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Pearl

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How could you know an act of yours is sinful unless you had disobeyed God's word in Genesis 2:17 & chosen the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
We don't choose to have the 'knowledge of good & evil' It was Adam and Eve who chose to eat of that forbidden tree, thus separating them from God and bringing sin into the whole of mankind from that day forth. Until we choose Jesus through whom we are reconciled to God in new birth and our sin forgiven.
 

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1John3:21:"if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God". My heart condemns me not as Jesus has freed me from the moral law as per Romans7:6.
But your human nature is still your human nature.
 

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Joseph Prince?
OP ^

Heard of him? Yes

Ever heard his sermons? Yes

Ever seen a camera span on the very large ethnic Chinese congregation? Yes.

Ever read his books? No

Impressed with Anglican Bishop Paul Barker’s review critique? No

Impressed with the number of Chinese individuals thirsting to hear and learn “about Christ Jesus”? Yes.

Prince is a spin off Pentecostal non-demoninational charismatic preacher, which gives way to an indication of his preaching style and different methods of his preaching.

Personally, I have not heard his sermons direct his listening audience away from Christ Jesus, but rather to Christ Jesus.

No, I would not call him a false preacher.
No, I would not call him a perfect preacher.

Personally I am not attracted to charismatic preachers, but see them moreso as having the flare to grasp the attention of “babes”, wanting an “introduction” to Christ Jesus.

It’s the “fizzle” after the “introduction”, that does not impress me with charismatic preachers.


Glory to God,
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dont send him any money.

Financially supporting any preacher/church was designed to financially support the one who teaches you. It’s the individuals responsibility to verify in Scripture, what they are taught. Be satisfied with the verification, challenge the teacher, or stop listening to that teacher.

Not particularly a big secret, MOST people are lazy to follow through on the Scriptural VERIFICATION part of the equation.
Not particularly a big secret, MOST people will continue Hearing a particular preacher...
“IF THAT Listening PERSON” feels good about “THEMSELVES” after hearing a sermon.

IMO...Introducing a person TO CHIRST JESUS is great. The focus ON CHRIST JESUS is great. The focus on INDIVIDUALS “feeling good about themselves”...
Not impressed.
 
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Financially supporting any preacher/church was designed to financially support the one who teaches you. It’s the individuals responsibility to verify in Scripture, what they are taught. Be satisfied with the verification, challenge the teacher, or stop listening to that teacher.

Not particularly a big secret, MOST people are lazy to follow through on the Scriptural VERIFICATION part of the equation.
Not particularly a big secret, MOST people will continue Hearing a particular preacher...
“IF THAT Listening PERSON” feels good about “THEMSELVES” after hearing a sermon.

IMO...Introducing a person TO CHIRST JESUS is great. The focus ON CHRIST JESUS is great. The focus on INDIVIDUALS “feeling good about themselves”...
Not impressed.
@Taken There needs to be a Berean spirit of 'searching the Scriptures', as in Acts...
 
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Pearl

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Wasn't the nature of Eve not sinful till she chose the forbidden moral law?
She chose to eat the forbidden fruit - I don't know about choosing 'the forbidden moral law'
She didn't even know what the 'moral law' was. As i said before this is a term you keep using. And I don't know what you mean by it.
 
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She didn't chose to eat the forbidden fruit - I don't know about choosing 'the forbidden moral law'
She didn't even know what the 'moral law' was. As i said before this is a term you keep using. And I don't know what you mean by it.

I agree here Pearl, I do not understand where this thread is even going o_O
 
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Paul teaches that Jesus is a one time eternal Sacrifice.
You teach that He isn't.

You figure that out.

Try reading Hebrews 10:26-30,:there is no more sacrifice for sins for those who willfully sin, who were SANCTIFIED by the blood of the COVENANT , and insulted the spirit of GRACE.

Though they’d been sanctified, been under the blood of the covenant, and received grace, the sacrifice of Jesus stops being applied to them as long as they are willfully sinning.

Heb 10:26 For if we choose to go on sinning after we have learned the full truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27 but only a terrifying prospect of judgment and a raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

Heb 10:28 Anyone who violates the Law of Moses dies without mercy "on the testimony of two or three witnesses."

Heb 10:29 How much more severe a punishment do you think that person deserves who tramples on God's Son, treats as common the blood of the covenant by which it was sanctified, and insults the Spirit of grace?

Heb 10:30 For we know the one who said, "Vengeance belongs to me; I will pay them back," and again, "The Lord will judge his people."

Heb 10:31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God!

Try reading all the Bible, not just your proof texts.
 

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Don't babies don't have the knowledge of good & evil as per Deuteronomy 1:39? Don't they grow up to know it? Doesn't the knowledge of good & evil come through the moral law (Romans3:20)?
You seem to be obsessing about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The truth of the matter is that because of Adam's disobedience, all human beings are under the Law of Sin and Death. The sin nature has been inherited from Adam. And the Law is BOTH moral and spiritual, but you are solely focused on what you call "the moral law".
 

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No, I would not call him a false preacher.
No, I would not call him a perfect preacher.
Kindly dig a little deeper into Hyper Grace preachers. They are preaching a FALSE gospel.
 

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Was it morally righteous to stay unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Your question sounds a little prudish. If there are only two people around and they are husband and wife and if God made them naked in the first place then there is nothing sinful about it. I am often naked in 'God's Holy presence' like when I shower, or get ready for bed but God knows what I look like and I am not ashamed. Nor was Eve.
 
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Kindly dig a little deeper into Hyper Grace preachers. They are preaching a FALSE gospel.

I am not favorable to “feel good about oneself” preachers, finding them rather shallow on the Big Picture of Gods teaching.

Do they Preach what is FALSE? I Haven’t seen that, but then I don’t stick around long enough to conclude that, already rejecting their methodology, of impressing the individuals “feel good” mantra.

I have heard things from some preachers, (not particularly Joseph Prince), things like “get Rich with Jesus”, expressly focused on “monetary” richness.
Which is hokey, not at all a spiritual teaching...

I’m not particularly interested in using my time to did into that which is not beneficial to me.... Curious about some examples of what you mean, “hyper Grace”...and the negativity result thereof.

Thanks,
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Your question sounds a little prudish. If there are only two people around and they are husband and wife and if God made them naked in the first place then there is nothing sinful about it. I am often naked in 'God's Holy presence' like when I shower, or get ready for bed but God knows what I look like and I am not ashamed. Nor was Eve.
We are all naked before God, best to get used to it. No secrets, no "hidden things of the heart", every secret known. But I wouldn't have it any other way!

Much love!
 
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So will babies enter hell if they die? Don't you think because they do not have the knowledge of good & evil, they will not enter hell?
Since babies and little children can neither understand nor obey the Gospel, they will be saved by the grace of God and the finished work of Christ.
 
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