Christ is the end of the law.

BreadOfLife · Jan 22, 2022

Behold said:
I'm always honest.

Let me show you..
I'll prove it.

The Cult of Mary, has you programmed like a puppet to only try to recruit real believers into the "cult of Mary".
The issue is, when you as a deliberately offensive personality online, can only offend everyone by your ignorant arrogance, there is no chance that your programmed preaching that only includes these Topics listed below, is ever going to pull anyone into your "cult of Mary".

1. Water
2. Mary
3. Pope
4. Peter
5. Communion
6. Catholic Heresy Theology

For starters – you throw around the word, “Cult” as if you actually knew what it meant – which you apparently, don’t.

I guess I might be able to chalk up your comments to mere ignorance – but I have explained this to you before – so you have entered into the realm of dishonesty and deceit and can no longer claim ignorance on this subject.

As I educated you in one of our earlier discussions, the term “Cult of Mary” is a theological term which simply refers to a certain devotion and has nothing to do with “worship”. Ignorant people like yourself don’t understand the many nuances of different languages. You see – sometimes a word has MORE than one meaning.
Here are a few examples:
Air
Club
Flag
Mug
Scrap
Litter
Noodle
Long
And so on . . .

There are HUNDRED of words in the English language alone that have multiple meanings – but a person who is ignorant of language like yourself wouldn’t know that.

Your constant insistence that Catholics believe that we are saved BY the water in Baptism is another lie of yours that I have corrected you on. I challenged you to show me this idiotic claim from the Catechism – and you FFAILED, as usual because you’d rather stick to the LIE than to be exposed for it.

So, you can fool many of your fellow Catholic-haters on this forum – but God won’t let you get away with violating His Commandment (Exod. 20:16) unless you repent.

Good luck with that . .

Behold · Jan 22, 2022

BreadOfLife said:
For starters – you throw around the word, “Cult” .

"""The Council of Ephesus in 431 sanctioned the CULT of the Virgin as Mother of God; the dissemination of images of the Virgin and Child, which came to embody church doctrine, soon followed.""""""

This is your cult.
Do a little (honest) research and find out who controls your mind and your destiny.
Its not a pretty picture.... its not going to be a happy ending if you can't figure this out that im showing you.
Believe it.

Reggie Belafonte · Jan 22, 2022

Behold said:
Jesus hung on the Cross.
So, you are hung up in your crazy theology that tries to separate Jesus from The Cross

No that's you !
Jesus is on the Cross ! that's the real issue here that I am on about.
You must have Jesus on the Cross or the Cross is nothing.
I do not respect the cross that people have, because it means nothing ? I respecting Jesus that is on the Cross, not the cross, the cross has no power.
I see so many people who have a cross dangling around their neck ? and I ask about it and many say, it's just decoration ?
Now what if that Cross has Jesus on it ? can they say it's just decoration ?
Now as to the cross dangling from ones neck that is decoration, what can I say ? Nothing ! but what if such a Cross has Jesus on it ? what can I say ? well I can point out that such is not decoration, but that such has real meaning. because it's depicting My Lord and Saviour ? on a key point ! and such is not decoration. it's symbolic !

BreadOfLife · Jan 22, 2022

Behold said:
"""The Council of Ephesus in 431 sanctioned the CULT of the Virgin as Mother of God; the dissemination of images of the Virgin and Child, which came to embody church doctrine, soon followed.""""""

This is your cult.
Do a little (honest) research and find out who controls your mind and your destiny.
Its not a pretty picture.... its not going to be a happy ending if you can't figure this out that im showing you.
Believe it.

Like I saud - you have an extremely moronic understanding of the English lanhuage and of Theological terminology in general.

I suggest you go back to post #41 where I schooled you on the fact thatr many word have different definitions - and I even gave you a sampler list of some of them. I can spoonfeed you with linguistic lessons ALL day - but I can't MALE you smarter.

That's something that you'll have to work on - but I'm NOT holding my breath . . .

Reggie Belafonte · Jan 22, 2022

Behold said:
There is one spiritual work that God accepts, to give you the new birth.
Its the work of doing God's will.
He has one will, that you must obey, that is a >spiritual< work.

Its this...>"the Will of God, is that you BELIEVE on JESUS....whom God sent".

See that ?
That is a inner working of your heart, that God defines as "having faith".
Its not the same as a work of the flesh, or a work of the mind... or a good deed that you do, like, trying to keep the commandments.
Its a spiritual application that occurs in the heart, where faith is formed and found.
God sees this, in you, when you have faith in Christ.
He SEE IT, because this is a spiritual situation, and God is "A" Spirit.
God SEES this faith in you, and accepts it.....and give you this...>"faith is counted as righteousness"......"Justification by faith".

What does that mean....

It means that God, Who lived as Jesus, .. lived a sinless life....Kept the law, and died righteous.
This LIFE< that Jesus lived, is "counted" on your behalf as if YOU did it....= when you give God your faith in Christ which is to "do the will of God".

This is "the gift of salvation", and "the gift of Righteousness".

Ok on the point of, He sees it ? I would say he knows it ? Such ? He knows such ? not to mention God is the Holy Spirit ? not "A" Spirit !
There are many Spirits you know.

As to your point of. God sees this faith in you ? and accepts 'it' ? well faith is not counted in righteous, as O ye of little faith ? remember, such does not cut it ! remember the parable of the Sower ? so yes faith is good but the weeds of this world grow up and kill such in fact, so the Bible points out that you must have the faith that can move mountains ! get it ? That is one who is truly born again, one that can endure over the weeds.
Not to mention God sees nothing in you ? You see in him ? you are not worthy ! anything that you posses is not worthy at all apart from what you abide in him.
Do I boast ? no ! I only abide in him= the true Vine ! The only justification I have is in the Lords Salvation.

Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega ! as far as a truly Born again is concerned. see that ! that's the Truth.
The Gift is Him ! not you.

Behold · Jan 22, 2022

BreadOfLife said:
Like I saud - you have an extremely moronic understanding of the English lanhuage and of Theological terminology in general.

Face the Truth. or face the consequences.

-
"""The Council of Ephesus in 431 sanctioned the CULT of the Virgin as Mother of God; the dissemination of images of the Virgin and Child, which came to embody church doctrine, soon followed.""""""

This is your cult.
Do a little (honest) research and find out who controls your mind and your destiny.
Its not a pretty picture.... its not going to be a happy ending if you can't figure this out that im showing you.
Believe it.

Behold · Jan 22, 2022

Reggie Belafonte said:
Ok on the point of, He sees it ? I would say he knows it ? Such ? He knows such ? not to mention God is the Holy Spirit ? not "A" Spirit !
There are many Spirits you know.
.

God is "A" Spirit........THE HOLY Spirit..........Just that one.

There is also the unholy spirit.....so, if your bible does not distinguish God as "A" Spirit, so that His Holy Spirit is distinguished from other "spirits", including the unholy spirit, then your bible version is a problem for you.

Find this verse.....see what your bible says.....John 4:24

Bob Estey · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
Christ is the end of the law......for what?

""for righteousness....... to every one that believeth."""

See that? Romans 10:4

Thats the final answer.
God accepts no other.

So, if you are trying to keep the commandments and the law, hoping to go to heaven, then you have not submitted your FAITH to the ONE who has ended the law, and become the Law of Righteousness... Himself.
See, if you are religious, then you are submitting yourself to the law and the commandments, as IF they are your Savior.
Some of you have submitted yourself to water baptism, BELIEVING that the water washed your sin away.
And if it did, then the Blood of Jesus disagrees with you, forever. And so will God, forever.

Listen...., """""Christ is the END of the LAW, for everyone who believes..""""

So, the eternal problem is that there is a choice, between BELIEVING that the law and commandments will save you, or, .....you believe that CHRIST will save you, because "Christ is the END OF THE LAW....for EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES"".. In Christ.

Now......Let me show you how you can know what you are actually believing.. as Paul said to ""prove yourself that you be in = THE FAITH.""
And Jude told you to "contend for the REAL Faith"

And you answer this in your own heart,.... as God already knows your answer, as He knows what you believe, and what you think, and why you think it...

Let me show you..

Jesus says to you....>"what are you trusting to get you into heaven".

Now, what are you trusting.....to get you into heaven ????

Are you trusting in water baptism, keeping commandments, dying in a state of grace, keeping the law,... trying to be good....confessing sin... ?????

See all that?
If you are trusting in that religious stuff, then that is your real faith.
See it?
That is all SELF EFFORT....... That is YOU trying to do all that.
God rejects all this now and in eternity.

So, is that.... "what i must do"... faith in Christ?
I promise you it is NOT.
So if you are that person, that means you are trusting in YOURSELF, to do all that to try to get into heaven, as you BELIEVE that if you dont do all that stuff, all those WORKS., you wont go.
So, that PROVES where your faith lives, and it does not trust in Christ.

See, the only answer that God will accept is.....>"Im trusting in CHRIST ALONE, to get me into heaven".

Not, Christ + works. or Christ + water. Or Christ + The Commandments.

Let me show you exactly how to SEE the point, the reality.
All you have to do, is ask yourself.... UP On the Cross, = WHO is up there ??, as HE is THE ONLY Savior.

Now..... notice what is not up there on the Cross...

Mary
Water Baptism
Law
Commandments
Confessing sin
Penance
Dying in a state of Grace
Communion
Trying to be good
You

See all those?
Many who are lost, who are not born again, have faith in those, yet none of those died on the Cross., and only the One who died on the Cross can get you into heaven.
So there is your ANSWER.

Be careful what you trust before GOD.... as you can die and thereby find out too late that you never really trusted in Christ, were never really born again.. as you were too busy worrying about the commandments, and the law, and WATER Baptism and penance, and church membership, instead.

I get nervous when people start talking about the end of the law, or the abolishing of the law. Sin (selfishness) is harmful.

Robert Gwin · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
Yes.
And the born again are "not under the law, but under Grace".

why?

Because "Christ has redeemed the born again from the curse of the Law".

All Christians are under the law of the Christ, but yes those born again have been redeemed.

Behold · Jan 23, 2022

Bob Estey said:
I get nervous when people starting talking about the end of the law, or the abolishing of the law. Sin (selfishness) is harmful.

"Christ is the end of the Law, for righteousness, for everyone who believes in Jesus".

"Christ has redeemed US...(the born again), from the CURSE of the LAW"..

So, if you are trying to be accepted by God based on the LAW that is a Curse .......then you have some a real problem.... that only Christ's Blood can resolve, = only if you are born again.
See, the Law can't give you any righteousness. All the law can do, is show you that you are a SINNER.
This is the ""CURSE of the Law"""........it proves you are UNRIGHTEOUS before God.
So, God came to die as Christ on the Cross = to take that CURSE OFF of you and give you His righteousness, so that you are no longer "under the law, but under GRACE".

BreadOfLife · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
Face the Truth. or face the consequences.
-
"""The Council of Ephesus in 431 sanctioned the CULT of the Virgin as Mother of God; the dissemination of images of the Virgin and Child, which came to embody church doctrine, soon followed.""""""

This is your cult.
Do a little (honest) research and find out who controls your mind and your destiny.
Its not a pretty picture.... its not going to be a happy ending if you can't figure this out that im showing you.
Believe it.

Ge – another idiotic presupposition from a woefully-uneducated Catholic-hater. Well, at the very least - you never disappoint.
Time for another trip out to the Linguistic “woodshed” . . .

The word, “cult” comes from the Latin term, “Cultus” – which means, “Honoring” or “Care”. This is ALSO where we get the word, “Cultivate”, which is the preparation or “Care” that a farmer takes regarding the soil before planting his crop. Giving Honor or Care to the soil.

So, the term, “Cult of the Saints” or “Cult of Mary” simply means Honor or Devotion to those saints.

Now, I can see how a person of extremely limited intelligence might NOT be able to differentiate this definition the relatively modern amd derogatory English term “Cult” – but I’m an optimist . . .

So - before you respond with another one of your trademark LIES - I will warn you in advance that GOD is watchijng . . .
Exod. 20:16
“You shall NOT bear false witness against your neighbor."

Behold · Jan 23, 2022

BreadOfLife said:
Ge – another idiotic presupposition from a woefully-uneducated Catholic-hater. ."

I don't hate Catholics.
"catholics" are just the end result of the "cult of the virgin" or (cult of mary).... brainwashing.
Tho as a person, you are obviously a easily misguided tool.

Otherwise.....and as i said, you are here on the Forum, only to try to antagonize or recruit, for your "cult of the virgin".

Im happy to keep revealing you, as you are, based on your theology and your behavior which speaks for itself, obviously.
Its my pleasure.
Come by anytime you like to redefine for us the word "jerk".

Bob Estey · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
"Christ is the end of the Law, for righteousness, for everyone who believes in Jesus".

"Christ has redeemed US...(the born again), from the CURSE of the LAW"..

So, if you are trying to be accepted by God based on the LAW that is a Curse .......then you have some a real problem.... that only Christ's Blood can resolve, = only if you are born again.
See, the Law can't give you any righteousness. All the law can do, is show you that you are a SINNER.
This is the ""CURSE of the Law"""........it proves you are UNRIGHTEOUS before God.
So, God came to die as Christ on the Cross = to take that CURSE OFF of you and give you His righteousness, so that you are no longer "under the law, but under GRACE".

Like I say, sin (selfishness) is harmful.

BreadOfLife · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
I don't hate Catholics.
"catholics" are just the end result of the "cult of the virgin" or (cult of mary).... brainwashing.
Tho as a person, you are obviously a easily misguided tool.

Otherwise.....and as i said, you are here on the Forum, only to try to antagonize or recruit, for your "cult of the virgin".

Im happy to keep revealing you, as you are, based on your theology and your behavior which speaks for itself, obviously.
Its my pleasure.

Gee - anothe lie.
Hating Catholics is your favorite pastime.

Besides yourblatant dishonesty and woeful ignorance of ALL things Catholic - it's your defining characteristic.

Behold said:

Come by anytime you like to redefine for us the word "jerk"

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Behold said:
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Ahh - resorting to name-calling?
That's the sign of a LOST argument . . .

Behold · Jan 23, 2022

BreadOfLife said:
Gee - anothe lie.
Hating Catholics is your favorite pastime.

Now you are lying, again.

So, as i was saying..
You dont represent yourself on this Forum, as being anything but antagonistic and hateful.
Should we blame the cult of mary, that trained you, or should we just lay the blame at your feet?

You choose.

Ronald Nolette · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
Now you are lying, again.

So, as i was saying..
You dont represent yourself as being anything but antagonistic and hateful.
Should we blame the cult of mary, that trained you, or should we just lay the blame at your feet?

You choose.

He loves to falsely accuse people who are against Romish doctrines of hating the people.

Reggie Belafonte · Jan 23, 2022

Behold said:
God is "A" Spirit........THE HOLY Spirit..........Just that one.

There is also the unholy spirit.....so, if your bible does not distinguish God as "A" Spirit, so that His Holy Spirit is distinguished from other "spirits", including the unholy spirit, then your bible version is a problem for you.

Find this verse.....see what your bible says.....John 4:24

Jesus said that to a woman and he is pointing out to the Father and all in fact.
But you are doing an injustice in quoting such a line out of context. like so many try to play such games.
Not to mention you read down to 26 and it says, I that speak onto thee an he.

BreadOfLife · Jan 24, 2022

Behold said:
Now you are lying, again.

So, as i was saying..
You dont represent yourself on this Forum, as being anything but antagonistic and hateful.
Should we blame the cult of mary, that trained you, or should we just lay the blame at your feet?

You choose.

Not "lying" at all.

Your failure to intelligently respond to the barrage of linguistic and Scriptural evidence I presented is whay torpefo your attacks - and choosing to engage in ad hominm insstead leaves me with NO alternative but to recognize you as just another Catholic-hater.
You are known by your fruits (Matt. 7:16) - and your fruit is rotten. . . .

As I told you before - I am here on a seek and destroy mission. I seek out lies - and destroy them woth the truth.
So, keep ignoring the truth - and I'll keep exposing you in friont of your friends here . . .

theefaith · Jan 24, 2022

Mary
Water Baptism
Law
Commandments
Confessing sin
Penance
Dying in a state of Grace
Communion
Trying to be good
You

But they are in the Bible unlike you’re spiritual “faith alone “ anarchy!

Baptism is in the Old Testament prophecy! Ez 36:25-27

baptism is pre-figured in the preparation for the coming of Christ by John the baptism Jn 1:26

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who I has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!

GerhardEbersoehn · Jan 25, 2022

Behold said:
Christ is the end of the law......for what?

""for righteousness....... to every one that believeth."""

See that? Romans 10:4

Thats the final answer.
God accepts no other.

So, if you are trying to keep the commandments and the law, hoping to go to heaven, then you have not submitted your FAITH to the ONE who has ended the law, and become the Law of Righteousness... Himself.
See, if you are religious, then you are submitting yourself to the law and the commandments, as IF they are your Savior.
Some of you have submitted yourself to water baptism, BELIEVING that the water washed your sin away.
And if it did, then the Blood of Jesus disagrees with you, forever. And so will God, forever.

Listen...., """""Christ is the END of the LAW, for everyone who believes..""""

So, the eternal problem is that there is a choice, between BELIEVING that the law and commandments will save you, or, .....you believe that CHRIST will save you, because "Christ is the END OF THE LAW....for EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES"".. In Christ.

Now......Let me show you how you can know what you are actually believing.. as Paul said to ""prove yourself that you be in = THE FAITH.""
And Jude told you to "contend for the REAL Faith"

And you answer this in your own heart,.... as God already knows your answer, as He knows what you believe, and what you think, and why you think it...

Let me show you..

Jesus says to you....>"what are you trusting to get you into heaven".

Now, what are you trusting.....to get you into heaven ????

Are you trusting in water baptism, keeping commandments, dying in a state of grace, keeping the law,... trying to be good....confessing sin... ?????

See all that?
If you are trusting in that religious stuff, then that is your real faith.
See it?
That is all SELF EFFORT....... That is YOU trying to do all that.
God rejects all this now and in eternity.

So, is that.... "what i must do"... faith in Christ?
I promise you it is NOT.
So if you are that person, that means you are trusting in YOURSELF, to do all that to try to get into heaven, as you BELIEVE that if you dont do all that stuff, all those WORKS., you wont go.
So, that PROVES where your faith lives, and it does not trust in Christ.

See, the only answer that God will accept is.....>"Im trusting in CHRIST ALONE, to get me into heaven".

Not, Christ + works. or Christ + water. Or Christ + The Commandments.

Let me show you exactly how to SEE the point, the reality.
All you have to do, is ask yourself.... UP On the Cross, = WHO is up there ??, as HE is THE ONLY Savior.

Now..... notice what is not up there on the Cross...

Mary
Water Baptism
Law
Commandments
Confessing sin
Penance
Dying in a state of Grace
Communion
Trying to be good
You

See all those?
Many who are lost, who are not born again, have faith in those, yet none of those died on the Cross., and only the One who died on the Cross can get you into heaven.
So there is your ANSWER.

Be careful what you trust before GOD.... as you can die and thereby find out too late that you never really trusted in Christ, were never really born again.. as you were too busy worrying about the commandments, and the law, and WATER Baptism and penance, and church membership, instead.

All foul air.

Christ is the end of the law.

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