINCE with the LEADERS will take place or will be applied for ONE WEEK, then the week 70th starts, I believe it will be in this current decade, there is a period of time AND EVENTS called as FIRST AND SECOND HALFS of the last week - the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27- that WILL be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE.

... he -the EVIL PRINCE- shall confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK he-THE EVIL PRINCE-shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Scripture does not say JESUS was crucified IN 29 AD, many people are saying that, not Scripture. What Scripture says is that AFTER, yeah, AFTER the week 62 plus 7 the Messiah is"cut off" - crucified .

JESUS was not crucified neither in the week 69, because the week 69 ENDED IN 34 BC, so JESUS was not crucified in the week 69th but AFTER the END of week 69, but also was not crucified in the midst of the week 70th ruled by the Wicked Prince, who says JESUS was crucified in the middle of week 70th is lying, it's a devilish lie, this week 70th is/will be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE by the entire. The evil Prince was not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely. THE evil Prince will manifest himself in this CURRENT decade, that is between 2020 to 2030, and the period of 7 years is within this current decade.
Well, here is the analogy of what went on with the "prince of evil" and the "Prince of Peace".

It's like a "short track" of a 70 lap "horse race", and we all are the "spectators".
We all are putting our "money" on the only TWO horses in that race, at "Daniel Land Raceway", and the crazy thing is, in the "track newspaper/bible" (page 9, line 27), both horses are referred to as being "HE" by the "bookies", aka "church-ianity".

Right out of the gate, many of the spectators remained confused, but did KNOW that the odds of winning or losing, was locked in as a 50/50 chance.

However, some of the spectators are not confused.
I hear tell, that just before the "Start", the OWNER of the two horses, was among the crowd, telling to all who would hear, of which "HE" was "highly favored" to bet on (figuratively speaking of course).

Edit: so what was that inside information that some received by the OWNER??
It was this:

John.5[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of... ME.



 
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Well, here is the analogy of what went on with the "prince of evil" and the "Prince of Peace".
It's like a "short track" of a 70 lap "horse race", and we all are the "spectators".
We all are putting our "money" on the only TWO horses in that race, at "Daniel Land Raceway", and the crazy thing is, in the "track newspaper/bible" (page 9, line 27), both horses are referred to as being "HE" by the "bookies", aka "church-ianity".

Right out of the gate, many of the spectators remained confused, but did KNOW that the odds of winning or losing, was locked in as a 50/50 chance.

However, some of the spectators are not confused.
I hear tell, that just before the "Start", the OWNER of the two horses, was among the crowd, telling to all who would hear, of which "HE" was "highly favored" to bet on (figuratively speaking of course).

Edit: so what was that inside information that some received by the OWNER??
It was this:

John.5[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of... ME.

What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? What does the Word of GOD say? He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: He that cometh from above is above all. John 3:v.31

I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? But you are of the earth, you are earthly and speaks of the earth, course; your sources to interpret the Word of GOD are false and devilish, they are of the god of this satanic world, what you do it is ridiculous and a moking, trying to interpret the Word of GOD by your earthly, animal, even bestial and satanic analogy, you intended to interpret the Word of God through your familiarity with horse racing tracks and with gambling and betting in the jockey's homes, and horse racing. Ridiculous.

Revelation 20
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the Dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him,that he should deceive the nations no more.
 
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The "image of the beast", the UN, won't allow it.
Actually; it is God who won't allow the Jews, with their false religion of Judaism, to build a new Temple.
Every ungodly and Jesus rejecting person will be gone when the Lord sends His fiery wrath upon them. Amos 1 & 2:1-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7, +

THEN; The Christian peoples will gather into all of the holy Land and build a new Temple dedicated to God, as Paul tells us it will be in 2 Thess 2:4
 

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Actually; it is God who won't allow the Jews, with their false religion of Judaism, to build a new Temple.
Every ungodly and Jesus rejecting person will be gone when the Lord sends His fiery wrath upon them. Amos 1 & 2:1-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7, +
I agree! The UN is the physical manifestation.
THEN; The Christian peoples will gather into all of the holy Land and build a new Temple dedicated to God, as Paul tells us it will be in 2 Thess 2:4
I strongly disagree.

Church-ianity has missed the voice of the Lord's Spirit on this altogether. The words "the man of sin" is to be understood in the same way, as we understand "the natural man". In the plural.

According to the Textus Receptus Greek text, the whole chapter of 2 Thes. 2 is to be understood in the [plural]. Unfortunately the KJV was erroneously translated in the singular in 2:3 and 2:8.
But then to make matters worse, the modern day bibles from the Westcott & Hort Greek text, go to the extreme with the singular rendition.

KJV [2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that [the] man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[8] And then shall that [the] Wicked [wicked] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Our physical bodies are and were meant to be the temple for the Lord's indwelling.
Unfortunately for many, Satan knows that as well, and "devours" all that he wills, who are NOT Born Again of the Holy Spirit of God.

Therefore, as faith in God through Jesus wanes in this world, Satan shall increasingly continue to dominate the human realm.
Jesus knew this, when he rhetorically asked in Luke 18:8: "when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith in the earth?"

As time goes on, less and less people will be coming to God through faith, until the issuance of the "MoB" is manifested on a global scale, of which shall effectively separate all the goats from the sheep.
It will be at that time that the Lord shall visibly return in flaming fire, in all His Glory.

There is no singular, one man band person, that "church-ianty" loves to call THE Antichrist, to come!
It is a LIE.
 
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What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? What does the Word of GOD say? He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: He that cometh from above is above all. John 3:v.31

I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? But you are of the earth, you are earthly and speaks of the earth, course; your sources to interpret the Word of GOD are false and devilish, they are of the god of this satanic world, what you do it is ridiculous and a moking, trying to interpret the Word of GOD by your earthly, animal, even bestial and satanic analogy, you intended to interpret the Word of God through your familiarity with horse racing tracks and with gambling and betting in the jockey's homes, and horse racing. Ridiculous.

Revelation 20
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the Dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him,that he should deceive the nations no more.
Jesus Himself fabricated fictious stories called "parables", so that a single truth of His would be delivered.
We, who are Born Again of His Spirit, are ambassors for Christ, in His stead. We can, and shall do the same.

There is a difference between the Word of God and the words of God. Be sure to know which you are worshipping.
The Jews couldn't figure it out then, and still can't to this day.
 
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And another thing the day 9/11 happened instead of that phony Bush Jr. addressing the Nation and saying how Islam is a religion of peace and asking for the American public to donate money to the many impoverished Muslim Children, I would've been sending a couple of F16's to fly over Mecca and decimating it to the ground, Kaaba and all, along with the many pilgrims that attend Mecca, as Payback.

A life for a life, a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye, is what it says in the bible right?

Instead since 9/11happened I've seen Muslim increase here in the US 100 fold, we would've ended WWIII before it even started.

Instead the government allowed more of these people to come into the country many of whom are terrorists.

So yeah my belief is that the jews should take back everything that is theirs Temple Mount, everything they occupy on Israeli ground.
Luke 9[54] And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
[55] But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
[56] For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

If you are a Born Again Christian, you are an ambassador for Christ, in His stead.
 

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Jesus Himself fabricated fictious stories called "parables", so that a single truth of His would be delivered.
You don't know Truth, what you said is fictious. Actually you are confessing your total blindeness.
My Lord JESUS spoke to the Jews in parables because in Him was the Word-the Word is GOD-and He came to fulfill LITERALLY all the Word of GOD-the Word was made flesh, understand? Speaking in parables to the Jews-Matthew 13:v.10to15-, my Lord JESUS was fulfilling LITERALLY Isaiah 6:v.10 - 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. The Word is GOD, and He can do the same with you, probably is doing with you. You are possed by a mocker spirit that calls my Lord JESUS Christ as a storyteller, a maker of fictious stories. Actually you are confessing your blindeness.

We, who are Born Again of His Spirit, are ambassors for Christ, in His stead. We can, and shall do the same.
Well, the king came in to see the guests, and He saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment, and asked: Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Many are called, but few are chosen, For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. The Word is GOD.

There is a difference between the Word of God and the words of God. Be sure to know which you are worshipping.
The Word is GOD. But you know not GOD, you only heard to speak of Him, but know not Him. The Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we must render an account. GET READY.

The Jews couldn't figure out then, and still can't to this day.
And you less than them. They preferred Barabbas over my Lord Jesus Christ, and crucified him. And you, possessed by the same spirit as them, are a mockery who calls my Lord JESUS CHRIST a storyteller, maker of fictious stories. Get ready.
 

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You don't know Truth, what you said is fictious. Actually you are confessing your total blindeness.
My Lord JESUS spoke to the Jews in parables because in Him was the Word-the Word is GOD-and He came to fulfill LITERALLY all the Word of GOD-the Word was made flesh, understand? Speaking in parables to the Jews-Matthew 13:v.10to15-, my Lord JESUS was fulfilling LITERALLY Isaiah 6:v.10 - 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. The Word is GOD, and He can do the same with you, probably is doing with you. You are possed by a mocker spirit that calls my Lord JESUS Christ as a storyteller, a maker of fictious stories. Actually you are confessing your blindeness.


Well, the king came in to see the guests, and He saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment, and asked: Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Many are called, but few are chosen, For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. The Word is GOD.


The Word is GOD. But you know not GOD, you only heard to speak of Him, but know not Him. The Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we must render an account. GET READY.


And you less than them. They preferred Barabbas over my Lord Jesus Christ, and crucified him. And you, possessed by the same spirit as them, are a mockery who calls my Lord JESUS CHRIST a storyteller, maker of fictious stories. Get ready.
Eccl. 9[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
In comparing the story about the rich man and Lazarus, Luke 16:19-31, with Eccl. 9:5, which scripture speaks the truth about the dead?
 

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Luke 9[54] And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
[55] But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
[56] For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

If you are a Born Again Christian, you are an ambassador for Christ, in His stead.
And what of the 3000 plus lives that were lost due to these terrorists, do their deaths not deserve retribution?

It says in the bible a life for a life, a tooth for a tooth an eye for an eye, yet we let them get away with it and allowed more of them to come into our country by the thousands that have committed more crimes, in the US and Europe.

The only thing these people understand is violence, force is met with force, President Bush did nothing except start an unnecessary war with the wrong country, Iraq.

He should've decimated Mecca and flatten the black cube to the ground, all is fair in love and war goes the old saying.

I saw 9/11 happen before my very eyes and all the Muslims cheering in streets of Patterson and Jersey City N.J. when the terrorist attack happened, they were all actually happy.

I'm a soldier of Christ and believe there should've been a price to pay and an example made of these daring terrorists and take out the holiest of holy of their land and turn it into glass.
 

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Eccl. 9[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
In comparing the story about the rich man and Lazarus, Luke 16:19-31, with Eccl. 9:5, which scripture speaks the truth about the dead?

You know only and only the letter of Scriptures, the letter kills, the Spirit gives life, so you are a killer of souls. Your question is a stumbling block for all my brothers in Christ in this Christian website. To what kind of dead do you refer? I ask because even now I'm replying to one dead. I know your works, that you have a name that you live, and are dead completely. This real fact explains crystal clear the sense of what JESUS said: "Let the dead bury their dead".

Ahhh! Your thinking is from a human perspective, not from God's perspective-Matthew 16:v.22-23. Your question is a stumbling block for all my brothers in Christ in this Christian website. By the way, the scribes and Pharisees brought unto JESUS a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, they say unto Him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting JESUS, that they might have to accuse Him.

So, what is the conclusion about your question? The tempter in his question intends and suggest surreptitously that between the two quoted Scriptures only one speaks the Truth, the other no. Your thinking is from a human perspective, not from God's perspective-Matthew 16:v.22-23. The two Scriptures are Truth, not only one.

BY THE WORD OF GOD I TELL YOU? Is there difference between the place where your feet are stepping now and where the rich man's feet in the parable are stepping? No, there isn't any diference.

TO ALL

Psalm 82
1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; He judgeth among the gods.

2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. (Ecl. 9[5] Porque os vivos sabem que hão de morrer; mas os mortos
(the wicked) não sabem coisa alguma, nem tampouco têm eles galardão; pois a memória deles é esquecida.

8 Arise, O God, Judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

Halellujaaaaah!
 

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You know only and only the letter of Scriptures, the letter kills, the Spirit gives life, so you are a killer of souls. Your question is a stumbling block for all my brothers in Christ in this Christian website. To what kind of dead do you refer? I ask because even now I'm replying to one dead. I know your works, that you have a name that you live, and are dead completely. This real fact explains crystal clear the sense of what JESUS said: "Let the dead bury their dead".
I fully understand how people, who are not born again of God's Holy Spirit, they are "dead men walking"- Roman's 8:8-9.
And the same holds true for the living dead, burying the lifeless corpse. In reality both are dead to God. The one who died, and is being buried by the other, only one went to their grave earlier than the other.

However, in this case of my recent post, that is not what is being revealed in Eccl. 9:5 or Luke 16:19-31.
Both scriptures are talking about lifeless corpses
 
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JESUS was not crucified neither in the week 69, because the week 69 ENDED IN 34 BC,
No it didn't. Your timeline is off. Week 70 ended on 34 AD with the stoning of Stephen, and the conversion of Paul so the message would go to the Gentiles
 

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^ cont'd
Both the Richman and Lazarus DIED.
BUT, if you say that Lazarus lived on in Abraham's bosom, well now you will have to explain how Lazarus HAD Eternal Life/existence BEFORE the death and resurrection of Jesus.
As for the Richman, well we know that "he DIED", dead as a door nail, yet he is STILL talking, while there is not a peep from Lazarus, living life large with Abraham, just because he was a beggar??
Is that how people receive the Gift of Eternal Life, or no, because of their status or lot in life?

No, I have a better idea.
No one of this world, is ever born with Eternal life or Eternal existence of any kind. Therefore Eccl. 9:5 is absolutely true, that "the dead know nothing", and Jesus' story for His parable, is fiction.
 
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No it didn't. Your timeline is off. Week 70 ended on 34 AD with the stoning of Stephen, and the conversion of Paul so the message would go to the Gentiles

Regards dates of rebuild of the Temple and its 490 years of prophecy, you may choose any dates below, they are linked to this event , or then to invent fictious others, how many you want.

If you take year 517BC - 483 years, the result is 34 BC.

If you take year 539BC - 483 years the result is 56 BC.

If you take year 517BC. - 490 years the result is 27 BC.

If you take year 539BC. - 490 years the result is 49 BC.

Anyway, all above results end Before Christ's birth. You can invent others dates and manipulate them however you want, but the only thing that matters is the Truth, the choice is yours to work with the lie or the Truth.
 
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No one of this world, is ever born with Eternal life or Eternal existence of any kind. Therefore Eccl. 9:5 is absolutely true, that "the dead know nothing", and Jesus' story for His parable, is fiction.
I agree with this, but the Parable of Lazarus and the rich man, was a homily; a story to reinforce the fact of our mortal life is the only chance we have to gain Eternal life.
 
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Regards dates of rebuild of the Temple and its 490 years of prophecy, you may choose any dates below, they are linked to this event , or then to invent fictious others, how many you want.

If you take year 517BC - 483 years, the result is 34 BC.

If you take year 539BC - 483 years the result is 56 BC.

If you take year 517BC. - 490 years the result is 27 BC.

If you take year 539BC. - 490 years the result is 49 BC.

Anyway, all above results end Before Christ's birth. You can invent others dates and manipulate them however you want, but the only thing that matters is the Truth, the choice is yours to work with the lie or the Truth.
Right before our eyes, God provides His simple formula to us.
So, the questions are, who is who, that is being focussed on by God, and when is when, of the 70th week?

Clue #1: "he" is the Messiah.
John.5[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Clue #2: God's formula for the accounting of time in the 70 weeks.

KJV-Daniel 9
[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem UNTO the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Apply God's simple formula, and All 70 weeks are accounted for, from the going forth of the commandment, to the days of Pentecost.
 
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^ Oh, and you are probably wondering where in that prophecy of the 70 weeks, is the days of Pentecost shown!
Well, it's right there at the end of verse 27.

....and that determined (verse 24) shall be poured [out] upon the desolate, being they who are void of God's indwelling presence.

See Acts 10[45] And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on [upon] the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.