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When i was here last year, i wrote over 140 Threads.
Some are quite detailed, and talk about all these Disciplehsip issues you are thinking about, and how to see them correctly, and overcome your "sin", based on "walking in the Spirit".
If you have time....i think my Threads are still around.
If you can't find them there, then find me as Kidron, or Bethel, on other forums.
Im everywhere, online.

So.....lets take a look.

"sin"

Ok, this is really just a deed, a "work of the flesh", you do with your body or mind, that is unholy because its being viewed by a Holy God as unholy.
So, its a activity, mental or literally, that is evaluated by God, as "sin" or "transgression".

Now, here is a verse.....Romans 4:8....It says that God does not charge YOU with your sin..
That is if you are born again, and not some water cult person, who thinks that water has washed your sin away.
So, if you are not that heretic, and you are born again, then here is your sin..

= "Jesus became sin".... And the born again are "made righteous".....the born again have received from God : "the gift of Righteousness".
The born again exist, spiritually, (you are a spirit that lives in a body) * you are not the body*......you just live in it till it dies, and then your Spirit goes to Heaven or Hell. Thats the eternal game plan.
So, once you are born again SPIRITUALLY.....then the rules have changed, vs, the rule you were UNDER, when you were an unbeliever.
As then, you were "Under the Law" and the law is a curse, as it defines you as a sinner and judges you as GUILTY before God Almighty.

"Jesus has (freed) redeemed us from the CURSE OF THE LAW"....that was judging you a SINNER.

Now, if you are born again, you are not "under the law, you are UNDER GRACE" and there is not law found there, only GRACE.

Here are the New Rules....>"Jesus became sin", and the born again have become : "the righteousness of God, In Christ"., and this is to be UNDER GRACE and not "under the law".

Here is how that looks on earth.....>"""As Jesus IS.....so ARE....the Born Again.... ON...THIS... EARTH"

See that?
That is also this....>the born again are "seated in Heavenly Places IN Christ"..

See that?

And why is all that true?
Its because, the born again, "have been translated, from darkness TO LIGHT", by being born again, and are now "ONE with GOD". "in Christ".

What does that mean ?
It means that the born again have a body on earth, but we exit Spiritually BORN AGAIN = IN GOD, IN CHRIST, IN HEAVEN, IN The Kingdom of God, having been...Spiritually BORN AGAIN = "translated into it".

See all that?

You have to see all that......you have to SEE ALL THAT, and understand that this is who you have become....
And you can't see it, till a Teacher teaches you.
This is why God calls some to "teach", and some to Preach, and some to evangelize........etc.

And once you SEE IT, once you get the revelation..... then you have taken your first class in the spiritual school of "working out your salvation".....as to work it out, is to understand > by revelation....exactly who you have become, as a "heir of God", and a "joint heir with Christ" = BORN AGAIN.

How many believers learn this about their Spiritual born again selves?
Id say about ...... very few.
And why is that?
Its because we are in the end times, and its nearly impossible to be taught Pauline Theology in a church or find it online, or even in a Christian Bookstore......as im teaching.

Christianity, has become in these end times.....disconnected from the NT and the Grace of God, as "doctrine"..., to such a degree that when you hear real preaching and teaching on it, ... most believers can't even relate to it, and want to argue their law and commandment keeping, and their self righteousness.
 

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Explain these

  1. 1 Corinthians 6:9
    Know ye not that the unrighteous shall notinherit the kingdom of God? Be notdeceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

  2. Galatians 5:21
    Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shallnot inherit the kingdom of God.
 

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Explain these

  1. 1 Corinthians 6:9
    Know ye not that the unrighteous shall notinherit the kingdom of God? Be notdeceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,Galatians 5:21
  2. Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shallnot inherit the kingdom of God.


Thank you for the opportunity.
Im happy to explain your verses.

1.) The "unrighteous". is how your verse defines the context of the verse..... So the "unrighteous"....This is all unbelievers.....its all the Christ rejectors.....as they are not "made righteous" by the blood of Jesus. They are not the "righteousness of God in Christ'...They have not received "thte Gift of Righteousness"...
They are still "in their sin"..(damned)...they are not Born again...they are this....... John 3:36.

2.) Notice the last part of your verse...>"shall not inherit the Kingdom of God"... Now, what is the KOG?

Its this...>"Translated from darkness TO Light."" See that LIGHT?
That is : Jesus is the LIGHT of the World, and the born again are Children of THE LIGHT.

Its this... > Romans 14....."""""For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost""""

Its this... > Jesus said.....Luke 17..."the Kingdom of God is WITHIN you".

See that?
"within you".

So, how can that be? Its because the KOG is a Spiritual Kingdom, where God exists,= that a person who comes to Faith in Christ.....now exists within..and it exist within the born again.
In other words......when you are BORN AGAIN, you enter the Kingdom of God, which is a Spiritual Kingdom., and it enters you.
You are now the "Temple of the Holy Spirit", and that is where the Kingdom of God exists.
You have become.... as born again..>"ONE with God".....>"in Christ".......and where are they?
The born again, now exist on earth in body, yet Spiritually BORN AGAIN ... = are "seated in heavenly Places in Christ'".
The Born again, are become this..>"As Jesus is.....so are the born again.......in THIS world"

So, your verse says that these sinning unbelievers wont inherit the KOG......however the Born again, dont need need to "inherit" it, as the born again are already in it, as born again.
 

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Thank you for the opportunity.
Im happy to explain your verses.

1.) The "unrighteous". is how your verse defines the context of the verse..... So the "unrighteous"....This is all unbelievers.....its all the Christ rejectors.....as they are not "made righteous" by the blood of Jesus. They are not the "righteousness of God in Christ'...They have not received "thte Gift of Righteousness"...
They are still "in their sin"..(damned)...they are not Born again...they are this....... John 3:36.

2.) Notice the last part of your verse...>"shall not inherit the Kingdom of God"... Now, what is the KOG?

Its this...>"Translated from darkness TO Light."" See that LIGHT?
That is : Jesus is the LIGHT of the World, and the born again are Children of THE LIGHT.

Its this... > Romans 14....."""""For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost""""

Its this... > Jesus said.....Luke 17..."the Kingdom of God is WITHIN you".

See that?
"within you".

So, how can that be? Its because the KOG is a Spiritual Kingdom, where God exists,= that a person who comes to Faith in Christ.....now exists within..and it exist within the born again.
In other words......when you are BORN AGAIN, you enter the Kingdom of God, which is a Spiritual Kingdom., and it enters you.
You are now the "Temple of the Holy Spirit", and that is where the Kingdom of God exists.
You have become.... as born again..>"ONE with God".....>"in Christ".......and where are they?
The born again, now exist on earth in body, yet Spiritually BORN AGAIN ... = are "seated in heavenly Places in Christ'".
The Born again, are become this..>"As Jesus is.....so are the born again.......in THIS world"

So, your verse says that these sinning unbelievers wont inherit the KOG......however the Born again, dont need need to "inherit" it, as the born again are already in it, as born again.

Paul is teaching Bible believing born again Christian here!
 

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Paul is teaching Bible believing born again Christian here!

Yes.

And in the NT, there were some confused "Christians'.....and most of them are found in the Corinthian Church.
These are the NT carnal babies, who worry about "gifts".
Its the same today...the most carnal christians obsess on "gifts"....gifts of the Spirit.....usually some wrong idea about "tongues'.
Babies love GIFTS, and Spiritual babies are the same.

Paul was so aggravated with them, most of the time.
Once he was somewhat confounded and told them...>"""Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit""" as they had no idea.
 

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Yes.

And in the NT, there were some confused "Christians'.....and most of them are found in the Corinthian Church.
These are the NT carnal babies, who worry about "gifts".
Its the same today...the most carnal christians obsess on "gifts"....gifts of the Spirit.....usually some wrong idea about "tongues'.
Babies love GIFTS, and Spiritual babies are the same.

Paul was so aggravated with them, most of the time.
Once he was somewhat confounded and told them...>"""Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit""" as they had no idea.

scince when is drunkenness a gift?

nice try
 

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where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.



where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?
 

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When i was here last year, i wrote over 140 Threads.
Some are quite detailed, and talk about all these Disciplehsip issues you are thinking about, and how to see them correctly, and overcome your "sin", based on "walking in the Spirit".
If you have time....i think my Threads are still around.
If you can't find them there, then find me as Kidron, or Bethel, on other forums.
Im everywhere, online.

So.....lets take a look.

"sin"

Ok, this is really just a deed, a "work of the flesh", you do with your body or mind, that is unholy because its being viewed by a Holy God as unholy.
So, its a activity, mental or literally, that is evaluated by God, as "sin" or "transgression".

Now, here is a verse.....Romans 4:8....It says that God does not charge YOU with your sin..
That is if you are born again, and not some water cult person, who thinks that water has washed your sin away.
So, if you are not that heretic, and you are born again, then here is your sin..

= "Jesus became sin".... And the born again are "made righteous".....the born again have received from God : "the gift of Righteousness".
The born again exist, spiritually, (you are a spirit that lives in a body) * you are not the body*......you just live in it till it dies, and then your Spirit goes to Heaven or Hell. Thats the eternal game plan.
So, once you are born again SPIRITUALLY.....then the rules have changed, vs, the rule you were UNDER, when you were an unbeliever.
As then, you were "Under the Law" and the law is a curse, as it defines you as a sinner and judges you as GUILTY before God Almighty.

"Jesus has (freed) redeemed us from the CURSE OF THE LAW"....that was judging you a SINNER.

Now, if you are born again, you are not "under the law, you are UNDER GRACE" and there is not law found there, only GRACE.

Here are the New Rules....>"Jesus became sin", and the born again have become : "the righteousness of God, In Christ"., and this is to be UNDER GRACE and not "under the law".

Here is how that looks on earth.....>"""As Jesus IS.....so ARE....the Born Again.... ON...THIS... EARTH"

See that?
That is also this....>the born again are "seated in Heavenly Places IN Christ"..

See that?

And why is all that true?
Its because, the born again, "have been translated, from darkness TO LIGHT", by being born again, and are now "ONE with GOD". "in Christ".

What does that mean ?
It means that the born again have a body on earth, but we exit Spiritually BORN AGAIN = IN GOD, IN CHRIST, IN HEAVEN, IN The Kingdom of God, having been...Spiritually BORN AGAIN = "translated into it".

See all that?

You have to see all that......you have to SEE ALL THAT, and understand that this is who you have become....
And you can't see it, till a Teacher teaches you.
This is why God calls some to "teach", and some to Preach, and some to evangelize........etc.

And once you SEE IT, once you get the revelation..... then you have taken your first class in the spiritual school of "working out your salvation".....as to work it out, is to understand > by revelation....exactly who you have become, as a "heir of God", and a "joint heir with Christ" = BORN AGAIN.

How many believers learn this about their Spiritual born again selves?
Id say about ...... very few.
And why is that?
Its because we are in the end times, and its nearly impossible to be taught Pauline Theology in a church or find it online, or even in a Christian Bookstore......as im teaching.

Christianity, has become in these end times.....disconnected from the NT and the Grace of God, as "doctrine"..., to such a degree that when you hear real preaching and teaching on it, ... most believers can't even relate to it, and want to argue their law and commandment keeping, and their self righteousness.

Simply put sin means to miss the mark. In actual practice it is a violation of God's laws.
 

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scince when is drunkenness a gift?

nice try


Im always willing to dialog with someone here, or anywhere.
But, i do need one thing from you.. I need you to write sentences that make sense, so that i can respond.
If you want to explain what you are talking about, and how it related to my post.......then give it a try.
 

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When i was here last year, i wrote over 140 Threads.
Some are quite detailed, and talk about all these Disciplehsip issues you are thinking about, and how to see them correctly, and overcome your "sin", based on "walking in the Spirit".
If you have time....i think my Threads are still around.
If you can't find them there, then find me as Kidron, or Bethel, on other forums.
Im everywhere, online.
I see you are very proud of your threads even advertising their number....hmmmm. I wonder if that is classified as a sin.
How is it that advising others is easier than taking the advice oneself?
 

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scince when is drunkenness a gift?

nice try
What is it that appears to people to be drunkeness, but is not?

"For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:" Acts 2:15-17
 

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I see you are very proud of your threads even advertising their number....hmmmm. I wonder if that is classified as a sin.
How is it that advising others is easier than taking the advice oneself?

Am i proud of my Threads?

I think of them like this.... Galatians 6:4
 

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Amen to this sir, but do not be fooled into thinking that Christians do not have laws. Citizens of the Kingdom have laws like any other government.

The only Law God offers His Children is : The Gift of Righteousness. "The Grace of God".

Listen, the Law and Commandments, are not made for God and Heaven .
THey are made for unrighteousness sinners on EARTH, so that they are led by these, to a solution.
God is the Solution, as Christ on the Cross.

See, "the simplicity that is in Christ".....is very simple.

We are not righteous. The end.

And unless you are righteous, you can't live where God lives...

So, God came down here as Christ on the Cross to solve our unrighteousness FOR US......= "The Gift of Righteousness".

God gives us, HIS very righteousness......exactly as ADAM had it, before Adam fell into transgression/rebellion.
Before Adam did this, He had God's very Righteousness.
So, JESUS< who is GOD....came here, as The 2nd ADAM, and provides to us, HIS righteousness that HE lived.... and this is a GIFT that God gives to YOU and ME< if we will BELIEVE......as "faith is counted as righteousness"....>"justification BY Faith".

You give God your FAITH in Christ, and Gives YOU : "The righteousness of God, in Christ".
See that GIFT?
You can't earn that by being good., as God ONLY gives it to you for FREE, based on "all that call on the name of Jesus SHALL. BE SAVED"

Or as Jesus says..>>"" ALL ALL ALL... that believe in Me, .. I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERNAL LIFE....and they shall NEVER PERISH".

How does He do that?
Well, Jesus Himself IS Eternal Life. "I am the resurrection AND THE LIFE"...."I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE".... John 14:6

So, Jesus who is THE LIFE ETERNAL, joins His Holy Spirit to your spirit, and this is to become BORN AGAIN.

This is Salvation....and Eternal LIFE. "In Christ". as becoming ..'"ONE with GOD".

= "as Christ IS.....so are the BORN AGAIN......>In....THIS....WORLD".

and they are.........also......>"Seated in Heavenly Places.....IN CHRIST".


= BORN AGAIN
 

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And the law of love!

baptismal regeneration is being born again

never faith alone

must confess into salvation
And salvation is nearer than when you first believed
 

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never faith alone


The "cult of mary" teaches that water saves you.......exactly as you are stating.

Jesus said "all that believe in me, i give unto you eternal life, and you shall never perish".

Paul wrote.....>"The will of God is that you BELIEVE on Jesus, whom God sent".

Paul wrote...>"faith is counted as righteousness"......>"Justification by faith".

Paul wrote..>"Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as rightousness"

Paul wrote..."All that call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

Paul wrote..>>"Christ sent me not to water Baptize"..

So, theefaith........ Jesus, Paul, and God, say that baptismal regeneration is a lie of the devil, created by a cult that he created.

I agree with them., and so should you.
 

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The "cult of mary" teaches that water saves you.......exactly as you are stating.

Jesus said "all that believe in me, i give unto you eternal life, and you shall never perish".

Paul wrote.....>"The will of God is that you BELIEVE on Jesus, whom God sent".

Paul wrote...>"faith is counted as righteousness"......>"Justification by faith".

Paul wrote..>"Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as rightousness"

Paul wrote..."All that call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

Paul wrote..>>"Christ sent me not to water Baptize"..

So, theefaith........ Jesus, Paul, and God, say that baptismal regeneration is a lie of the devil, created by a cult that he created.

I agree with them., and so should you.

bearing false witness again

I never said water saves, salvation is by grace

And you can explain to Jesus you’re attacking His mother!
 

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The "cult of mary" teaches that water saves you.......exactly as you are stating.

Jesus said "all that believe in me, i give unto you eternal life, and you shall never perish".

Paul wrote.....>"The will of God is that you BELIEVE on Jesus, whom God sent".

Paul wrote...>"faith is counted as righteousness"......>"Justification by faith".

Paul wrote..>"Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as rightousness"

Paul wrote..."All that call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

Paul wrote..>>"Christ sent me not to water Baptize"..

So, theefaith........ Jesus, Paul, and God, say that baptismal regeneration is a lie of the devil, created by a cult that he created.

I agree with them., and so should you.

if Jesus is you’re brother, Mary must be youre mother!

Behold thy mother!

What does Behold in scripture mean?

A marvelous thing!
A miraculous action!
A wonder!
An awe inspiring declaration!

Behold thy mother!

John 19:26-27
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith has he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Jesus is not asking John to care for His mother, if so He would have said so, he is not even speaking to John, scripture says He is addressing the disciple, therefore it applies to all disciples.

Jesus is making Mary spiritual mother to all disciples! And all disciples take Her into thier home, And if the apostle John needs a spiritual mother so do we!

What is the family of God without a mother? The mother is the heart of the family! Jesus said I will not leave you orphans! Jn 14:18 He gave Mary to be the mother of one disciple then He does so for all disciples!

As eve was the mother of all the living in the first creation, gen 3:20 so Mary is the mother of all those who live in Christ and the new creation! Behold, I make all things new!

Rev 12:17 our spiritual mother!

Rachel is spiritual mother of Israel!
A type of Mary as spiritual mother of Christians!

The 12 sons of Jacob have 4 biological mothers, but Rachel is the spiritual mother of all Israel!

Matt 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are no more.
 

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The only Law God offers His Children is : The Gift of Righteousness. "The Grace of God".

Listen, the Law and Commandments, are not made for God and Heaven .
THey are made for unrighteousness sinners on EARTH, so that they are led by these, to a solution.
God is the Solution, as Christ on the Cross.

See, "the simplicity that is in Christ".....is very simple.

We are not righteous. The end.

And unless you are righteous, you can't live where God lives...

So, God came down here as Christ on the Cross to solve our unrighteousness FOR US......= "The Gift of Righteousness".

God gives us, HIS very righteousness......exactly as ADAM had it, before Adam fell into transgression/rebellion.
Before Adam did this, He had God's very Righteousness.
So, JESUS< who is GOD....came here, as The 2nd ADAM, and provides to us, HIS righteousness that HE lived.... and this is a GIFT that God gives to YOU and ME< if we will BELIEVE......as "faith is counted as righteousness"....>"justification BY Faith".

You give God your FAITH in Christ, and Gives YOU : "The righteousness of God, in Christ".
See that GIFT?
You can't earn that by being good., as God ONLY gives it to you for FREE, based on "all that call on the name of Jesus SHALL. BE SAVED"

Or as Jesus says..>>"" ALL ALL ALL... that believe in Me, .. I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERNAL LIFE....and they shall NEVER PERISH".

How does He do that?
Well, Jesus Himself IS Eternal Life. "I am the resurrection AND THE LIFE"...."I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE".... John 14:6

So, Jesus who is THE LIFE ETERNAL, joins His Holy Spirit to your spirit, and this is to become BORN AGAIN.

This is Salvation....and Eternal LIFE. "In Christ". as becoming ..'"ONE with GOD".

= "as Christ IS.....so are the BORN AGAIN......>In....THIS....WORLD".

and they are.........also......>"Seated in Heavenly Places.....IN CHRIST".


= BORN AGAIN

Some of the laws of the Christ Behold. All of the 10 commandments with the exception of the sabbath observation; Mat 28:19,20; Heb 10:24,25; 1 Jn 3:17,18; Col 3:12. There are really many but that is just a few of the laws we Christians must observe.