Can people in Heaven know?
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You can die spiritually, but that isn't hell. Hell is for some people after they die here on earth.
Bob Estey
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A lot of people would agree with you. I believe, though, that hell is what we go through when we sin. When we repent, that stops. Check out Matthew 4:17.
Are you in a fiery place that your tongue cannot be quenched. The bible describes hell as just that. A place where you cannot talk to the living. You become a prisoner and cannot leave. Let's not confuse the issue with draw vague conclusions from the bible scriptures. Read
Luke 16:19-31
Bob Estey
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I think the Bible can use symbolism, and our sin can put is in the most awful circustances right here on earth.
To not take the bible literally first causes a lot of confusion. And yes I think sin can cause us a lot of pain and cause others a lot of pain, and suffering, turmoil.
The good news is that The Holy Ghost comforter should be active in us to give us peace and love when we become a new creature. It may leave for a short time if we sin too much, but we can repent and God might forgive us and bring us the comforter again.
@Lambano Hebrews 11 tells of those who were indeed justified by faith in the OT: an example to us and an encouragement for us to keep 'looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith' (Hebrews 12.2) Who endured the cross for His people and is now seated in glory.
This is like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. What did Paul say about such questions (1 Tim 6:4; 2 Tim 2:23; Tit 3:9)?
NOT TRUE! NO ONE HAS GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK DOWN TO EARTH AGAIN AND TELL THEIR STORY!
Paul who was in the third heaven was not allowed to utter what he saw!
Read 2 Corinthians 12:1-4
Bob Estey
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There is some obvious symbolism in the Bible. Here is an example:
Therefore let every one who is godly
offer prayer to thee;
at a time of distress, in the rush of great waters,
they shall not reach him. Psalm 32:6 RSV
Yes Psalms is full of symbolism and the Book of Revelation also. Notice how many interpretations go around on the internet over these things, especially what is in Revelation. I tend to stick to the literal as it is safe and easy to interpret and not get wrong.
WRONG! The sinner loves his sin! Only those that God has chosen from eternity past before the foundation of the world will hurt inside BECAUSE he knows he sinned against God.
Yes evil loves sin and gets pleasure from it. Good learns to hate the master of sin and the sin itself. Mathew 6:24
Agreed. But unfortunately, Matthew 6:24 speaks about the mammon of unrighteousness and is not a reference to the subject at hand.
Not sure what you mean, but if you're implying that the devil is the master if evil and sin, then that is incorrect doctrine. The devil is subject o evil and sin just like every other creature. Sin is the master that was implied in that scripture.
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Bob Estey
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You don't think that we suffer as a result of our sin, right here in this lifetime?
Bob Estey
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