USA going to war over Ukraine with Russia
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Oceanprayers
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Ironic isn't it.
What I'd like to know is, where are all the white supremacists and neo-nazis at?
Their Homeland is being invaded by people they stereotype, refer to using the lowest racist epithets, and not a peep.
Why aren't they forming a militia and standing a post on the southern Texas border?
Not a peep.
And posting screeds on Storefront forum and Christogenea forum doesn't count.
You'd think this climate would get that bunch to act. But not a peep.
quietthinker
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yeah, and arm chair critics will know more than governments even on Christian forums.
Ziggy
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Hypnotized..
I don't watch tv. I don't have a cellphone or an I pad or any of the new techy stuff.
I have the internet which I mostly hang out here and watch a rally when they come to town.
I may browse for certain topics and listen to different views. Even watch 4 months of so-called peaceful protests to get an understanding of what's happening in the world.
In other words.. I have a mind of my own. God gave me it.
Trump was going to be destroyed either way.
If he had gone against the narrative they would have had him removed for negligence against a pandemic.
He put Fauci on center stage because he knew.. he knew that he would pay the price later. And he will.
But for the time he had remaining he had two choices. Cause more panic by seeming to do nothing, or quell panic by doing whatever he could.
He did what he did for our sake. Even if it meant destroying the economy.
It was inevitable what we are facing now and have been the last 3 years.
Nothing can stop what is coming, means so much more than what we believed in the beginning.
And it's not over.
People are literally brainwashed. Some are irredeamable. They drank the koolaid a long time ago.
There is a verse in the bible about the depths of Satan...
Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
A great delusion...
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Trust the "science" ......
Timothy, guard what God has entrusted to you. Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so-called knowledge.
1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
assymptomatic spread:
shifting sands:
Luk 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
Luk 6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
Luk 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
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McFearless
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Then all countries are communist/socialist.
Any government prints money, printing money creates inflation, which devalues other people’s money and put new money in the governments own hands. You are really just against a society using currency, you want to go back to the time when we dealt in natural resources?
The most capitalist society in the world is actually communist according to your definition.
Jesus told you to use Bitcoin instead
Jesus already told us not to bitch about communism or tax collection - he was pretty indifferent to socialism in Israel. You also said that communism is fairly new, but it is not, not with your definition. Then communism is as old as the monetary system. Maybe older if you also consider it communist/socialist if the government is in charge of the natural resources too because even that was taxed.
Then all kings in Europe was communist and the only way to get rid of communism is through anarchy, which I guess you propose?
Americans have truly been brainwashed with that nonsensical Cold War propaganda. You were taught to hate your enemy, and you opted to do that, instead of following the good Lords advice. That’s why Americans don’t know what they hate, it’s just some words you guys throw around communism, socialism, capitalism etc. but you only know the definitions through the propaganda material, that’s why it’s so incredibly hard to debate you guys.
I also don’t understand why a capitalist society is a good thing, it’s just a proof that money is society’s real god.
I don’t think Jesus care about ideology, to him there is his way or the wrong way. He’d never defend communism, capitalism, socialism. He is the creator of the world and of Christianity. All ideologies fall short and fail, only true Christianity will prevail. Don’t get fooled into playing that game, it will only remove your focus from Jesus.
Hate is the worst ideology and that ideology is simply the most common in America.
Ferris Bueller
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I think the end-times beast system is socialism, eventually communism, because of these passages:
The end time system will not be a free market system. Trade will be controlled and restricted by the beast in accordance with it's approval to participate in it:
"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16-17
The end time beast system will destroy the capitalistic system of trade:
"The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire." Revelation 17:16-17
"The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more—cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linens, purple, silk and scarlet cloth..." Revelation 18:11-12
"The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more—cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linens, purple, silk and scarlet cloth..." Revelation 18:11-12
Ferris Bueller
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I want to go back to a system where real money represents the stable value of marketable natural resources. Fiat currency is the invention of greedy bankers.
Ferris Bueller
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No, because free trade is not restricted in capitalism. It's being manipulated, but it is not restricted.
Ferris Bueller
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But the Bible does not justify the abuse of either, a political/economic system, or tax collection.
Ferris Bueller
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Bitcoin is not real money. The nature of it is clouded, but it looks like it's nothing more than another fiat currency.Jesus told you to use Bitcoin instead
Ferris Bueller
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Ferris Bueller
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Yes, it is. It's less than 200 years old. The beast that it is rose up in response to the abuse of workers in the industrial revolution. It seems to have suffered a fatal wound and failed, as even you acknowledge, but despite it's fatal wound it lives and people like you are looking to it in awe. And when the world sees it's successful military conquests you and many others will say, “Who is like the beast, and who can wage war against it?”, and many will take the mark in order to receive from the beast that which we used to receive by freely trading with one another without interference. The problem being, you'll have to offer your ideological obedience to the beast in exchange for life's essentials, and that ideology does not include Christianity.
Ferris Bueller
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Ferris Bueller
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We are brainwashed, but not in the way you think. I don't remember if I posted this particular video, too, of an actual person responsible for Russian propaganda telling us how it works in the United States:
Every American who watches this video will understand exactly what happened to our country. Socialist ideology has wormed it's way deep into every part of our society. The key was capturing a generation of young people. Mission complete.
Ferris Bueller
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Because it rewards honest effort without unfair hindrance.
Only if you let it be your God. The commands of God show us money is not by definition a god unless you let it be a god. Money in and of itself is not evil. The love of money is.
Capitalism in the hands of godly people is fair and works very well. But there is no fair and good version of communism and socialism. It's unfair by design. It's a system built on the envy and hatred of people who are richer than you. There's nothing evil about having a more valuable and marketable skill than someone else. It is evil to envy that person, though. And, of course, it's evil to do evil things with wealth.
Ferris Bueller
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You're very wrong. The law instructs us to trade fairly - that's capitalism. God never commands us to take away from those who have and give it to those who don't. In regard to the welfare of others God commands willful giving, not giving under force of compulsion. Socialism is literally a system of the forced distribution of honest wealth to other people. Communism is a system where you're not even given the chance to have wealth to be taken from you and given to other people.
Ferris Bueller
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Christians are to hate that which is evil. The politics and economics of envy is evil. Honest free trade is not evil.
Ferris Bueller
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What you hate about the free world is not free trade and business. What you hate, but don't recognize, is BIG business. So do we. The evil in the world today is the monopolization of money and goods, and the governments who protect that monopolization politically and militarily. You don't fix that by getting rid of free trade and putting the monopolization into the hands of a few elite in a socialist/communist system. You fix that by not allowing unfair and evil monopolization, not by not allowing or unfairly restricting free trade! The elite who push the socialistic/communistic way of dealing with unfair trade are just making it so they are the one's doing the monopolizing. And they pawn that off to the masses as the right and fair and just thing to do. They can disguise it that way because it appeals to people's propensity to envy and hate those who have more than they do.
You are so utterly clueless about the world in which we live, that it is not only sad but shocking. But not surprising.
Actually it is Western Europeans (not Eastern Europeans) who have been utterly brainwashed by their feckless and incompetent political leaders. Western Europe stands for nothing. If Vladimir Putin were to trample all over Western Europe and establish his rule, Western Europeans would do absolutely nothing. So let's talk about the Cold War and its aftermath.
1. Were Churchill and Roosevelt wicked to hand over East Germany and Eastern Europe to Stalin at the Yalta Conference? Absolutely. They had no business jeopardizing the lives and freedoms of millions.
2. Did Churchill declare that an Iron Curtain had been created in Eastern Europe within a year of that foolish pact, and that the Cold War was now a cold reality? Absolutely.
3. Did Churchill warn of Soviet "expansionism" at that time? Absolutely
4. Was Joseph Stalin a tyrannical Communist throughout his regime and killed millions of innocents? Absolutely
5. Was Russian aggression a fact of life for decades (the most recent being the annexation of Crimea and Don Bas)? Absolutely See Crimea: Six years after illegal annexation. Crimea: Six years after illegal annexation
Do you know anything about these historical facts, or did they never teach you European history in school?
And do you know that Communist Barack Obama* is controlling every move of Biden so that America becomes a Marxist/Communist/Racist/Anarchist third world country? Jen Psaki virtually admitted that Obama is in control the other day (through a Freudian slip), since Biden is a total incompetent.
*Obama’s Communist Mentor
“Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle,” Chapman wrote. “Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through.”
Obama’s Communist Mentor
Fauci did very evil things. A few years back, he forcibly injected young orphan children to test his aids drugs, and they all suffered and some died.
When the children refused being tested with his concoctions, he obtained court orders to force them to be taken, so they were restrained and given dangerous drugs. the AIDS vaccines he was working on all failed.
Flashback: Fauci’s NIH funded experiments on AIDS orphans in New York City
I have seen more articles with worse details, and now this information is being disputed and denied.
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