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EZEKIEL’S TEMPLE AND JOHN’S HEAVENLY CITY COMPARED.

Compare if you will, the striking correspondences between what Ezekiel and the Apostle John were each shown while in the Spirit.

Ezekiel saw a high mountain: Ezek. 40:1, 2. John saw a high mountain: Rev. 21:10.

Ezekiel said there was glory abiding: 43:2-5. 47:1-12. John saw Glory – with no night there (The Lamb is its Light). Rev 21:11,25. 22:5.

Ezekiel saw water flowing from the Temple: 47:1 John saw a pure river flowing from the Throne: 22:1

Ezekiel saw trees had healing properties: 47:12. John saw the trees were for the healing of the nations (ie., gentiles): 22:2.

Ezekiel said the trees bore fruit monthly: 48:20, 35. John also said the trees bore fruit monthly: 22:2.

Ezekiel described the Holy City in four-square dimensions: 48:30 John described the Holy City in Cubic dimensions: 21:16

Ezekiel said the city had 12 gates: 48:35. John said the city had 12 gates: 21:12, 21.

Ezekiel gave the name of its God as ‘Jehovah Shammah’ (is present) 43:7. John described it as being God tabernacling with men. 21:3. (John 1:14)

Ezekiel said the city was for the 12 tribes: 43:4-7. 48:1. John said the city was for the (pan-ethnic) saints of God. 21:24-27.

Are these striking correspondences not significant? Even more amazingly John’s Holy City was a BRIDE!

Rev 21:1-3. “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. (Note time location) also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.”

In fact John’s whole revelation of the Holy City was prefaced by the angel saying to him; “Come, I will show you The Bride, the Lamb's wife” Rev. 21:9.

Paul said to the Gentile Corinthian saints; “I have betrothed you to one husband that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” And to the Ephesians’ saints; “Just as Christ also loved the church, and gave Himself for her.”

Are we able to say then that the vision Ezekiel and John were shown, was of the BRIDE, in the New Heaven and New Earth, joined in glory to the LAMB, her HUSBAND, CHRIST.

It is of note that John’s City HAD NO TEMPLE. This fact is most remarkable to a JEW. The Temple of this City is a PERSON! The Church’s SPOUSE!

Rev 21:22-24. “But I saw NO temple in it, - for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB is its Temple. The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it, the LAMB is its light. And the nations (ethnos) of those who are saved, shall walk in its (His!) light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honour into it.”

Surely both Ezekiel and John had the same vision, but each from their position in the progressive revelatory program of God, and thus John, more fully than Ezekiel. This shows clearly the error of attempting to interpret the Old Testament without reference to the fuller light of the New Testament, thereby wrongly applying a literalness which occasions denial of the New Testament’s greater light, and so the applying of Ezekiel’s vision to the wrong nation under God, OT Israel, instead of to the pan-ethnic ‘holy nation’ of the Gospel-redeemed saints.

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Compare if you will, the striking correspondences between what Ezekiel and the Apostle John were each shown while in the Spirit.
I do not see these two prophesies are telling of the same thing.
Ezekiel's Temple will be built before Jesus Returns and will remain the focal point for the Millennium. As Zechariah 14:16-21 describes.
The New Jerusalem comes to the earth after the Millennium and there won't be a Temple in it, for Eternity. Rev 21:22

I have read your two previous posts. I see no point in my attempting to correct your beliefs.
FYI, I am not a Jew and I reject the Hebrew Roots idea.
 

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Zechariah 4:1-21 explained from a Hebrew language and understanding view, not from a futurist modern man view. There will be no millennial temple established as an abomination to Christ. When the LORD will have his day, completely, it is realized in the New Jerusalem.

Verses 1-21
The Maccabean Wars started in second to the late first century before Christ, when the Seleucids, their growing empire conquered Judah and finally captured the city of Jerusalem. They plundered it and its temple. They killed many thousands of people and took many women and children captive.

The expression 'all the nations' used in this scripture, denotes the various forces from several nations as part of the Seleucidan Empire gathered to fight against Judah and Jerusalem. The word 'all' does not mean that every nation or tribe that existed on the planet at that time. It meant those selected tribes of the Seleucidan Empire - the Greek, Persians, Babylonians, Arabs, Armenians, ancient Kurds, Syrians, even some of the 'lost' tribes of Israel, and others known to Zechariah and the people, geographically surrounding them from the North and Eastern borders at that time.

Verse 4 predicts that the Mount of Olives would split in two from East and to the West. The Mount is actually literally split into two, from East to the West since that time, the time of Christ on the earth, and today.

Zechariah 14:4 pointed to a dual prophecy: The actual splitting of the Mount of Olives as I've already mentioned during the times of the Maccabean Was and also when Christ died on the Cross.

Some if not many scholars believe that Christ was crucified on the mount of Olives directly in line of sight with the east gate of the Temple in Jerusalem opposite of the mount of Olives on Mount Zion. So when Christ gave up his own spirit, the veil of the Temple was split as recorded in Matt 27:51. Even if the place of death was not exactly on this Mount, the earthquake was sufficiently extensive to further divide the Mount of Olives across the East West direction.

Now for verses 6-7 These are apparently also historical facts fulfilled in the miracle of Hanukah. This is where the holiday of Hanukah originated.

According to the Babylonian Talmud, after some Judahites rededicated the Temple, they discovered that they only had enough oil to keep the menorah lit for one day. However, the oil lasted eight days giving the Jews time to have new oil pressed out and properly prepared. The fact that verse 7 predicts light in the evening seems to point to the miracle of Hanukah, the Festival of Lights.

During these Maccabean Wars many enemies of the Judahites were burned alive.

Verses 8-9: This related to Zechariah 13:1 Christ will cleanse from sin. Christ will become the only true King of the earth henceforth.

Verse 11: Jerusalem will always be inhabited henceforth. A triple prophecy of three events: the physical destruction and plundering of Jerusalem during the 1st Century BC and when it was utterly destroyed by 70AD, by the Roman army. And then later inhabited, or occupied, although never by the ethnic house of Israel anymore.

The New Jerusalem since Christ as King is scheduled to be inhabited by the Body of Christ when the King returns to bring them home. The Body of the King are its true inhabitants, the true Israel of the New Jerusalem. They will never leave. (Hebrews 12:22-23, Revelation Chapters 22 and 23)

Verse 12 addresses at least Antiochus Epiphanies, who died from a disease that caused his flesh to rot off.

Verse 14: the Maccabees (Machabees) or Judahite rebels seized vast amounts of plunder.

Verses 16-19: the Judahites are called to hold to the Feast of Tabernacles. And a new Feast of Tabernacles was instituted during the Maccabean Wars to celebrate the miracle that occurred at the rededication of the Temple. Called the Feast of Tabernacles in the Book of Maccabees, and better known as the holiday today as Hanukah. The Judahites in Egypt were to continue to celebrate this new Feast of Tabernacles.

Verse 20: More symbols and imagery. It represents the complete cessation of literal and physical Temple rituals and then replaced by the spiritual temple in every believer.

This was temporarily stops during the times of the Maccabees, and then signaled it final cessation when Christ died on the Cross and the Temple veil was ripped apart. And then finally destroyed the Temple and its activities by the Roman armies in 70 AD. Since Pentecost, believers are the Temple and the new ‘rituals’ to God Almighty.

Verse 21: This is another triple prophecy. The first is when Christ came to demonstrate that the house of the Lord is not a marketplace where he overturned the tables in the courtyard or outer enclosure to the Temple (Matt 21:12-13). And second, it refers to the destruction of the Temple by 70 AD. And third, it references the spirits of the believers as the new temple of God in the New Jerusalem.

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Verse 4 predicts that the Mount of Olives would split in two from East and to the West. The Mount is actually literally split into two, from East to the West since that time, the time of Christ on the earth, and today.
For one who claims using the OT is wrong, you have the whole NT bowing down to your interpretation of the OT. Neither the OT nor the NT have been fulfilled in regards to the Second Coming. And the first coming did not complete the OT prophecy. Jesus came as Messiah/Christ/Anointed One. Jesus has yet to return as Prince/King/Iron Rod Rule. You are placing too much emphasis on OT Scripture to symbolize the first century was the complete fulfillment of the OT. The NT clearly points out all prophecy will be complete at the Second Coming, not at the first coming.
 
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For one who claims using the OT is wrong, you have the whole NT bowing down to your interpretation of the OT. Neither the OT nor the NT have been fulfilled in regards to the Second Coming. And the first coming did not complete the OT prophecy. Jesus came as Messiah/Christ/Anointed One. Jesus has yet to return as Prince/King/Iron Rod Rule. You are placing too much emphasis on OT Scripture to symbolize the first century was the complete fulfillment of the OT. The NT clearly points out all prophecy will be complete at the Second Coming, not at the first coming.
Why do you any other want to believe that Christ will return with a grand finale and a display of some physical superiority that will literally shake the earth? It is best to keep these imaginations in books and movies.
Christ is King today and rules with peace and righteousness, and his judgement is being made everyday as an 'iron-rod' with no waivers or double standards on this earth until his Father tells him to execute this judgment. And not with more violence and prowess as a sinful boastful proud man. We've had enough of these men already and there will be a few more until that glorious 'day' of the Lord arrives.

Let me answer your other query: The reason why you have to interpret some prophecies and not, solely from the OT, is because the NT does not cover that particular subject either explicitly or only vaguely and implicitly. Where it does cover the subject clearly however, then the NT is always the tie-breaker. And yes there is a time that the NT points to when Christ will return as I've already said, to execution his judgement on men, and to enter his saints into his Kingdom at the wedding feast, and others into the permanent outer darkness, as the dawn of the new heavens and new earth.

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Verse 4 predicts that the Mount of Olives would split in two from East and to the West. The Mount is actually literally split into two, from East to the West since that time, the time of Christ on the earth, and today.
I have been on the Mount of Olives.
In no way is it split in two, as prophesied, yet. The Kidron valley; between the MoO and the Temple Mount of Jerusalem, runs roughly North South.
Rabid preterism, such as you promote, leads to wild and foolish assertions.
 

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I have been on the Mount of Olives.
In no way is it split in two, as prophesied, yet. The Kidron valley; between the MoO and the Temple Mount of Jerusalem, runs roughly North South.
Rabid preterism, such as you promote, leads to wild and foolish assertions.

Have you looked at the Mt. of Olives from this perspective of this photo taken in the early 1890-1900, showing one major split down the middle and possibly another split down the right side of the Mountain they used for horse and foot paths.

The Mount of Olives was literally split in Two from East to West by a Roman Road present at least as Far back as the First Century.

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If you had actually stood on some part of the mountain top, you really could not possibly see a distinct wide split that occurred some 2200 years ago. Were you really looking for one?

You should have seen this major depression as in this picture though, in your vision. It is quite obvious some sort of geological phenomena causes the 'sag.'
 
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Why do you any other want to believe that Christ will return with a grand finale and a display of some physical superiority that will literally shake the earth? It is best to keep these imaginations in books and movies.
Christ is King today and rules with peace and righteousness, and his judgement is being made everyday as an 'iron-rod' with no waivers or double standards on this earth until his Father tells him to execute this judgment. And not with more violence and prowess as a sinful boastful proud man. We've had enough of these men already and there will be a few more until that glorious 'day' of the Lord arrives.

Just noticing this thread.

About the above, the Old Testament God made a number of displays of His power; ones which could likewise be portrayed as "violent, boastful and proud" depending on whose side you were on. So I guess my question would be: Was the Old Testament God - the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ - merely displaying physical superiority when He manifested His power in the great supernatural acts of the Old Testament, or was their a higher purpose to His doing so than simply displaying His prowess?
 

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Here’s the secret: The gospel of grace has made you, non-Jewish believers, into coheirs of his promise through your union with him. And you have now become members of his body—one with the Anointed One
One thing . . . you will have a difficult time convincing me of anything based on "the passion translation". It's not a translation, it's a commentary.

Much love!
 
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From another source...more interesting information

EZEKIEL’S TEMPLE AND JOHN’S HEAVENLY CITY COMPARED.

Compare if you will, the striking correspondences between what Ezekiel and the Apostle John were each shown while in the Spirit.

Ezekiel saw a high mountain: Ezek. 40:1, 2. John saw a high mountain: Rev. 21:10.

Ezekiel said there was glory abiding: 43:2-5. 47:1-12. John saw Glory – with no night there (The Lamb is its Light). Rev 21:11,25. 22:5.

Ezekiel saw water flowing from the Temple: 47:1 John saw a pure river flowing from the Throne: 22:1

Ezekiel saw trees had healing properties: 47:12. John saw the trees were for the healing of the nations (ie., gentiles): 22:2.

Ezekiel said the trees bore fruit monthly: 48:20, 35. John also said the trees bore fruit monthly: 22:2.

Ezekiel described the Holy City in four-square dimensions: 48:30 John described the Holy City in Cubic dimensions: 21:16

Ezekiel said the city had 12 gates: 48:35. John said the city had 12 gates: 21:12, 21.

Ezekiel gave the name of its God as ‘Jehovah Shammah’ (is present) 43:7. John described it as being God tabernacling with men. 21:3. (John 1:14)

Ezekiel said the city was for the 12 tribes: 43:4-7. 48:1. John said the city was for the (pan-ethnic) saints of God. 21:24-27.

Are these striking correspondences not significant? Even more amazingly John’s Holy City was a BRIDE!

Rev 21:1-3. “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. (Note time location) also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.”

In fact John’s whole revelation of the Holy City was prefaced by the angel saying to him; “Come, I will show you The Bride, the Lamb's wife” Rev. 21:9.

Paul said to the Gentile Corinthian saints; “I have betrothed you to one husband that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” And to the Ephesians’ saints; “Just as Christ also loved the church, and gave Himself for her.”

Are we able to say then that the vision Ezekiel and John were shown, was of the BRIDE, in the New Heaven and New Earth, joined in glory to the LAMB, her HUSBAND, CHRIST.

It is of note that John’s City HAD NO TEMPLE. This fact is most remarkable to a JEW. The Temple of this City is a PERSON! The Church’s SPOUSE!

Rev 21:22-24. “But I saw NO temple in it, - for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB is its Temple. The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it, the LAMB is its light. And the nations (ethnos) of those who are saved, shall walk in its (His!) light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honour into it.”

Surely both Ezekiel and John had the same vision, but each from their position in the progressive revelatory program of God, and thus John, more fully than Ezekiel. This shows clearly the error of attempting to interpret the Old Testament without reference to the fuller light of the New Testament, thereby wrongly applying a literalness which occasions denial of the New Testament’s greater light, and so the applying of Ezekiel’s vision to the wrong nation under God, OT Israel, instead of to the pan-ethnic ‘holy nation’ of the Gospel-redeemed saints.

source: www.kingdomline.com
That's correct, Ezekiel chapters 47-48 represents the eternal kingdom in the new heaven and earth, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many claim

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
 
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You really need to calm down and provide scripture Enoch for your statements. This is meant to be a civil and calm exchange of ideas. You are reaching for straws here. Stay in focus of the discussion and with the appropriate scripture being discussed or challenged.

As I read through this, what I take to be describing what the passages say, you take to mean other things, so we won't have much commonality of thinking.

When Jesus is seen by everyone as He returns in power and great glory, first to regather Israel to their promised land, and then to gather the gentiles to be judged, I think that's exactly what He will do. And in the process, Jesus will stand on the Mount of Olives, and it will split in two, and the Jews will flee through that valley . . . think, Red Sea. The winepress of God's wrath. The blood will flow out like a river!

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Have you looked at the Mt. of Olives from this perspective of this photo taken in the early 1890-1900, showing one major split down the middle and possibly another split down the right side of the Mountain they used for horse and foot paths.

The Mount of Olives was literally split in Two from East to West by a Roman Road present at least as Far back as the First Century.

Mount-of-Olives-and-Gethsemane.-1890-1900.-Photochrome-Print.jpg


If you had actually stood on some part of the mountain top, you really could not possibly see a distinct wide split that occurred some 2200 years ago. Were you really looking for one?

You should have seen this major depression as in this picture though, in your vision. It is quite obvious some sort of geological phenomena causes the 'sag.'
What are you suggesting, the prophecy in Zechariah 14 has been fulfilled?
 

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As I read through this, what I take to be describing what the passages say, you take to mean other things, so we won't have much commonality of thinking.

When Jesus is seen by everyone as He returns in power and great glory, first to regather Israel to their promised land, and then to gather the gentiles to be judged, I think that's exactly what He will do. And in the process, Jesus will stand on the Mount of Olives, and it will split in two, and the Jews will flee through that valley . . . think, Red Sea. The winepress of God's wrath. The blood will flow out like a river!

Much love!
Jews get to go to the promised land, and everybody else gets judged?

Sounds like Zionist dual covenant theology to me, as Gods no respector of person
 
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As I read through this, what I take to be describing what the passages say, you take to mean other things, so we won't have much commonality of thinking.

When Jesus is seen by everyone as He returns in power and great glory, first to regather Israel to their promised land, and then to gather the gentiles to be judged, I think that's exactly what He will do. And in the process, Jesus will stand on the Mount of Olives, and it will split in two, and the Jews will flee through that valley . . . think, Red Sea. The winepress of God's wrath. The blood will flow out like a river!

Much love!

Heavy spiritualization.

It was dawning on me in glancing at the first few pages myself that a large percentage of the people on this forum tend to spiritualize much of scripture, to their own detriment. It runs a close parallel with spiritualizing away Christ even having come in the flesh. I don't think the enemy of our souls likes anything that suggests God will manifest Himself literally in the earth, whether through a man or on behalf of a nation. He would prefer if it were all spiritualized away so that it can be mythologized, and then divorced from reality altogether and done away with. But in the end it cannot be and will not be.
 
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Heavy spiritualization.

It was dawning on me in glancing at the first few pages myself that a large percentage of the people on this forum tend to spiritualize much of scripture, to their own detriment. It runs a close parallel with spiritualizing away Christ even having come in the flesh. I don't think the enemy of our souls likes anything that suggests God will manifest Himself literally in the earth, whether through a man or on behalf of a nation. He would prefer if it were all spiritualized away so that it can be mythologized, and then divorced from reality altogether and done away with. But in the end it cannot be and will not be.
Heavy Spiritualizatiom applies to the Preterist eschatology, if it dosent fit 70AD fulfillment, they remove it through symbolic allegory
 
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Just noticing this thread.

About the above, the Old Testament God made a number of displays of His power; ones which could likewise be portrayed as "violent, boastful and proud" depending on whose side you were on. So I guess my question would be: Was the Old Testament God - the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ - merely displaying physical superiority when He manifested His power in the great supernatural acts of the Old Testament, or was their a higher purpose to His doing so than simply displaying His prowess?
Well it depends on what you mean and then what I meant. I suspect I know 'where you are going.' When God used armies to invade and conquer others he illustrated this literal power and prowess as future warnings of impending doom in the language of the Hebrew writers and usually in their own symbolic metaphoric language and not words to mean his direct literal involvement. God does uses his messengers, and other special people to provide warnings of his disgust and to do his bidding, besides armies. And yes, natural calamities at times as in the Flood, plagues and even earthquakes etc.
 

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Heavy Spiritualizatiom applies to the Preterist eschatology, if it dosent fit 70AD fulfillment, they remove it through symbolic allegory
Not all in the 66-70AD. Much before that time, and some in the future.
 
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Israel........end thread/
The promised land of inheritance will be seen in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, as seen in Ezekiel chapters 47-48, the "Eternal Kingdom"

Ezekiel 48:29-35KJV

29 This is the land which ye shall divide by lot unto the tribes of Israel for inheritance, and these are their portions, saith the Lord God. 30 And these are the goings out of the city on the north side, four thousand and five hundred measures. 31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi. 32 And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan. 33 And at the south side four thousand and five hundred measures: and three gates; one gate of Simeon, one gate of Issachar, one gate of Zebulun. 34 At the west side four thousand and five hundred, with their three gates; one gate of Gad, one gate of Asher, one gate of Naphtali. 35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there.

Revelation 21:10-13KJV

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
 

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Jews get to go to the promised land, and everybody else gets judged?

Sounds like Zionist dual covenant theology to me, as Gods no respecter of person
Not understanding the Pre Trib Rapture does mix one up.

You see, ALL of those dead in Christ arise as do those living in Christ in 1 Cor 15:50-52. Then we go to Heaven, marry the Lamb and are seen returning in Rev. 19 with Jesus who then defeats the Beast and his minions. Then in Rev. 20:4 we are told SPECICALLY that only those who refuse the Mark of the Beast and become Martyrs are allowed to live and reign with Christ 1000 years on this earth, (even though we have clueless people who deny this reign).

So, its NOT ONLY the Jews, the rest of the Church go back to Heaven, except those who died during the 70th week, they will rule on this earth with Christ in Glorious bodies (after being raised and judged). Thus who were the only ones the Anti-Christ did not kill? The Jews whom Gid protected, why is this so hard to grasp? Because you live in a wrongheaded symposium on the timing of the rapture. And the sad part it its not even that hard to understand.